Pauline Withey who won the British Ladies Open in 2001
Have to correct you there, Keith.......Auntie Pauline won the 2nd Special Ladies Open in 2001: BIOC Ladies that year was won by Bella from Alison...... Fazza's BBQ42 refers.
Pic added anyway !
Sorry Clive, I went by the No of the photo (001) so thought it was that year. The picture below gave me loads of clues to the date 1.It was taken at Morris Motors where we used to play. 2.The plans for the new bulding are on the wall. 3.Pauline has got an old Oxford Mail report on the notice board when she won the AE Ladies singles the year before. 4.It says on the cup (British Isles Ladies Open Winner). 5.I clicked on the photo and it told me it was taken on 16/2/05 , so I hope I'm correct in saying that it was in 2005 ?
Proud holder of the World Record score for Off The Spot of 25,950.
Timeline (3 of 3) was beginning to look unwieldy, with the front end (2007 and 2008) loaded with pics. With a bit of wizardry, therefore, I've given the two years their own pages, with a link to dial them up similar to how Nigel's Newsletters are accessed.
Chrissie may find the above interesting, referring to her quote below:
I have won AEBBA Ladies IKO 5+ times... Played the table out in a an AEBBA Final at Oxford for over 11K.. ( Has Nigel got that one on record ? ) and with a broken arm !!! Hence I won it when plastered !!!
There are just a couple of gaps, Chrissie, are you able to fill them ? All the AEBBA event transcripts can be found on the AEBBA website although using the drop-down memus is a bit of a trial at the moment.
Yoof and Old Gits will be tacked on later when I get the chance. Again, this is intended to serve as an 'Index' for use with the AEBBA files already recorded.
Old Gits added 17/6/17 Whippersnappers added 17/6/17 Ladies County added 18/6/17
Some of the early info is incorrect. I beat Viv Shepherd in Portsmouth at the Labour Club in what was Arundel Street. It used to be then that if you won it was hosted in your county. It must be on the trophy surely ? I am sure I cut into her run in the early days - hey I may have remembered it wrong - she was a really good player
I also played at Oxford Football Social Club I am sure - I don't have my trophies anymore so can't enlighten you re the year
Thanks Chrissie, Believe it or not that information is vital. For 1975 and 1978 I have Lakers Hotel (Horley) down as the venue and made the (false) assumption that it was held there in the two years in between. I would imagine in one of those two years Viv was your beaten opponent. Can you recall who the other gal was that you beat for the title in those early years ? Also, where the competition was held when you beat Sheila Pinner in 1984 ?
My information comes from a mixture of Sav's former AEBBA site, early press clippings submitted by Charlie Cordery - what a pioneer for the game at a national level ! - and Fazza's Bar Billiards Quarterlies.
So we are reliant on people like yourself who were actually there and lived the dream !
......OR, you can now go straight in by clicking on the top menu of the Forum welcome page. Many thanks to Sav for providing this facility.
Just to add that Nigel is currently preparing an enhancement to the Tournament Files displayed on the AEBBA website, which will not only list past winners (like this does in simplistic form) - but his will also be a much more detailed analysis, listing highest breaks and best all-time performers for each competition.
Have added this to the Timeline, as I consider it to have a certain importance as regards the place of bar billiards within the larger picture:
Nov 2014: Launch of the ‘Traditional Sports and Games - European Platform’, whose mission is: ‘To serve as a European resource hub that stimulates the sharing of TSG policy, knowledge and practice, ultimately increasing the number of institutions and individuals involved in TSG. We hope this will bring us to a united Europe, eternally rich and diverse in TSG. The first SETS Conference took place in hotel Park Plaza Amsterdam Airport Wed 19th - Fri 21st November 2014; Participants: delegates from Denmark, Netherlands, Poland. Belgium, Greece. Chris Saville represents England with full blessing of the AEBBA, taking a demonstration table over to the continent, but with limited aspirations: “To summarise we appear to have no real ideas to change what we are already doing apart from applying to the sports council. The only benefit from the EU would be funding to help our spiralling costs and possibly to pay someone semi- professionally for the time all this organisation takes and enable an expansion of attempts to sell the game.” Slide show presentation: www.slideshare.net/SETS_2015/all-england-bar-billiards-association-chris-saville Post-conference report: “Basically I had vague hopes that SETS would be a cavalry riding over the hill to save us with potential funding to help us run road-shows and other suggestions for new ways of taking our game to the next generations. That will not happen. The conference was too wide a church with reps from massive associations representing hundreds of thousands such as the Highland Games and Irish Gaelic Games, reps from umbrella associations and - Bar Billiards, Bat & Trap and Table Skittles (not Devil Among The Tailors) from England. The clue was in the title 'Sports and Games' They are sports and we are games. Sports have benefits that can be taken to schools and universities. They have their own heritage and traditions which are a selling point. The three English games have no tangible heritage and tradition, our heritage is basically based on the unique local pub tradition in the UK. Pubs and alcohol cannot be promoted to the younger generations. This equally applies to so many other traditional English games such as Shove Halfpenny and 'Devil Among the Tailors'. Thus the only recommendation to come from the conference was to take the English games out of pubs and into Youth Clubs etc. The conference was heavily based on the bigger picture, possible Olympic inclusion and umbrella associations and a lot of it whistled over our heads. The final day was heavily based on UNESCO with a representative talking about UNESCO's work on preserving traditional games. Only one country in this part of Europe has not signed up to the conventions - yes, you got it! the UK. That thus had little interest to us. You might research it and write to your MP's as to why the UK is the only European government not to ratify the treaty. On the positive side the conference was an eye opener with good contacts made with the other English games and we are going to look at possible cooperation between the English traditional games (and possibly others) and try to organise some cross pollination meetings that would have far more chance of attracting public attention than any of our games in isolation. Finance will be an obvious problem. The three of us had dinner with the President of the European Traditional Games and Sports Association and that association has no pyramid structure of major and minor games, all are equal, it may be that ETGSA is the umbrella association that might interest us. I will be looking into this association further. A lot of hard work went into the conference by the organisers and it was well run, though possibly the timetable could have been more flexible when important points had been identified. They certainly looked after us. We were the first of three conferences across Europe so there will have been a learning curve for the organisers.” - Chris Saville.