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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 11:14:06 GMT
It would deteat the object playing on 3 pin tables? Surely a few tables could be sourced in sudbury? It's Norwich's project and would be a logistical nightmare as Sudbury is in the next county and it's 48 miles away. You may as well ask to borrow the Wellingborough tables, 74 miles away. Either way there's the problem of gaining insurance on the goods whilst in transit - AEBBA have this covered, but the cost for a one-off might be prohibitive.
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Post by Colemanator on Nov 6, 2012 12:11:25 GMT
can't see 4 pin players from either wboro or sudbury being interested then, as the game shots would be totally different to what they are used to. ::)
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 6, 2012 16:04:35 GMT
can't see 4 pin players from either wboro or sudbury being interested then, as the game shots would be totally different to what they are used to. ::) This was the problem I was thinking about at the start. I went everywhere to try and source 8 4-Pin tables, there isn't anyone that have them for hire, just for sale on ebay or such like. I have just got off the phone to Paul from the Wellingborough League, they have no problem with using 3-Pin tables, i think we do need to use exactly the same type of tables, and if that is all we can do to get this Open going then that is probably what we'll have to do. In Norwich we have only got 2 4-Pin tables and 2 3-Pin tables, Wellingborough also have a mixed bag of tables too, when Sudbury get back to me, then I shall see what they have to say. Wellingborough have a meeting on the 3rd December so I shall know more details about their feedback then.
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Post by barbelman on Nov 6, 2012 16:13:55 GMT
Carl
How different is the game in actual play between the 4 pin (narrow) and 3 pin tables? Is it easier on one than the other and while the angles will always be different between the two, are there any shots that are impossible on one while being possible on the other?
Tony
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 6, 2012 16:21:14 GMT
It really isn't all that different to be absolutely honest, the break is at a slightly different angle, yes, but it takes no time to adjust, a couple of practice games before hand for everyone would sort that out.
Anyway, everyone would be in the same boat, as everyone has to play on the same tables so not really at any advantage of disadvantage. We would need to put a sticker over the 30 and 10 point scores though...
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 6, 2012 16:22:25 GMT
Carl are there any shots that are impossible on one while being possible on the other? Tony There are no impossible shots from one table to the other
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Post by BB Warrior on Nov 6, 2012 16:42:43 GMT
Carl are there any shots that are impossible on one while being possible on the other? Tony There are no impossible shots from one table to the other I have always found that very much depends on who is trying to play them..... :-[ ;D I think that this is proving to be a very interesting discussion about another format of the game (that I know very little about) and I wish Carl every success in getting this off the ground and running next year. 8-) Depending on the date of the competition, I would be interested in taking part.... ;)
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 6, 2012 16:51:31 GMT
Thanks for your supports BB, much appreciated. The date we are looking towards is the 23rd - 24th March 2013
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Nov 6, 2012 17:03:25 GMT
Thanks for your supports BB, much appreciated. The date we are looking towards is the 23rd - 24th March 2013 Might be useful to set a link to a video of some top notch 4 pin players in action, sure it would increase the interest regs cs
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Post by barbelman on Nov 6, 2012 17:08:42 GMT
Thanks for your supports BB, much appreciated. The date we are looking towards is the 23rd - 24th March 2013 I love Norfolk and Norwich - sounds good to me and as soon as it's firmed up datewise will see what we can do ;D There's at least one ex-star player in your area already.... ;D ;D Tony
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Post by Colemanator on Nov 6, 2012 17:18:37 GMT
There's at least one ex-star player in your area already.... ;D ;D ;D 8-)
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Post by Sparky on Nov 6, 2012 18:12:00 GMT
I am gutted as will be away over the proposed dates, and would have loved to go to this event...oh well maybe 2014 !
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 6, 2012 18:23:04 GMT
Thanks for your supports BB, much appreciated. The date we are looking towards is the 23rd - 24th March 2013 There's at least one ex-star player in your area already.... ;D ;D Tony Really? Who might that be?? :-/ :-D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 18:38:47 GMT
I love Norfolk and Norwich - sounds good to me and as soon as it's firmed up datewise will see what we can do ;D Tony We too. :D Thinking of booking up with a holiday village to make a weekend of it. Then if the Open is on the Sunday we'll spend the Saturday messing about on the Broads. 8-)
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Nov 6, 2012 18:54:48 GMT
I love Norfolk and Norwich - sounds good to me and as soon as it's firmed up datewise will see what we can do ;D Tony We too. :D Thinking of booking up with a holiday village to make a weekend of it. Then if the Open is on the Sunday we'll spend the Saturday messing about on the Broads. 8-) what about a boat on the broads havnt done that for 30 years or so 8-)
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Post by David.G on Nov 6, 2012 20:00:32 GMT
I have one question
If all four pegs cover the 100/200/50 holes. New spots would be required for the 3-pin tables.
Would the existing spots for the white pegs have to be removed?
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Post by Colemanator on Nov 6, 2012 20:25:52 GMT
I have one question If all four pegs cover the 100/200/50 holes. New spots would be required for the 3-pin tables. Would the existing spots for the white pegs have to be removed? Yes, i suppose, or left in place.
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Post by milko on Nov 7, 2012 5:59:28 GMT
I have one question If all four pegs cover the 100/200/50 holes. New spots would be required for the 3-pin tables. Would the existing spots for the white pegs have to be removed? ....and what about the red ball spot, will that be moved because I should imagine that it's further apart from the "D" on their tables ? If it's not moved then you can forget about having to call the "one up" unless some clever dick can consistently play the red ball in the 30 or 20 pocket (our numbers) with the cue ball coming off of the right or left cushion into the 200 hole. 8-) But thinking about it I suppose you could always play the break thin with left hand side to go round the back of the 50 pockets!
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Post by curtd on Nov 7, 2012 9:35:31 GMT
Hi
I have a question after seeing a clip of what looked like 4-pin bar billiards on u-tube.
How far in front of the holes are the pegs positioned ? On the clip they were a couple of inches in front of the holes.
Curt
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2012 10:46:43 GMT
you can forget about having to call the "one up" unless some clever dick can consistently play the red ball in the 30 or 20 pocket (our numbers) with the cue ball coming off of the right or left cushion into the 200 hole. 8-) But thinking about it I suppose you could always play the break thin with left hand side to go round the back of the 50 pockets! After some trade secrets Milko? :o I'll provide one: you can forget about the Oxford split ! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2012 10:54:20 GMT
Hi I have a question after seeing a clip of what looked like 4-pin bar billiards on u-tube. How far in front of the holes are the pegs positioned ? On the clip they were a couple of inches in front of the holes. Curt I would imagine they emulate the normal positioning of a black peg spot, so less than 1/4 inch.
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 7, 2012 15:48:08 GMT
I have one question If all four pegs cover the 100/200/50 holes. New spots would be required for the 3-pin tables. Would the existing spots for the white pegs have to be removed? That is a very good point!! One I didn't think about at all. I don't think it would be at all necessary to remove the spots for the white pegs on the 3-Pin tables, but it would be necessary to put new spots on the tables, these spots are of corse in front of the 50 point holes, measuring from the nearest edge to the baulk line of the 50 hole to the centre of the spot where the pin is placed is 1.5cm, I dont think it would be necessary to draw a complete circle around the peg, just 4 dots so we can place the peg correctly would be fine, I appreciate that these tables are used mainly for 3 pin events so I hope that would be ok to do that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2012 16:39:41 GMT
You shouldn't need to mark the cloths of the AEBBA set.........sheets of sticky spots are available from most stationery stores for around a pound which should cover the situation.
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Post by David.G on Nov 7, 2012 17:34:48 GMT
You shouldn't need to mark the cloths of the AEBBA set.........sheets of sticky spots are available from most stationery stores for around a pound which should cover the situation. Already sorted tommo :) Lots of white spots in my tub (Mainly used for Alternative Rules) :) ;)
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Nov 8, 2012 0:33:58 GMT
Hi I have a question after seeing a clip of what looked like 4-pin bar billiards on u-tube. How far in front of the holes are the pegs positioned ? On the clip they were a couple of inches in front of the holes. Curt I would imagine they emulate the normal positioning of a black peg spot, so less than 1/4 inch. Hi All Think i've found the link, looks like a fair gap here regs cs
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 14, 2012 12:51:51 GMT
Just a very quick update, we have now secured the venue for the Open on the weekend of 23rd and 24th March 2013. So it is now a firm date! We have a meeting next week Tuesday 20th Nov, i shall update further once i have more relevant info
Thanks Carl
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Post by Chris_Sav on Nov 14, 2012 18:11:16 GMT
Can we keep this thread on topic please, it's about the East Anglian 4-Pin OPEN 2013?
Sav
[edit] Previous off topic posts now appear to have been moved - Sav
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 12:13:33 GMT
Bumping this thread as I cant seem to find it by normal means ! - tommo [edit - ah ! I see it's now on a sub-board]
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Post by Carls421 on Nov 19, 2012 13:12:19 GMT
Now that we have a nailed on date and all plans for the go ahead of the Open are very nearly sorted. I have attached the Entry form to this post! If anyone that is interested could please fill it in and send it back to me asap. I would be very grateful. As with all other Opens, your entry will not count until the form has been returned and payment made. I shall make another thread and update the completed entries (Max 64 (32 Local, 32 other)) once they start coming in.
If you are going to any other competitions anywhere, please feel free to print off the form and display it around.
Many Thanks and look forward to the response
Carl
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Post by milhouse on Nov 19, 2012 13:21:16 GMT
Has it been decided if there is going to be a plate competition ?
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