Possible Formats for next season...??

[iang]

The Break system is as I said before a hot topic & people don't like change Horsham went the 3 - 2 route for a year and was dropped the following year. Interestingly it was to help Div 2 sides but they were the ones who protested the most to go back to the old way. All away breaks has been proposed & rejected in Mid Sussex agm's before, it all depends on who & how many attend.

I beleive all away breaks works well once you get used to it it is a fairer system esp0ecially when the underdog's meet the top teams.
I know this has been debated elsewhere on the forum several times & you will always have both camps.

Agree with the previous three 'posters' and the sentiment that all five away breaks makes for a level playing field.

[BB Warrior]

Plenty of good ideas here..... hopefully somebody will take some / all of them forward to the Committee & AGM to ensure a successful season next year.

[specialone]

I propose we start to use the 80/20 rule

After a recent game against a less serious side, I grabbed my drink, and plonked myself down in the middle of them. I often do this. Does anyone else? Started a conversation about the way we do things. What I heard challenged the accepted view on all plays all, the length of the season, and the way in which the league is changing.

My views on what should have happened this season, and seasons after are well known, and I do not wish to enter this debate.

The 80/20 rule is when you listen for 80% of the time, and only talk for 20% of the time. That way you are better able to represent views, rather than telling people what is best for them.
Regards to all.
Shaun

[BB Warrior]

Apr 22, 2009 16:19:33 GMT specialone said:

I propose we start to use the 80/20 rule

After a recent game against a less serious side, I grabbed my drink, and plonked myself down in the middle of them. I often do this. Does anyone else? Started a conversation about the way we do things. What I heard challenged the accepted view on all plays all, the length of the season, and the way in which the league is changing.

My views on what should have happened this season, and seasons after are well known, and I do not wish to enter this debate.

The 80/20 rule is when you listen for 80% of the time, and only talk for 20% of the time. That way you are better able to represent views, rather than telling people what is best for them.
Regards to all.
Shaun

It would be interesting to hear their views..... as I know that they are not members of the Forum and have not (to the best of my knowledge) ever made suggestions as to how they feel that the League should be organised. ???

The League (and the way that it is / should be run) extends far beyond the minority of people that post on here, however if the majority do not make their thoughts known..... then the only changes will always start from the minority. ::)

Would you be able to share their thoughts with us...... ;)

Interesting point from Shaun on the 80/20 principle.

It could also be true of a League's AGM where a minority bother to voice their view and finish up representing 80% of the League in doing so.

But our league is gathering momentum and the standard is following a Fibonacci sequence..............

Perhaps those who have commented that most people seem to be content with how things are at present are misreading the signals, which could just be that they don't really mind one way or the other how it's run, and are just content with turning out each week to play.

[BB Warrior]

Well, the AGM has been and gone and there was very little discussion about possible formats for next season..... apart from the suggestion that if there is more than 16 teams that the "all plays all" system would make the season too long.

With the team registrations now (nearly all) with the secretary, I thought it would be a good time to revisit this thread again to give people an opportunity to air any ideas that they may have before the Committee meet to agree on the format for next year.

So, all suggestions welcomed..... 8-) ;)

[Sparky]

I can understand why a discussion on this topic can be healthy free speech for some but can also see how it can be seen to be used to exert pressure on the committee members just before they make such an important and difficult decision (I know how difficult this topic can be from my previous time on the committee), therefore I will not hesitate to lock or move this thread without warning or explanation if I consider this may be happening or receive a complaint or perceive flaming/argument starting etc.

Hopefully such drastic action won't be necessary as this topic has already been done to death. I certainly have nothing further to add.

I think Warrior's motive in 'bumping' this thread is not to provoke a brand new debate, but rather to give anyone who has strong views on the subject one last chance to air them before the Committee hold their League Formation meeting.

As Warrior says, not much was said at the AGM - which was the time to express any discontent with the current system - and ultimately the Committee have been entrusted with the decision making.

[BB Warrior]

As Tommo rightly says, there was no intention from me here to start anything that would be controversial, I simply bumped the thread as the subject hasn't been mentioned for over 3 months and there may be some people who either didn't see it before..... or have had time to think of something during that time. ???

The Forum is a very useful place to gain the opinions of league members but, quite rightly, it is the Committee that makes the decision on the format. 8-)

Speaking personally, I have no further ideas to add...... ;)

[Sparky]

Thank you Tommo, I too thought this thread exhausted and could not see any merit reopening it, however 'bumping' it to encourage us (the MS forum users) to just re-read the options and views previously discussed seems reasonable.

Thank you too Warrior as I am sure your intentions were good but as it is such an emotive topic I didn't want it to stir up trouble just in advance of the Committee decision and so cause further damage.

[Q]

Aug 3, 2009 13:40:49 GMT Sparky said:

therefore I will not hesitate to lock or move this thread without warning or explanation if I consider this may be happening or receive a complaint or perceive flaming/argument starting etc.

You'll have to beat me to it Graham ;D

After past problems I watch all threads VERY closely and I promise that I too will jump at the slightest whiff of controversy.

I agree with the other comments and feel that seeing as the committee were entrusted with sorting it out, that is exactly what they should (and will) be doing.
If people dont speak out at the AGM they have no right to complain later.

[Sparky]

Thanks Bernie and expected you to be watching and, in your feline way, waiting to pounce ;D