Richard
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Post by Richard on Oct 28, 2007 18:56:08 GMT
Hi can someone please let me know Pete Sainsburys telephone number, the one I have is incorrect and the one on the fixtures is incorrect.
Thanks
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Post by Richard on Oct 28, 2007 19:06:52 GMT
Found it.
The last digit on the fixture sheet for Pete should be an 8 not a 5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 19:35:09 GMT
Anyone got an alternative contact number for John Slee or anyone in the Horsham Interleague side ?
We (Redhill) are on standby to play next Sunday but our captain hasn't heard a thing (it being their home fixture) and has tried to phone Sleezy on the number shown on the sheet SEVEN times, with no luck.
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Post by Sparky on Oct 28, 2007 19:53:08 GMT
Tommo I have sent you PM with a alternative number for John.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 20:03:14 GMT
Thanks, Sparky. Bless 'is 'eart, but I'm sure that every other team are going to have similar trouble. It would have been better for John Miller or Dick Cable to have been the contact. Come to think of it, I've got a number for Dick which we could try should Colin not be able to contact Sleezy at work tomorrow.
tommo
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 20:26:13 GMT
Peed off. >:( Despite all the efforts to establish contact, Colin Robbins has now phoned round our (Redhill A) team to take us off standby for Sunday. Colin has not heard from Horsham nor has been able to get any sense out of the numbers given. It is Horsham's place to invite us over as guests on their chosen venue and evening. I now have three postponed fixtures - one in each league and one at Interleague. Peed off. >:(
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Post by Sparky on Nov 2, 2007 20:56:22 GMT
Tommo I have sent you PM, basically I rang John who will ring you back. Sparky
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 21:20:23 GMT
Yeah thanks Sparky,
I would firstly point out that I am NOT the Interleague contact, I am just a player.
But John did ring me, and confirmed what we thought - that he has been struggling to raise a full team of players.
I have now given him Robbo's mobile number and he will ring him now to clue him in finally on what is going on.
We hope that the Interleague Secretary will sanction a postponement as we neither want to claim the match nor play a side with players short.
And the last thing anyone wants to see is a team drop out.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 2, 2007 21:27:25 GMT
Tommo As you know from my PM I am well aware that you are not the correct person for contact but it seemed to be the best thing to do in the circumstances ( if I didn't do it then, it wouldn't get done) and I sincerely apologize if I did wrong. Sparky
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Post by davejones on Nov 2, 2007 21:27:56 GMT
I will sanction a postponement, but please remember to re-arrange this match before the end of the season please.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 21:40:31 GMT
No problem Sparky, you and I go-betweens both. ;) We will try to chivvy things along a bit in our own way and to this end the Forum is a great tool. But ultimately I don't want the blame if things go wrong - different story if I happened to be the captain.
Thanks Dave for agreeing to the postponement requested by both captains. I will now openly repeat part of my PM to you which explains some of the problems.
Indeed, speaking to Sleezy just now, the loss of last year's captain (Brian Coomber); Gareth and Ricky (playing for Brighton) - coupled with the reluctance to play of Micky Fairs and John Miller are considerable body blows. Kevin Hall was all set to join Horsham, but his mum (Lorraine) was stuck for a full side and pullled him back.
Some restorative surgery to the Horsham squad will obviously be necessary. I hope that John can call a few favours in - but we're talking about John here, and he owes favours all over the place rather than the other way round ! ;)
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Post by Sparky on Nov 2, 2007 22:03:32 GMT
That's good Tommo :D
Let's hope that things get sorted out, but even as League Chairman I have to leave it to the captain to organise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 22:29:09 GMT
It may not be my position to say so, but when I was Horsham A captain (I had two separate three-year stints in the job), selection of the squad of players for the year was performed by the Committee at the start of the season: I then had only to organise a team for the night from the material I had been given.
From the writeups I see each week, Horsham has a good enough selection of players of the required class, and John may need a few pointers to ensure that some of these players get their long-awaited chance - rather than just give up with the result of the team dropping out.
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Post by iang on Nov 3, 2007 10:46:39 GMT
From the writeups I see each week, Horsham has a good enough selection of players of the required class, and John may need a few pointers to ensure that some of these players get their long-awaited chance - rather than just give up with the result of the team dropping out. We have discussed this problem at committee & as you say there are some good players that could play but it's getting them to commit, as with the mixture of players who play in Horsham/Mid sussex is also equal to the players who play in Horsham/Billingshurst & have already signed up for Mid sussex or Billingshurst Interleague sides so Horsham are left without the quality of players available. As they are in div one you need div 1 players the only option would be to take a year out & reform maybe in Div 2, but the danger is that you would lose the players who currently play for the I/L team.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 3, 2007 17:54:41 GMT
It may not be my position to say so, but when I was Horsham A captain (I had two separate three-year stints in the job), selection of the squad of players for the year was performed by the Committee at the start of the season: I then had only to organise a team for the night from the material I had been given. Hi Tommo, Ian has already answered part of your post and wish to address the other part as it seems that things have changed as the committee no longer impose such constraints, indeed the captain has the entire list of players to choose from. That, one would argue, should make the job easier but unfortunately you cannot force people to play and, as Ian said, with so many of the better players already involved with other leagues or unwilling to give up their time it is not surprising that the others do not wish to turn out against opposition of the Div 1 quality. It is my hope that players can be found for this year but in any case we may have to accept the need to rebuild the Horsham Interleague team, but that will take time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2007 18:39:46 GMT
Fully aware of those points, Ian and Sparky, but don't you think Horsham deserves a top-flight team ? The once-mighty will indeed have fallen - considering it once had A, B, C and D teams (I have played for all four by the way :-[ :-[) and now you're considering it having what in effect would be one B team.
I had no objection, by the way, to serving under the constraints of the committee selecting the squad: The danger otherwise is to pick a team using the 'old pals act' and those more deserving of their chance could get overlooked.
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Post by Sparky on Nov 3, 2007 19:16:27 GMT
Tommo it was just the way you posted made it seem as though you were not aware, or were you just being a bit too devilish :o
You seem to be inviting us to complain about other leagues pinching our top players and I, for one, will not do that, or perhaps to complain at a lack of loyalty by those players and again I will not do that as the players concerned have made a choice of their own and would assume it to be for the improvement of their game.
It is regrettable that Horsham no longer have the strength in depth of former years but you know better than most why that is and also why it cannot easily be reversed.
I do not know why you chose to interpret our suppositions for the future as being for a 'B' team, it seems fairly obvious that 'if' we have to rebuild the team it will become a Div2, or even Div3 (along with both Mid-Sussex teams), before it can again be worthy of Div1 or are you again pulling on the tigers tail ?
I know you are annoyed by what has happened but please don't aggravate the situation :)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2007 19:46:04 GMT
No you've got me completely wrong there Graham.
I'm not trying to get Horsham to have a go at others for pinching players, this was offered in mitigation to John in his difficulties of getting a team together.
My motive is to facilitate continuance of Horsham's team if at all possible for this season's Interleague by suggesting that the net is widened.
Only trying to help, far from guilty of any of the crimes you are accusing me of !
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Post by Sparky on Nov 4, 2007 17:28:42 GMT
OK Clive but the net is already as wide as is possible, as every player in the league can be asked. At this stage we can only rely on John to assemble the best team he can but Ian and I have shown that this has already been discussed at Committee level which shows that we have taken it seriously for the longterm future.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2007 17:43:35 GMT
Pleased to hear it.
Just to add, though, to give you an insight into who is 'casting the net'.......
When tackled once (many years ago) as to what team he had assembled for the One-dayer taking place later that weekend, from the 'possibles' recommended by the committee his reply was "Well, I've got me and I've got Franksey"
;D ;D ;D ;D >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D
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