Oxford Open draw and start times

[milhouse]

Hi All, first tournament of the year sees 98 entrants. See below the draw with start times. See you all there!
Round 2

		

Chris Ellam	Ian Moss	10:00	T 8
Pete Ewins	Tony Webster	1:00	T 8
Pauline Withey	Geoff Jukes	1:00	T 2
Joe O'Farrell	Sean Stratford	1:00	T 4
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Daniel Woolvin	Paul Reece	1:00	T 3
John Cole	Chris Toner	1:00	T 7
Mark James	Stuart Florey	1:45	T 1
Mark Turner	Peter Edwards	1:45	T 3
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Richard Plaw	Sarah McConochie	1:00	T 9
Jimmy Robson	Dave Barnes (Eyn)	10:00	T 4
Colin Winstone	Paul Lovegrove	10:00	T 6
Sam Goddard	Paul Butcher	10:00	T 2
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Lorraine Hall	Mary Daniels	1:45	T 9
Steven Sheard	Tony Martin	10:00	T 9
Kevin Godfrey	Bill Kerr	1:45	T 2
			
Round 1			
			
Dave Jones	Jason Giles	10:45	T 2
Chris Storch	Rik Dewdney	11:30	T 2
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Gary Johnson	Sandra Race	11:30	T 4
Frank Cox	Mal Spier	11:30	T 7
Chris Newson	Kevin Tunstall	11:30	T 8
Stuart Giles	Kurt Driver	12:15	T 8
Jenny Edwards	Keith Hollis	11:30	T 9
Maxi McDonnell	Dave Tallack	10:45	T 9
Ray Sturgess	Gareth Lloyd	11:30	T 5
Paul Caistor	Keith Sheard	10:00	T 5
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Joseph Storch	Frank Doyle	12:15	T 4
Sue Atkins	Tony Woolvin	10:45	T 4
Barry Radford	Mark Trafford	10:45	T 5
Richard Wooton	Tony Willis	11:30	T 6
Dave May	Alan Chaloner	12:15	T 2
Pete Phillips	Phil Collins	10:45	T 6
Gerry Fitzjohn	Brian Daniels	12:15	T 6
David Ingram	Lee Radford	10:45	T 8
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Dave Constable	Sean Lee	10:45	T 3
Bill Houlton	Kady Claydon	10:45	T 7
Mark Brewster	Jon Bamsey	12:15	T 3
Pete Farrelly	Tony Brown	12:15	T 7
Ian Lelliott	Jenny Abbott	11:30	T 3
Brian Dawkins	Leon Beer	10:00	T 7
Nigel Senior	Jon Scoones	11:30	T 1
Tony Jenner	Dave Tooke	12:15	T 9
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Richard Jeffries	Dennis Atkins	10:45	T 1
Martin Atkins	Dennis Claydon	10:00	T 1
Eric Hill	Mick Jones	12:15	T 1
Alan Messer	Chris Reeves	1:00	T 1
Simon Ellam	Derek Payne	10:00	T 3
Kevin Hall	Pete Lee	1:00	T 6
Bob Allsworth	Pete Welch	1:00	T 5
Dave Barnes (Wall)	Jean Brackenridge	12:15	T 5

Please note the following changes have been made.
Jenny Parsons replaced by Chris Storch
Jonathan George replaced by Joseph Storch
Mark George replaced by Sean Stratford

[NigelS]

Cheers Mark, good to see a big entry for the first tournament of the year.

[milhouse]

nigels said:

Cheers Mark, good to see a big entry for the first tournament of the year.

Indeed. A big increase on the 76 we had last year!

We have had a couple of people drop out, so there are spaces available if people can now make it and want to enter ?
I won't say who has dropped out, just in case the potential new people don't like the draw ;) ;D

[fazza]

The draw is NOW spaced out correctly so that you can pick your last 16 in the proper thread elsewhere on this forum

[bigtj]

Thanks for that Pete helps us illiterate ones notso capable of working it out.

[fazza]

I was given the draw without Counties and I apologise to Gerry Fitzjohn for not remembering where he was from. I thought he may be local. Now I find he is from Kent and does not really want to leave at Dawn (whoever she is!). I will look at it within the next day or so and see if any match can be swapped. Unless there are any volunteers to come early and avoid the crush.

[milhouse]

fazza said:

I was given the draw without Counties and I apologise to Gerry Fitzjohn for not remembering where he was from. I thought he may be local. Now I find he is from Kent and does not really want to leave at Dawn (whoever she is!). I will look at it within the next day or so and see if any match can be swapped. Unless there are any volunteers to come early and avoid the crush.

Just sent a pm to you Pete, this match should be able to be swapped with Pete Phillips match as he is travelling up on the Friday.

[fazza]

Yeah great, ok with me. Please let all those concerned know that Pete Phillips and Phil Collins will now play at 10.45, with Gerry Fitzjohn and Brian Daniels switched to 12.15. I do hope now that the Kent lads can sleep soundly in their beds for an extra hour and a half. Mine's still a bacardi and coke!

[davemay]

Peter, and Millhouse

Grateful thanks for finding a way to ensure that we don't have to leave at an ungodly hour to arive at the Open, and we all look forward to seeing old friends, and making new ones in Didcot on saturday week.

Thanks again gentlemen for your efforts on this matter


Dave May

[beefy]

Can we have the draw so we can predict the qtr finalists etc

[NigelS]

beefy said:

Can we have the draw so we can predict the qtr finalists etc

Beefy have a look on the tipsters board, it is all there for you.

[peetee]

Ive been informed by my mate Milko that this the Oxfordshire Open and not the Oxford Open :-X

[milko]

peetee said:

Ive been informed by my mate Milko that this the Oxfordshire Open and not the Oxford Open :-X

You are correct, mate.!!

[bigtj]

Excellent, well organised day at Oxford, as you would expect very high standard of play, with the tables setting a fair challange to all.
Congratulations to Mark Turner on his win in the final over KT, and to Ray Sturgess for winning the plate, beating Steven Sheard in the final. Sure somebody will put all states on later, but again very high scoring throghout the day.
Thanks to all those who put in tha hard work of organising, in front and behind the scenes. The venue was excellent with plenty of room for spectators.

[BB Warrior]

I would echo the comments made by BigTJ, a superb day day at Didcot Conservative Club which made an excellent venue!

Congratulations to Mark Turner on his victory, also to Ray Sturgess on winning the plate and for his hard work (along with all the other organisers!) who made the day run so smoothly.

[NigelS]

Fantastic win for Mark Turner, still proving what a great player he is despite not playing as many opens as he used to.

For others that were not there

Runner Up - KT

Semi finalists - Tony Martin, Chris Reeves

Quarter finalists - Phil Collins, Nigel Senior, Paul Lovegrove, Geoff Jukes

Thanks to Ray, Mark and Dave Barnes for their great efforts throughout the day.

[SirKT]

I`ll just echo Nigel`s sentiments about Mark. He did worry earlier in the day, saying he didn`t expect to get very far, but i told him the cream `always rises to the top`, and so it proved.
The standard of play was very high, I know, having to chase two run-outs in my first two matches ::)
Another one v Gary Johnson in the third rd meant yet another match-up against Milko in the next.
It didn`t help either when my regular cue disappeared just before I was to play Milko ???, fortunately I carry my spare in the car and was able to switch to that while everyone looked for the other. Two more run-outs against Keith & Phil Collins took me to the semis, and then a strange thing happened........my other cue appeared ??? in the far corner, where three of us looked earlier.
Odd that :-/
Milko just fell short in our match, chasing 20,700, the bar dropped when he was about 1k behind, hard luck mate :'(

Then it was my usual Worthing/Brighton opponent in Chris Reeves, who made an early mistake on table 2, and i had my regular piece of luck against him (always seems to be chris) to get the break back and play the clock out and then opened with enough in the second.

Mark had good wins on his way to the final - Pete Edwards, Mark James (chasing 11k), Paul Reece (last ball game), Geoff Jukes & teammate Tony Martin (also had a great day, starting off by beating Steve Sheard in the 1st rd).

The final itself saw Mark totally outplay me (I couldn`t get the one-up right) to win his second Oxon open title, and surprise surprise, he beat me in the other one as well :P

Great day, well done to Murph and Jenny in the kitchen (food was excellent) and to all on the admin desk. A very good venue.

[davejones]

Another excellent day of bar billiards,
Congratulations to Mark I believe it is now 4-2 to Mark on open wins against Sir KT.
A great big thanks to the organisers for all their hard work
A great day out

[fazza]

nigels said:

Fantastic win for Mark Turner, still proving what a great player he is despite not playing as many opens as he used to.

Thanks to Ray, Mark and Dave Barnes for their great efforts throughout the day.

Echo the first bit but you obviously forgot ME in the second line up. My format would have kept to schedule perfectly if we had not had one of those 45 minute raffles. Everybody won a prize though, even me!!!!

[milhouse]

Better to have too many prizes than not enough !
I think Tony Webster hired a 2nd van to take all his prizes home :o :o :o ;) ;) ;D ;D

[fazza]

Fraid I do not agree. Too many prizes causes a ridiculous delay before the next round. Players can be pumped up and ready to play, so the last thing they want is to have people going up to choose between a cheap bottle of wine and another cheap bottle of wine. Or a box of deodorant and a box of bubble bath. Better prizes would have more of an impact.

[SirKT]

Have to agree with Fazza on this one. If you do get lots of bottles donated (thats great), but pair them up. We did this recently on a function night & it saved quite a bit of time :)

[Ray Sturgess (R.I.P.)]

sorry about the raffle but without it you might just have to cross oxford off the map next year

[Ray Sturgess (R.I.P.)]

sorry about the raffle but without it you might just have to cross oxford off the map next year

[bigtj]

Agree with Ray, a raffle is imperative if opens are to continue at their current entry fees, on the otherhand I think nearly everyone supports the raffle with at least a fiver, so prehaps another route would be to do away with raffles and charge £15 instead.
This of course for some would take away the chance to gain something for the extra fiver, then KTS` suggestion of doubling up prizes is an excellent one and am sure would not effect the number of tickets brought. The other problem was in thatpeople had left and quite a few had to be redrawn, causing the draw to be furthur elongated.

[SirKT]

I agree Ray, without a raffle, you probably can`t survive.
A few years` ago, we tried to cut the amount of prizes and obtain bigger & better ones. Great idea if you have the resources I know, but it does work.
I approached Channel hotels when we were in Jersey and managed to get a free weeks stay at the De Normandie, b&b(flights not included) as the main prize. I think John Burrows won it.
I remember running out of raffle tickets anyway, so you don`t need loads of smaller prizes to sell them :)

[beefy]

Just a thought but why not put the price up £3 and give each player one strip of raffle tickets. That way you don't have to sell them and can do the draw around luchtime so people have a natural break to get some food etc. In my opinion the raffles are done late to maximise the tickets but if you give everyone tickets in the entry cost you can draw it much earlier in the day.

How much did the raffle raise as there were in excess of 90 entries so at £3 a pop thats £270 and charge anyone who is not entereing the comp £3 to come in and give them a strip to. One set of raffle tickets is all that would be required so saving on some admin costs to.

[Colemanator]

I recently attended a charity do, the raffle was 'drawn' by two individuals and the tickets were placed on the prizes, this all happened whilst the guests were eating and or dancing etc, all you had to do was look at the prizes and claim it if your ticket was attached to it , sorry Pete but Sundays raffle was also dead boring and too long and we left before it's conclusion, Agree with Ray also though that raffles are needed for income, some sense and common ground is needed, maybe Bournemouth could be used as an experiment ???

[fazza]

I didn't say I disagreed with raffles taking place, just the number and standard of prizes. One or three really good prizes and then about 15 smaller ones would be enough. If time was at a premium, as it usually is, the numbers could be drawn by any independent person during play and listed for viewing before people leave. If any are not claimed, a re-draw could take place in a few minutes.

As I have said, it just needlessly prolongs at already long day.

45 minutes for this one forced myself and I am sure many others to leave instead of staying for this exciting final.

[Mark James]

I agree with Pete Farrelly, in that a raffle is a useful method of raising revenue for the tournament which would have to be raised in another way if no raffle were held, but it shouldn’t be allowed to impinge on the progress of the tournament itself.

One point concerning when the prize draw takes place. I’ve always felt that it makes sense to do it between the last 16 and the quarter finals. Playing formats mean that this is the point in the day when winning players cease to have a break before their next match, so the raffle draw provides a natural gap of a few minutes before the remaining 8 players enter the final stages of the tournament.

But I do feel that the raffle draw should only be a few minutes in duration. Open tournament days are quite long enough already (through necessity), and we shouldn’t extend them any more than we have to.