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Post by milko on May 20, 2014 12:11:27 GMT
May I remind ALL County Secretaries to get ALL their teams that have entered (locally) for this competition in to the AEBBA Secretary (Dave Alder) by the end of August so that ALL players can be scrutinised. We wouldn't want the same scenario that happened in 2012, now would we!! Milko  |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 15:50:46 GMT
Hi All,
The eligible team from Northants is Rushden Conservative Club.
Their team consists of:
Chas Peel (Capt)
Damian Coates
Jason Neal
Andy Chambers
Trevor Eaton
Jim Smith
All of the above are regulars in their side and therefore play in the Northants League. There are no guests.
As with previous years Northants will endeavour to attend providing a full team is available. In the event that it is not possible to muster a team from those above it is likely that Northants will not be represented.
I will let Dave know whether Rushden will play a little closer to the event.
Hope this helps.
Lorin
Northants Secretary
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Post by magners on May 21, 2014 12:16:47 GMT
I can confirm that Surrey's representative will be the Merstham Village Club and the team will be made up of the players that played throughout the season using a guest player only if one of the squad cannot make it.
Our concern is the format. A couple of years ago we qualified and went to Reading. 2 groups of 4. One team in our group didn't show, which meant we only had 2 games each and in one case that player didn't have a break in either leg. A long day for 2 legs. Can it be formatted so that all pre-registered teams play each other, giving 5/6 games in a day?
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Post by Chris_Sav on May 21, 2014 13:58:12 GMT
May I remind ALL County Secretaries to get ALL their teams that have entered (locally) for this competition in to the AEBBA Secretary (Dave Alder) by the end of August so that ALL players can be scrutinised. We wouldn't want the same scenario that happened in 2012, now would we!! Milko Milko is correct that all teams that have competed within each county should be submitted to the AEBBA sec for scrutineering, not just the reps. |
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Post by BB Warrior on May 21, 2014 14:45:53 GMT
May I remind ALL County Secretaries to get ALL their teams that have entered (locally) for this competition in to the AEBBA Secretary (Dave Alder) by the end of August so that ALL players can be scrutinised. We wouldn't want the same scenario that happened in 2012, now would we!! Milko Milko is correct that all teams that have competed within each county should be submitted to the AEBBA sec for scrutineering, not just the reps. Not wishing to be controversial here.... but wouldn't it be much easier for County Secretaries (or Competition Secretaries) to be made responsible for the eligibility of players within their own counties as they would probably know far more than AEBBA Secretary about the people that play within their Leagues?  Obviously if there was a problem (such as the Oxon situation) then this could be referred to AEBBA for a decision? It would simply seem to make more sense to do this to me and I am sure it would save AEBBA Secretary a lot of work as well.  |
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Post by milko on May 21, 2014 15:59:30 GMT
Fair point, Dave.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 16:17:24 GMT
Well in that case - as far as I am aware none of the Rushden players play in any other league outside of Northants (no surprise there!) and they play all their county/Inter Area matches (if selected) for Northants.
If further scrutiny is required may I suggest contacting the new owners of eBay customer data as that will give you:
Name
DoB
Address
Telephone number
email address.
That is good enough to steal most people's identity but if you wanted to go one step further and say target products and services (or more likely price or withdraw products and services) based on profiling you could add the data recently sold by our government which includes:
Address
Phone number
Gender
NI number
....to the eBay data and really go to town!
The lengths one goes to these days to ensure competition eligibility is maintained!! ;-)
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Post by Chris_Sav on May 21, 2014 17:25:32 GMT
LOL Lorin!!
Dave basic scrutineering should be by the county secretaries but the one county one year rule is over-ridden in this comp so the AEBBA sec should check cross county for multiple registrations. |
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Post by Pete S on May 21, 2014 21:23:02 GMT
Milko is correct that all teams that have competed within each county should be submitted to the AEBBA sec for scrutineering, not just the reps. Not wishing to be controversial here.... but wouldn't it be much easier for County Secretaries (or Competition Secretaries) to be made responsible for the eligibility of players within their own counties as they would probably know far more than AEBBA Secretary about the people that play within their Leagues? Obviously if there was a problem (such as the Oxon situation) then this could be referred to AEBBA for a decision? It would simply seem to make more sense to do this to me and I am sure it would save AEBBA Secretary a lot of work as well. All Please note that we require details of the teams, representatives and the details of how the team will qualify. We do not want a situation as happened recently where a player from the winning team played for 2 teams during the qualifying for the finals of the competition. Thanks |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 21:31:48 GMT
Oh, missed the last detail. So for the sake of completeness:
Team: Rushden Conservative Club
Team members: Chas Peel, Damian Coates, Jason Neal, Andy Chambers, Trevor Eaton, Jim Smith
Eligibility: Northants Team KO Winners 2013/14
I really do hope this clarifies everything satisfactorily.
Lorin
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Post by BB Warrior on May 21, 2014 22:22:19 GMT
LOL Lorin!!
Dave basic scrutineering should be by the county secretaries but the one county one year rule is over-ridden in this comp so the AEBBA sec should check cross county for multiple registrations. Okay, I have informed the Sussex Competition Secretary (Tony Jenner) that he needs to send the information to Dave A.  |
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Post by milhouse on May 22, 2014 0:48:22 GMT
Not wishing to be controversial here.... but wouldn't it be much easier for County Secretaries (or Competition Secretaries) to be made responsible for the eligibility of players within their own counties as they would probably know far more than AEBBA Secretary about the people that play within their Leagues? Obviously if there was a problem (such as the Oxon situation) then this could be referred to AEBBA for a decision? It would simply seem to make more sense to do this to me and I am sure it would save AEBBA Secretary a lot of work as well. All Please note that we require details of the teams, representatives and the details of how the team will qualify. We do not want a situation as happened recently where a player from the winning team played for 2 teams during the qualifying for the finals of the competition. Thanks Pete, As Oxon county secretary, i have emailed yourself and others to get a ruling on eligibilty. If you wish to discuss further, please give me a call. Regards Mark |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 7:57:18 GMT
Hi,
Unfortunately the eligible team from Northants (Rushden Conservative Club) are not available to attend this event and therefore Northants will not be represented at this event.
Please contact me if you need anything further regarding this.
Best wishes,
Lorin
Northants Secretary
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Post by milhouse on Sept 12, 2014 10:50:28 GMT
Hi, Unfortunately the eligible team from Northants (Rushden Conservative Club) are not available to attend this event and therefore Northants will not be represented at this event. Please contact me if you need anything further regarding this. Best wishes, Lorin Northants Secretary Are the runners-up not available to play? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 12:56:31 GMT
Hi Mark,
My understanding is that doing this would actually render the team ineligible for the competition - even though this may have been overlooked in the past.
Given that this year, more than perhaps the previous few, teams meeting the eligibility criteria is being scrutinised - quite understandably - I wouldn't want to make that even mirkier by submitting a team that did not win the county competition which would make them eligible. If that makes sense.
I would far rather Northants stick to the rules we are beyond criticism then.
Thanks,
Lorin
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Post by magners on Sept 19, 2014 17:43:19 GMT
Any news on this years format for the team championship yet?
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Post by Chris on Sept 28, 2014 8:47:38 GMT
Dave
The Hampshire Team is the LHFA Club.
Barry Radford
Lee Radford
Tony Woolvin
Richard House
Fred Large
Barry Saunders
Reg Mannell
Daniel woolvin
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Post by dipper on Sept 28, 2014 12:03:42 GMT
Good to see Reg Mannell back, and playing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 21:44:28 GMT
Further to clarifications and assurances received by various AEBBA Committee members I am delighted to say that Northants will be sending a fully eligible team.
It is the The Fox, Thrapston and will consist of the following players:
Curt Driver (Capt)
Keith Sheard
Kevin Tunstall
Phil Collins
Paul Sainsbury
Hope that clarifies!
Some of the above have been a little non-committal on their firm availability and so we have arranged for our reserve team of:
Simon Coleman (Capt)
Stephen Coleman
Ian Jellis
Damian Coates
Lorin Clough
...to be available just in case!
Cheers!
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Post by Chris on Oct 1, 2014 22:31:18 GMT
Further to clarifications and assurances received by various AEBBA Committee members I am delighted to say that Northants will be sending a fully eligible team. It is the The Fox, Thrapston and will consist of the following players: Curt Driver (Capt) Keith Sheard Kevin Tunstall Phil Collins Paul Sainsbury Hope that clarifies! Some of the above have been a little non-committal on their firm availability and so we have arranged for our reserve team of: Simon Coleman (Capt) Stephen Coleman Ian Jellis Damian Coates Lorin Clough ...to be available just in case! Cheers! Clearly the reserves are the favourites in this event   |
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Post by Chris on Oct 1, 2014 22:36:46 GMT
Not sure I am 'various' more secular Lorin |
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Post by David.G on Oct 2, 2014 21:43:00 GMT
Berks Team is Caversham WMC
Bernie McCluskey
Paul Sainsbury
Keith Lewendon
Terry Vallis
Terry Alder
Dave Alder
Mick Shephard
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Post by SirKT on Oct 3, 2014 3:49:06 GMT
Sussex champs are the White Hart
Kevin Tunstall
Martin Cole
Jim Greensted
Gerry Fitzjohn
Alan Messer
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Post by triplex on Oct 16, 2014 14:29:00 GMT
Unfortunately due to unforeseen work commitments The Fox will no longer be able to field a team.
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Post by BB Warrior on Oct 18, 2014 10:34:59 GMT
Any news on this years format for the team championship yet? I understand that the Surrey team will not be there now tomorrow, I believe that Nigel has been informed and that will hopefully give him a chance to amend the format for the competition.  |
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Post by jordans on Oct 18, 2014 11:29:58 GMT
The Bucks team will be there (Totteridge Community Centre). Sent the team details to Dave via PM a while ago.
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Post by NigelS on Oct 18, 2014 12:06:42 GMT
I understand that the Surrey team will not be there now tomorrow, I believe that Nigel has been informed and that will hopefully give him a chance to amend the format for the competition. Yes I have been informed of this. So I will be working on a format for 6 teams - Hants, Berks, Sussex, Bucks, Kent, Oxon and 7 ladies. Nige |
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Post by BB Warrior on Oct 20, 2014 9:27:05 GMT
Congratulations to the White Hart (Littlehampton, Sussex) for their victory yesterday, winning all 5 of their games to finish on 17 points including a 3-2 win over nearest rivals Caversham WMC (Berkshire) in the final series who were runners-up on 15 points. Langstone Harbour Fishermans Club (Hants) were third with 3 wins and 13 points just ahead of The White Hart (Rusthall, Kent) on 11 points, Berinsfield (Oxon) on 10 points and Totteridge Community Centre (Bucks) who had 2 wins and 9 points in a closely fought competition. Bernie McCluskey (Caversham) was the only unbeaten player on the day and Paul Sainsbury (Caversham) won the High Break Award with 17,830. Many thanks to Dave Alder for organising the day and setting up the tables with the help of Phil Hawkins, Nigel Senior for the format for the competition, Ron & Eileen Britton who raised over £100 from the Raffle and Didcot Conservative Club for hosting the day.  |
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