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Post by bigtj on Oct 21, 2019 15:00:05 GMT
This weeks games
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Post by bigtj on Oct 22, 2019 6:12:57 GMT
| Week 7 | | 24/10/2019 | |
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| Tarring Club | 3 | 2 | Charles Dickens A | | Bye | | | Alexandra B | | Stags Head B | 1 | 4 | Stags Head A | | Alexandra A | 4 | 1 | Pocket Rocket | | CD Nomads | 1 | 4 | Henty |
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Post by "Silent" on Oct 24, 2019 21:40:21 GMT
Stags Head B 1-4 Stags Head A
*Phil 7470 - 9150 Chris - very good 7k start from Phil, but an excellent 8k chase from Chris for the leg
Matt 2220 - 12,210 Martin* - Martin kicked off with an excellent 11k
Nigel 10,380 - 4070 Geoff* - Geoff off on 2k, excellent break from Nige for the leg
*Jean 4460 - 9490 Bob - Jean off after 3k, Bob made enough but nearly a cock-up when closing in on victory but played a good recovery for the leg
Tupps 6210 - 7970 Jim* - Jim got an early kick and a couple of chances for Tupps but Jim made sure close to the end
Good company as always, well done to the A team on their win
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Post by bigtj on Oct 24, 2019 22:31:50 GMT
Alex A 4 Pocket Rocket 1
Played at the Henty and a fun night with plenty of banter. Thanks to the Henty for toad in the hole and kindly letting us play there whilst the Alex was shut.
Also to Alan and his team for travelling the extra distance to get the game played.
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Post by bigtj on Oct 25, 2019 6:54:49 GMT
| Alexandra A | | 24-Oct | Pocket Rocket |
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| Rick Cunningham | 5020 | 1640 | Gemma Wilson * | | Steve Aylmore * | 0 | 1470 | Lance Goldsmith | | Mal Spier | 8780 | 2710 | Matt Enticknapp * | | Joe Oakley * (9780) | 10410 | 580 | Bepo | | Tony Jenner | 5410 | 4480 | Alan Mepham * | | 4 | 29620 | 10880 | 1 |
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Post by neilh on Oct 25, 2019 8:10:43 GMT
Looks like there is still confusion re. who gets what breaks. Last week we played the Pocket Rocket, who still had the "original" version of this season's fixtures, and were expecting to have all 5 breaks, when they should have breaks 2,3 and 5. I see from the Alex v Pocket Rocket match that the Alex had breaks 2 and 4, when they should have had breaks 1 and 4. Having re-read the rules this morning, we even got it wrong when we played the Henty (containing the league secretary) last night. The rule when a premier side plays a premier side is that the Home captain nominates first in games 1 and 4, with the away captain in games 2,3 and 5. We didn't do that with us nominating first in all games. I don't think we've done it correctly all season - oops! It also doesn't actually say who should have the break, rather it's assumed that the Home side has 1 and 4.
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Post by bigtj on Oct 25, 2019 8:57:25 GMT
This is the latest league rules as far as I can ascertain, so agree with Neil we probably have all being playing it incorrectly. Sure L4 is worded incorrectly though as I think in games against teams in the same division it was meant to be the home captain that named first in all games. Will bring these points up at the next committee meeting, hopefully we have all at least when a premier plays first the premier captain is nominating first home and away.
L 4. When a league match concerns two teams from the same division ie, Premier v Premier, Division 1 v Division 1 or Division 2 v Division 2, captains shall select a player in attendance from their team, prior to each game, with the Home captain nominating first in games 1 & 4, the Away captain in games 2, 3 & 5.
L 5. When a Division 1 team plays a Premier side, the Division 1 team will get breaks in games 2, 3 & 5, the Premier side in games 1 & 4. Home and Away. The Premier captain nominating first in all games. When Division 2 teams play a team from a higher Division, they will receive all 5 breaks (not including cup matches), Home and Away, with the higher division captain nominating first in all matches.
L 6. The away team shall be given the top line of the scoring indicator and it shall be suitably marked.
L 7. A competent scorer shall be provided by the home team and a checker by the away team.
Pretty certain rule L6 and L7 is not adhered to at all times???
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Post by "Silent" on Oct 25, 2019 12:11:56 GMT
This is the latest league rules as far as I can ascertain, so agree with Neil we probably have all being playing it incorrectly. Sure L4 is worded incorrectly though as I think in games against teams in the same division it was meant to be the home captain that named first in all games. Will bring these points up at the next committee meeting, hopefully we have all at least when a premier plays first the premier captain is nominating first home and away. L 4. When a league match concerns two teams from the same division ie, Premier v Premier, Division 1 v Division 1 or Division 2 v Division 2, captains shall select a player in attendance from their team, prior to each game, with the Home captain nominating first in games 1 & 4, the Away captain in games 2, 3 & 5.
L 5. When a Division 1 team plays a Premier side, the Division 1 team will get breaks in games 2, 3 & 5, the Premier side in games 1 & 4. Home and Away. The Premier captain nominating first in all games. When Division 2 teams play a team from a higher Division, they will receive all 5 breaks (not including cup matches), Home and Away, with the higher division captain nominating first in all matches.
L 6. The away team shall be given the top line of the scoring indicator and it shall be suitably marked. L 7. A competent scorer shall be provided by the home team and a checker by the away team. Pretty certain rule L6 and L7 is not adhered to at all times??? Whilst L6 and L7 are league rules they have no real material effect on the match, apart from hoping the scorer is not incompetent! The order of breaks, who nominates and who actually has the breaks quite clearly does I think the website suggests the order that was used in the Alex v Pocket Rocket match but the fixture list suggests a different order, perhaps you could clarify when you get a chance please Tony |
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Post by bobhall on Oct 25, 2019 12:28:34 GMT
Looks like there is still confusion re. who gets what breaks. Last week we played the Pocket Rocket, who still had the "original" version of this season's fixtures, and were expecting to have all 5 breaks, when they should have breaks 2,3 and 5. I see from the Alex v Pocket Rocket match that the Alex had breaks 2 and 4, when they should have had breaks 1 and 4. Having re-read the rules this morning, we even got it wrong when we played the Henty (containing the league secretary) last night. The rule when a premier side plays a premier side is that the Home captain nominates first in games 1 and 4, with the away captain in games 2,3 and 5. We didn't do that with us nominating first in all games. I don't think we've done it correctly all season - oops! It also doesn't actually say who should have the break, rather it's assumed that the Home side has 1 and 4. No one has done it right I still dont have the league rules so we should have been made aware but such is life not sure some rules were changed when they were working I know we havent used it so far and we have played lots of home games and had to nominate in all 5 |
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Post by neilh on Oct 25, 2019 12:30:42 GMT
Can't see where the website suggests that order was correct. Rule L 5. looks pretty clear to me.
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Post by neilh on Oct 25, 2019 12:33:29 GMT
Bob, not having a set of rules shouldn't happen. I thought all teams had received one, we certainly did.
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Post by bobhall on Oct 25, 2019 12:45:56 GMT
Bob, not having a set of rules shouldn't happen. I thought all teams had received one, we certainly did. I received cards and footy cards but that's it so will await rules being sent so we all know I suppose when we played you we broke the rules but seems like everyone has |
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Post by neilh on Oct 25, 2019 13:03:11 GMT
Yes, we've had 3 Home matches and got it wrong every time! We've played the breaks in the correct order, but not the order of nominations.
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Post by "Silent" on Oct 25, 2019 13:07:45 GMT
Can't see where the website suggests that order was correct. Rule L 5. looks pretty clear to me. It's halfway down the first page |
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Post by bigtj on Oct 25, 2019 13:25:46 GMT
Web site is done by me and I now that I look at the rules I have it wrong, I have not received a set of rules for this season or any competition entry forms yet. I went with what was said at beginning of the season, but again I as chairman should have checked the rules, still certain rule L4 has been done with the wrong wording. I can only apologise for what is a genuine human error, the web site is done and paid for by me and not actually controlled by the league, just something I do as I enjoy doing it and keeping everything up to date.
Matt correct in saying half way down the 1st page, problem with having varying rules re breaks and order of play.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 13:33:17 GMT
As a fellow "Webbie" I'd say to TJ "don't beat yourself up". Sure the league website is a vehicle for obtaining rapid information, but not for controlling what happens in the League. Granted that the Rules being up-to-date is important, but the first line of communication should rest with the League Secretary and if your situation is the same as mine, they lead and you follow.
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Post by neilh on Oct 25, 2019 13:53:17 GMT
Not having a go at you TJ, I think what you do and the hours you spend doing it are phenominal and much appreciated. Everyone should have a copy of the rules to avoid these situations.
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Post by "Silent" on Oct 25, 2019 13:55:31 GMT
Web site is done by me and I now that I look at the rules I have it wrong, I have not received a set of rules for this season or any competition entry forms yet. I went with what was said at beginning of the season, but again I as chairman should have checked the rules, still certain rule L4 has been done with the wrong wording. I can only apologise for what is a genuine human error, the web site is done and paid for by me and not actually controlled by the league, just something I do as I enjoy doing it and keeping everything up to date. Matt correct in saying half way down the 1st page, problem with having varying rules re breaks and order of play. No need for apologies Tony, all that anyone is after is the rules we should be abiding by. I think part of the problem was the original fixture list had one set of rules, the new one has a different set and your match last night was played under a 3rd set  |
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Post by "Silent" on Oct 25, 2019 13:56:18 GMT
Whoops Neil beat me to it....I agree with Neil
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Post by bigtj on Oct 25, 2019 14:13:27 GMT
no problem I wasn`t taking it personally, I like everyone else just want to make sure it is clarified and we paly the rest of the season under correct order of play, I have only the original fixtures and my rules are amended as of 01/08/2018 but sure no rule changes to order of play and break situation have been put through the AGM of 2019.
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Post by bobhall on Oct 25, 2019 17:12:01 GMT
So the question is now if no rule has been put in for 2019 who made these rules up and why are they out
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Post by bigtj on Oct 26, 2019 6:37:16 GMT
Hi Bob not sure anyone has made up the rules I have a set dated 01/08/2017 which rule L5 states When a division 1 team plays a premier side, the Division 1 team will get breaks in games 1, 3 and 5 and the Premier side in games 2 and 54. The premier captain nominating first in all games Home and Away. When division 2 teams play a team from a higher division, they will receive all 5 breaks (not including cup matches), Home and Away, with the a division 1 captain nominating first in all matches. Again poorly written as in the last part only says division1 and no mention of the premier??
I must admit this is the rule as I remembered it and posted on the web site, but that seems to have changed on the rules dated 1/08/18 am looking to get the AGM minutes checked to see why the change, but at least that shows why the confusion.
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Post by bobhall on Oct 26, 2019 9:10:19 GMT
Hi Bob not sure anyone has made up the rules I have a set dated 01/08/2017 which rule L5 states When a division 1 team plays a premier side, the Division 1 team will get breaks in games 1, 3 and 5 and the Premier side in games 2 and 54. The premier captain nominating first in all games Home and Away. When division 2 teams play a team from a higher division, they will receive all 5 breaks (not including cup matches), Home and Away, with the a division 1 captain nominating first in all matches. Again poorly written as in the last part only says division1 and no mention of the premier?? I must admit this is the rule as I remembered it and posted on the web site, but that seems to have changed on the rules dated 1/08/18 am looking to get the AGM minutes checked to see why the change, but at least that shows why the confusion. Yes tj that rule from 2017 is fine but now we have nominating in break games which I dont think is needed as for last two years it's worked fine I'm happy to give all 5 breaks away to lower teams but we need clarity on what rules we need to follow this by any means is not ur job this should have been made clear at the start of the season |
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Post by bigtj on Oct 26, 2019 10:14:15 GMT
More to the point of the thread any more results this week????
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Post by davejones on Oct 26, 2019 20:49:59 GMT
More to the point of the thread any more results this week???? I am just waiting for the CD Nomads v Henty scorecard to come in |
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Post by davejones on Oct 26, 2019 20:52:18 GMT
<p></p> | Tarring Club | | | | | | Charles Dickens A |
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| | | | | | | | M Jones * | | 5100 | - | 4590 | | T Stringer | | A Formoy | | 1310 | - | 2720 | | S Hurley * | | T Collins | | 1510 | - | 800 | | A Farmer-Wright * | | J Osborn * | | 4430 | - | 340 | | D Jones | | M Jones * | | 1750 | - | 3400 | | C Lucas * | | | 3 | | 2 | | | | | | | | | | | Total Score | | 14100 | | 11850 | | |
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Post by chocie on Oct 27, 2019 9:48:39 GMT
Have not got the scores but the result was 4-1 to the Henty. TJ
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Post by SirKT on Oct 27, 2019 19:11:51 GMT
Have not got the scores but the result was 4-1 to the Henty. TJ Barney 1910 v 9520 Chocie Tony B 5380 v6070 Neil 1690 v 10740 Fitz Ros 3410 v11050 Alan M 5780 v 2100 Gareth C |
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Post by oaklj007 on Oct 27, 2019 19:23:38 GMT
Have not got the scores but the result was 4-1 to the Henty. TJ Barney 1910 v 9520 Chocie Tony B 5380 v6070 Neil 1690 v 10740 Fitz Ros 3410 v11050 Alan M 5780 v 2100 Gareth C Captain is having a funny 5 minuets Molly played 2nd and KT played 4th :) |
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