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Post by iang on Aug 3, 2006 15:15:47 GMT
Hi Welcome to the Horsham board feel free to talk about anything to do with Horsham Billiards. Coming up new sesaon dates. Thanks to Tommo & Q I knew they would beat me to it. Glad to see Q up & running again :) :) 8-) Ian.
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Post by Q on Aug 3, 2006 15:27:30 GMT
I wouldnt go as far as saying 'running' more like a very careful 'stagger' at the moment. ;D
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Post by Sparky on Aug 3, 2006 19:04:05 GMT
Congrats to the new Horsham board and especially it's moderator.... see I'm starting off nice...wonder how long it will last :D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2006 19:07:03 GMT
Is this a "Moderators only" club or can anyone join ? ;D :P ;D
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Post by Sparky on Aug 3, 2006 20:35:27 GMT
If we're the Mods you must be the Rocker ;D
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Post by Kevin Pringle (R.I.P.) on Aug 3, 2006 20:39:15 GMT
I may be a mod but I dont do anything in moderation ;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2006 21:17:18 GMT
If we're the Mods you must be the Rocker ;D Is that any way to refer to a "distinguished Member" ? ;D
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Post by Sparky on Aug 3, 2006 21:19:56 GMT
Congratulations Tommo on your 'coming of age'/distinguished membership now I know why you've been spamming every thread recently ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2006 21:51:06 GMT
Why thank you kind sir. But my 500 posts - though not quite matching Glenn's for verbosity - haven't exactly been one-liners. Quality has not been sacrificed on the altar of quantity, one would hope. ;D
'Spam' belongs in Northants, by the way, along with spam, spam, baked beans and more spam ! ;D
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Post by Sparky on Aug 3, 2006 21:54:23 GMT
You've definitely been infected, here you go again with the 'N' word. :D
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Post by iang on Aug 4, 2006 16:05:16 GMT
Sparky, tommo Ididn't go to all the trouble of badgering Glenn to get the Horsham board so it could be a moderators club hopefully you will have got the promo email by now, good things come to those that wait so I was always told. :D :D
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Post by Sparky on Aug 4, 2006 17:12:48 GMT
Better get your big stick out and persuade some others to join in then ;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2006 17:21:35 GMT
Ian, Mention of mods was an attempt at irony, all three posts at that stage had been by a moderator and I was fishing for a compliment (which duly came) having just passed the 500 mark. You will learn to understand my sense of humour in time, and learn to take most of what I say with a pinch of salt ! Perhaps I too will become a moderator one day - I may offer my services to Glenn if ever he adds a Surrey/Redhill board.
I was being serious on the other thread, though, about the discontinuance of the summer competitions (well before you took over as Secretary, I should add). This was largely down to Eddy Griffin and his "bright idea" one year to send the entry forms out at the start of the season rather than wait till near the end. By the time it came to close the entries, everyone had either lost their forms or forgotten about it completely, and the understandably poor response was used as an excuse to hit two competitions with a great tradition on the head. >:( >:( >:(
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Post by Sparky on Aug 4, 2006 17:55:14 GMT
I had an idea for a Summer Open League (effectively drawing from north Sussex) that I offered to MS (stoney ground comes to mind) and decided that I didn't have enough time etc. to run it all myself./..so did nothing.
Teams of three playing 2 legs per night (6 games & everyone gets a break). If players don't mind travelling then with a home table within 25-30 minutes of Haywards Heath, so players from Billingshurst (The George & Dragon) to Tunbridge Wells (Firemans Arms) to Redhill (The Grapes/Handcross SC)) to Lewes (Horns Lodge/Pump House/Flying Fish?) to Horsham (The Plough/Handcross SC/ etc.) and of course Mid-Sussex (Many).
This gives an idea of what may be possible and would allow players to play against people they don't normally see and at venues they don't normally drink at and IF handicapped could bring in new/inexperienced players or even 'retired' players (perhaps the neucleus of a former team that couldn't raise a full team - The Green Man comes to mind).
Incidentally anyone from Brighton/Worthing etc wouldn't have far to travel to find a table to adopt for the summer :) and with enough teams entering we would have divisions and so separate off the social from the serious :D.
If anyone is interested in seriously helping or taking it on then I'm all ears.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2006 18:13:49 GMT
Nice idea in principle, Sparky, but too ambitious a project ? Too large a scale. Only person who may be able to generate such a sphere of influence would be KT.
Many of us "old stagers" are feeling a bit jaded by around May and welcome the break for the summer. Only the keenest take part in summer leagues - I could have in Redhill but didn't feel I had the energy left for it.
If you want an excellent new competition for Mid Sussex, look no further than organising a "Masters". We're virtually the only Sussex league (apart from Billingshurst) who don't have one. :(
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Post by Sparky on Aug 4, 2006 18:28:59 GMT
Tommo
You are probably right about the idea being too large a scale but that could be reduced.
Never thought you would admit to being past it ;D
I would love to have a MS Masters but that doesn't address the situation we are trying to resolve. Even resurrecting the Horsham Summer Doubles doesn't really help with encouraging new players or drawing 'retired' players back into the leagues. The more I think about it the more I think a pro-active KT approach is the best way but who (singular or plural) will actually make the time and effort to do it for Horsham? Maybe we should also work on other changes that will encourage youngsters as they are the real future of BB.
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Post by lloydy on Aug 4, 2006 20:16:59 GMT
Summer Open League - Sounds like a plan Stan!
I think you would get a good number of teams if you kept it to 3 players. I would certainly put in a team.
It's all good stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2006 20:20:13 GMT
Aye to that, Sparky.
Some observations, rather than solutions : 1. New young players - many come from families already involved in bar billiards. But the game does not seem to have sufficient appeal to attract others, it needs to be promoted somehow.
2. Old retired players can make comebacks - even in Horsham ! John Slee proved this by organising a charity event at Roffey SSC last year and the year before. Billed as "new vs old" it was a super event with a good tombola and raffle. A handsome sum of money was raised for the British Heart Foundation. old names from the past putting in an appearance included Simon Butler (formerly of the Bell), Kevin Williams (ex Tanners) and the now-sadly-departed Mick Foskett (Five Oaks and former captain of Sussex).
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Post by Kevin Pringle (R.I.P.) on Aug 5, 2006 9:17:50 GMT
New young players - many come from families already involved in bar billiards. But the game does not seem to have sufficient appeal to attract others, it needs to be promoted somehow. The young players should get 'their' friends involved ;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2006 17:49:44 GMT
Sounds good on paper, but a lot of bar billiards prodigies are being taken into pubs at 13 or so by their parents, who won't want extra friends tagging along and who they'd have to buy drinks for. Then by the time they're old enough to go out with their own friends they're so proficient that the friends probably recognise too much of a gulf to catch up and can't be bothered to persevere with what is a very difficult game to learn to play well. Whereas Pool - easy peasy by comparison: Therein lies the problem.
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Post by Kevin Pringle (R.I.P.) on Aug 6, 2006 11:52:27 GMT
Agree with the comments Clive, and when I wrote it almost knew what your reply would be. As many leagues are finding out, it is a struggle and clubs seem to benefit from picking up players better than pubs, probably because the youngsters are having a go. I dont think there is a simple answer and BB will eventually go the same as shove-halfpenny, dominoes and crib leagues of the past. Much of it has to go down to breweries attitudes and replacing of the traditional landlord with the managers of the present, who are mainly (not all) in it for the profit only.
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