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Post by taffy on Dec 20, 2016 9:08:34 GMT
I heard you were 'extravagant' with your cloth Sav! what went wrong LOL!! the bed inside the cushions is 144cm long and 82.5cm across 57" by 32.5"
how does that suit. hopefully i have a normal table.
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Post by taffy on Dec 19, 2016 20:03:54 GMT
Hello Sav
can I order two sets please?
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Post by taffy on Dec 19, 2016 8:30:27 GMT
The Dobblers in cambridge and the Bushel in newmarket do NOT have a table.
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Post by taffy on Dec 17, 2016 19:43:01 GMT
Hello Tommo
having watched Ely beat West Norfolk at Rugby (Kings Lynn to you) I visited three pubs on my way home and ended up soberer than when I started!
the first was the Victory Inn at Clenchwarton. Their table was out of the room for the night as the restaurant is full. it comes out for Wednesday and Thursday evenings.
on to The Buck Inn at Tilney St. Lawrence and their table is in a back shed because the youngsters have been very naughty on it and need punishing (What ever happened to the Village (duck) chair for chrissakes!).
on to non-League Heron Arms in Stowbridge and they haven't had a table for 10 years......
over and out....
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Post by taffy on Dec 16, 2016 14:20:53 GMT
me too! always too busy was a text reply....
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Post by taffy on Dec 15, 2016 18:23:58 GMT
I like the idea of being as equally gentle to get the ball down as not catch a skittle that falls easily Tony.
so I'd hate to have easydrop pockets and delicate skittles or difficult pockets where the balls roll around for ever but mushrooms like mine with a 21.5mm base and 3" off the deck that a hammer didn't move.
if they are equal and that adds to the nice rythem of the game then that will do! understand about the reds-cheers!
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Post by taffy on Dec 14, 2016 14:32:25 GMT
I have a lot of stuff made for my business that's CNC alloy. I reckon on making some easy drop pockets with varying lip angles to try them out in the top 5 pockets.
do people like a ball to disappear when it catches a pocket or is it OK that it rolls the edge and has a skittle over? how do people feel about that?
any views on the lip angle especially Sav?
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Post by taffy on Dec 14, 2016 14:30:44 GMT
well, I found out that the skittle should be 6mm from the edge of the hole. can anyone define for me what the 'edge of the hole' is because the OD of the hole and where the edge of the ring is are variant upon the manufacturer?
also, and I may have missed it (scared to ask now! LOL!!!) how do you (like to) brush the nap of the table?
how do you define an old cloth or any of the grades of wear? (new, excellent, OK, still passable....)
the balls often stop right at the edge of the hole, is this because the cloth wasn't drawn down the hole when the table was clothed? and is there anything to be done?
does baize have an automated dog hair from the air catchability capability??????????
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Post by taffy on Dec 14, 2016 14:16:40 GMT
I've just had some skittles made for me by a brilliant guy named Alan on Ebay who repairs tables and makes skittles and mushrooms etc. I looked up the Sudbury league rules and the AEBBA and decided on 18mm broad skittles rather than the ones Alan produses normally which are 16.5mm. this is the maximum permissible. as the skittles are waisted at the base and then go up getting broader, i suggested that all i needed was 10mm off the base and that would be the 18mm. it also brings down the Centre of Gravity to the same height as the mushrooms. he hollowed them out underneath as well, whereas the tall original and the mushroom are flat and want to fall over just standing them up! the 1mm rim that mine stand on means they penetrate the baize deeper and get a firm footing. after a few games it takes generally the same amount of skill but you can nudge them a little harder and try tighter angles. the bad news: well, where the ball would contact the skittle is now even wider - probably by 1.5mm as well! Very pleased with them! regards Taffy
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Post by taffy on Dec 7, 2016 10:14:45 GMT
this is a photo of the table in the 'east wing' LOL!!!! here is a photo of the table. would love a red ball ANYBODY! there's a table on Ebay right now looks similar (£599 start price) but this is a later and 'cheaper' table I feel. I just love the Mushrooms with the wasted stems. I can get inside any ball for a 'cue ball in the 100'. amazing! a skittle falls over just because i was THINKING of taking the shot! Sorry Sav but I started reading that thread and didn't realise it would go on to re-cover the table. as a mechanic, to me, maintenance is checking the oil so I didn't twig the current of the thread. Taffy
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Post by taffy on Dec 6, 2016 1:38:19 GMT
next question: how far ahead of the holes is the pin centre point Tommo?
can you tell me if Sav or anyone here has ever done a thread on recovering a table? I can't see one? I must say 17-minutes tonight after all those 10 minute games was killing me. I need to give it a rest, it's a bit like a boy's favourite hobby, I'm gonna go blind if I carry on!
I need to re-leather the near end so I will see if I don't have a patch left or as you say - have a go with the duct tape.
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Post by taffy on Dec 5, 2016 16:29:24 GMT
cheers Tommo
I have it now. I fitted a block connector lunchtime and the next P*K*N game took 23.50 before thew gate dropped, I was on my knees! help!
with a little adjustment we have been down to 19M and now 17M 15s.
is this to international standard Sir!
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Post by taffy on Dec 5, 2016 12:31:44 GMT
further to thisd (and it's a shame there isn't further real discussion -so come on you lot), I have been using Mushrooms in the middle line, in front of the 200 and 100. this has meant that getting a ball behind the centre pocket is so, so easy as mushrooms are waisted where it matters!
so for my tests I'm heading for: 4 pin mushrooms in front of the 200 and the 100 skittles in front of the 50s easydrop pockets if i can find them.
the alternative is: 3 pin on the 4 pin table mushrooms in front of the 200 skittles in front of the 50s 50s worth 100, and 100 worth 50 = swop. (as unguarded) easydrop pockets if i can find them.
if mushrooms = make the D ever so slightly smaller. A 'D' being 40mm radius presently.
as everyone who comes here to my abode (I have many customers through business visit) will be invited to play for the first time I can try it on them first!
there must be loads of you at home with a table, some skittles and mushrooms etc.....
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Post by taffy on Dec 5, 2016 12:22:42 GMT
Thanks Tommo, yes a photo is due I feel. There is a 2-3mm drop from the Leather onto the felt which I take to be the difference between the Slate and the MDF. it really is fine except outside the 50s and that could be what? I'm guessing and hoping it is the baize and its wear/threadbareness in the middle. the 4 legs all have steel plates underneath to adjust - which is good. I can see 8 domed coach bolt heads - 2 to a leg - on each orner that clamp it all together.
I don't have anything fitted on the quivering bit, certainly no bush. I can do this by using a model car axle clamp. we use them on Carbs. how big or how heavy is this threaded bush? (link please?) the way this lengthens a game is an adjustable nose that marchs forwards eventually kicking the gate down. the clock fairly buzzes away and I 'feel' that it is the sheer speed of the clock that makes it wind down so quickly. I can soften the spring a little as my next test?
I have looked all over this section of the site and not found anything on recovering with new baize. My attitude tommo is that a table that needs re-covering and new bits and bobs goes from the least desirable to the most desirable of its type so i'm not crying at all.
I would like the easydrop pocket rings but I believe that they are no longer available right?
lots of questions....sorry!
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Post by taffy on Dec 4, 2016 23:04:57 GMT
I have taken the plunge and bought a used table. it looks like a plain - so late one. it is nearly 37" wide and the 200 shot is well inside the corner when it used to be on the corner back in the day when the Tharp Arms had two of it's three Alfred Sams tables. it has coat hangers on the right hand side for the Ques to sit in.
Now I have a hundred things wrong with it and two hundred things to do to it if it is to be any good.
what is it? square legs with a chamfer down each leg each corner tapering out near to the top and bottom but unlike a Sams, it doesn't have that bulbous bit at the bottom. it has little info with it, just made in Mahogany and has a Sams (patent paid) money box. it has stickers on it for the 4-pin game.
first thing I noticed when setting up was that all the balls stopped on the edge of the pockets but after a day of use in a warm room and lots of brushing and hoovering it is a lot better.
it has a composite top - not a slate which appears to be true and straight. when checked from underneath. initially, the balls rolled terribly in towards the centre when running down the 'wings' outside the 50s, but again, it seems to have settled with a little adjustment to the legs.
Q1. the longest I can make a game is 9m 45s and the gate goes about 10 seconds before the times stops. the only way I could extend the game I THINK, is to slow the 'quiver' down with more weight to create more inertia. so how long should a game be and how CAN I make the game longer?
the front three holes have scarlet red rings that have a 2mm flat on the top which initially gives the impression that the ball is in but all it does is roll paste the corner. very disconcerting!
the back 6 rings are in a dark brown. all the hole sizes are the same.
the rubbers are old and dead which I LIKE along the top but dislike along the sides, the ball comes back at a rapid rate! Q3. should the table always be flat/horizontal?
Q4. does the table roll in because the cloth has a nap on the outside but is shall we say, 'balding' slightly infield or is the problem more serious?
there was a massive cracking noise as each ball came back, this was found to be the balls flying down to the stop board before dropping into their final resting spot. I knew what I wanted to use straight away and it works a treat and that is condensed seat foam that Motorcycle Roadracers use. now there is no noise and it will be very hard wearing.
I also made a secure 'H' frame for safe work under the table top rather than two wobbly legs.
I played my usual 4-pin with 3 pins which I enjoy anyway (no pin infront of the 100) and it is coming.
I need to order: Skittles, Baize, rubber side boarders, a 'D', some score numbers preferably in white as the gold is chipped and faded. I also need a red if anyone has one spare I can buy? a red please! I have no head board for the scores but there are the two holes where it once stood.
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Post by taffy on Nov 27, 2016 0:19:22 GMT
10. cool hand luke
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Post by taffy on Nov 25, 2016 23:57:32 GMT
Ha Ha! I've got bigger tits than her! She's OD'd on all this.
I enjoyed my game of 3-pins in the 4-pin game. it wasn't great. skittle infront of 200 and the 50s. shan't write home about it. next time I shall swop the value of the 50s and the 100 and see. maybe I'll secrete a 4th pin onto the table next time I'm out!
just a bit of fun that's all!
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Post by taffy on Nov 25, 2016 23:48:11 GMT
Hello Tommo
went to the Empress in Cambridge tonight. Supreme table still in use then 300M to The Earl of Beaconsfield which has a completely seperate room across a courtyard that is used as a library and hads a table still. can't say which make but an old one that is neglected with crisps, overstretched and torn at the pockets beize and the cups are 2mm below the surface. Ali and I played our first games of 3-pin in the Empress but played 3-pin 4 pin style at the Earl's. no skittle over the 100, 30 in the middle pocket.
on to The White Horse in Milton found two league players on the table there. challenged one to 3 pin and lost on the last ball decider and then did my 3-pin-4-pin style again with him and i won mine on the last ball. nice table!
the league was on the wall and all that are left are The White Horse Milton The Social Club, Six Mile Bottom The White Horse, Swavesey The Carpenter's Arms, Gt. Wilbraham
the Waggon & Horses in Milton has been an Italian Restaurant for 3-4 years.
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Post by taffy on Nov 25, 2016 15:37:18 GMT
I like diversity in that the best way forward can be seen and taken, I like advancement, to never stop improving etc.
I don't think the Nmkt & BSE rules or Sudbury for that matter (they are both very close) have a monopoly on the rules of the game. for 35 years I've watched people put 50p in the slot, pull the lever and ask what next. I've watched them hit the balls, they look capable, they look reasonably competent. in what other game was it critical what the cue ball did AFTER it had done its job? oh dear down goes a skittle.
they hit all their balls around the near-end area of the table-skittles fly....
they go down the bottom and don't hit 3/4 ball, a ball rolls onto the top cushion and back = no score. for them, the game is a mess! well that is how I started! it's how we all started!
until someone shows you how to hit the balls....then an obsession with getting better begins. it doesn't last long: lack of playing partners, mates not in for a drink today, conversation too good to break it up in an almost anti-social manner.
yeh, i think about it. I always did.....
I reckon taking the 100 skittle out to start and learn the game would be good enough.
the other thing is the pace needed, you cue too hard and the ball comes out of the pocket it just went in!
it's not rocket science, the best easydrop pockets, beize, etc.
let's pretend you made a table 'fair' fair would be: find a pocket, it goes down the skittle takes a nudge without falling the roll of the ball is consistent top to bottom get the points system right
get the phuqin scoreboard moved from the bottom of the table to a place on the wall next to the players.....
half the pubs, you can't get down the side without wrecking your mates next shot as you drop your 40" DD cups across the top of the table. (Ali's a bitch for that!) my game goes to pieces.....
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Post by taffy on Nov 25, 2016 0:39:13 GMT
well at least you seem to be able to discuss it all of you and well done to y'all for it.
not that any of you thunk a thought about rugby but have any of you noticed how congested a Rugby union game looks on the TV? ruck after ruck, no overlaps on the wing unless 25 phases have passed? well the won't look at de-congesting the 15 a side game with less players on the pitch. 13 men play 'League'....see what has happened? now we all have to be built like baboons and the grace has left the game. all because of the egos of a few sad people and that 2 sets of alikadoos will have to condense down into 1....tish! tish!
so all your prides will cometh before the fall.
why not ask a league to be an experimental league in the Summer and report back?
anyway, all just ideas. I have a different background that lends different ideas. I hope something is useful.
but can we have some more ideas about the 4 pin - even though I did get down to 3-pin myself there for a minute or two!
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Post by taffy on Nov 24, 2016 19:38:18 GMT
oh there's no harm in a bit of thinking is there!
your right Dave, the game has barely changed in 50 years - that's why your changing the tables.
all I'm doing is a bit of free thinking....
but of course if you don't ponder then fair enough....
I always ponder!
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Post by taffy on Nov 24, 2016 17:21:32 GMT
10-20-30-20-10
in the 4-pin game, the 100 hole is the second least used up the top end. the least used is of course the 200. which means, how would you get the 100 from the break shot? if the 30 hole (in the middle) is difficult Tommo I've been doing it wrong!
the 10 hole for 100 the 100 hole for 40? that means without the skittle there right? I'd want more than 40 if the skittle was there. the 100 hole is in the middle of nowhere and deserves points for an accurate pot.
if the break shot doesn't work or is negated, you want to get balls down the middle hole even if they have gone by it, this means using the back cushion, a typical 4-pin skill. the trouble is the 5 holes are placed wrong for this. the 20 is too close to the middle line....shame, but I've often wished there were just 4 holes down there or that the wide out 10's were nearer the side cushion or the holes were staggered in a slight 'W' but I guess the slate cracking might have something to do with it. the other one was to have the middle hole of the back 5 coming up nearer the 100 and worth little.
so 10, 20 where they are but 1/2" nearer the centreline and the middle 30 squeezed up towards the 100.
-10-20------20-10- --------30-------- - --------50-------- - -100----------100- - --------200-------
I'd like to see the 100 and 200 be a full part of the game.
back tto as is which is where I started: placing the Cue ball to the side of centre by up to 3". cue ball runs over the edge of the 200 hole diagonally through between 200 and 100, hits object ball off top cushion and back into the 100? I'll have to see if that can be done next time!
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Post by taffy on Nov 24, 2016 14:46:02 GMT
the topic means: 'what would you swap around and move to make 4-pin a more appealing game?'
I guess the parameters are: how long for, indeed, does it need to have a timer at all? where to put the 4 (more or less) pins where to and what to value the holes more or less balls whole D or not where to put the front spot how close to the holes for the skittles how broad the base of the skittles/mushrooms = how easy to knock over
I will start it forward spot moved forwards or backwards to stop the 'Eastbourne' shot don't lose your whole score for the 200 pin down - just the break. 200 chosen as last shot, don't lose anything - rest of break on the board, then go for it, any of the pins down - lose the break as normal two side holes worth 100 - not 50 100 hole worth 50 100 hole no pin protection, worth 50 break shot from the centre of the D all other shots 'anywhere' on the D 9 balls all holes, 'easydrop' skittles not mushrooms
over to you gentlemen? and yes that now makes 'my' game 3-pin.......
I of course can do this experiment myself very easily! in rugby union they have 'experimental' leagues. in the old amatuer days (pre '95) the two leagues were one in NZ and the other was Cambridge University Colleges (as in one v another). you played an experimental law for the season in that league and it got reviewed at the end of the season.
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Post by taffy on Nov 20, 2016 23:40:41 GMT
Ha-Ha Tommo! Ali's going as a strawberry blonde some 40 years too late (no you aren't allowed to ask a lady her age!) and if she won't hold the patent pink handbag then I will!
thanks to Dave for recommending these three, Dave? Dave????.
the only ones left in Dave's Sudbury league are the Haleigh Cock and the Edwardstone so you never know, we might get there again. Just also to mention that Ali and I have stuck to red at the rear but taken the scores off the tables. the first two tables today scored 3-pin across the top and the North St, Tavern was 4-pin 10-20-30-20-10. strange. I have to confess, the Supremes are getting to me. the bad ones are dead, the good ones aren't too bad at all. It just takes so much effort!
I shall try and get into The Bell Inn, Murrow just to say I've played there but in all honesty Tommo, The Black Bear with it's Alfred Sams table in Walsoken is all I need and the people are friendly. it's proper, PROPER pikey country so we won't be making eye contact with anyone but we should be OK? we can claim to be "Frankhams" (don't ask), we might be allowed to live.....
as for the South Holland thing well, have a look at a map and you'll see the A1101 crosses the Cambs line into Lincs at Tydd Gott. as you cross the bridge it says 'Welcome to South Holland'. Now look at the Gedney Hill Snookerette League and it is right there! I reckon Bourne might even be west of it near Stamford.
I tried to buy a table this weekend and I don't think it is far away still.....
Dave, how would you like to meet 3 of us one night in the Bay Horse and we can tell you all we remember of the Nmkt & BSE League? I know you played in it but we should be able shed quite a bit of light on a few things. bring a pen and paper.....
Dave?
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Post by taffy on Nov 20, 2016 19:12:03 GMT
on a miserable cold and wet Sunday, I got Ali to agree to our second visit to Sudbury, I know she was OD'ing on it by now and she did a few upright shots and she only had one pace of shot and you know what that was!
we went to The Brook at Gt. Cornard first, a sad little pub really but with a 'Supreme' tucked neatly away in the corner. the Cues were 15mm and flat-tipped but the table ran straight and true. we had two reasonably good games on it. Interestingly, in the corner was a runners up sheild/trophy for the Sudbury League being second the last time it appears to have been run in 1993. The sheild was the inter-region 4-pin and dated from about 1980 as I recall with 'South Holland' winning it for 5/6 at the beginning and other winners were 'Sudbury' and Newmarket....noi mention of BSE there at all! I think the year was about 1989 approx and I was playing then and uit sure as hell was the Nmkt & BSE League. I think that there was one other winner on it but I have forgotten!
we then went 0.5 miles back into Sudbury to 'The Five Bells' where we found a nonm-league team with an Alfred Sams table....happiness! But that wasn't all, get this - it uses SKITTLES woohoo!
the table was proudly laid out right in the middle of the pub for asll to see AND it was the first Sudbury 50p game! the table was a little uneven due to being threadbare but we didn't have to chase our shots too hard. they rolled gently to the pocket and they gently fell in!
Ali, who won't be told anything by 'The Master' was still making elementary mistakes but enjoying it. she finished the second game with a diagonal 200 and the other ball in the 50 for a 250 finish and a cheer from the pub - they'd all been watching!
so 8/10 for the Brook 9/10 for the 5 bells
on to the last today and that was the North Street Tavern just 200m from 'The Bay Horse'!. this was another Supreme and what a piece of shit it was....If you belted them, they stopped short so you belted them harder and they still stopped at the entrance to the mouth due to some turn up in the felt underlay. when they did go in, they spun 8-times and came out again.
we had two torrid games abd 1,500 was my best score. Ali lost the will to live and I had to do something quickly, i could have gone for a safe game of pool or over to 'The Bay Horse' but we were hungry and so headed for home. She was in quite a state and needed tranquilisers that we normally save for the Giraffe, administering them was done by drawing her attention to a book on 15th Century Churches in Suffolk and she hardly felt a thing....
A bad Supreme is bloody horrible, but we found a nice way of passing another wet Sunday.
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Post by taffy on Nov 19, 2016 11:13:55 GMT
went to the Black Bear at Walsoken again last night. AFTER I'd been to Lynn to look at a non-descript table. the table appears to be a pre-war Jelkes 37" with round legs but the recent owners have been thugs. all the cups are bakolite but are 3mm down the holes. table played Ok but the petina was brutal in places. wants lots of work!
at the BB we met the Landlord who was gobsmacked that we would come from Soham for a game: "ah it's the Alfred Sams table" I said. he has just sold a restaurant he owns in Wisbech and is now concentrating on the Black Bear. place was heaving. His Pub and the restaurant sponsor the snookerette League (I know, you thought I was waffling....well I was but...LOL!), so maybe the Pub-Sponsor-League isn't doing so badly!
Ali put away some lovely shots, some 200s off the top. when I told her about the Eastbourne break she just said: "boring". she is of course right, and I'm afraid it makes 4-pin as dull as 3-pin if this happened all the time. for mere mortals it isn't a problem though and it is a shot of great skill when done and you get a real sense of achievement.
I did a 'new years eve cruise' to Jersey for three years on the trot (or does that make it 4), arriving on Jersey shitfaced at 6am I went in the nearest pub for a 'hairofthedog' and saw a bar billiard table, I offered someone a game and got right royally stuffed mainly because I couldn't stand up. so he put £20 down for a second game and do you know what...I SOBERED UP... I smashed him. took his £20. can I just thank Messrs Smirnov and Angers & Stewart for their part in my victory!
I'll tell you what Tommo, I've already told you the best 2-3 bloody good stories about Bar Billiards you'll ever hear I do know! LOL!!!!!
Don't be surprised if I don't do something quite dramatic Tommo with regards BB in my manor. you never know!
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Post by taffy on Nov 18, 2016 17:13:21 GMT
Nice one Tommo but I like easy drop. once round the top and the skittle is over so if you were lucky the easydrops grabbed the ball before it got round to the skittle.
question: how can the easy drop make the game easier? i mean, the ball is either going in, or it isn't and a wobbling ball is dead time to anyone!
i think delicate skittles are just what the eastbourne lot need at sudbury next march!!!! I'll bring a set, upset dave! LOL!!!!
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Post by taffy on Nov 18, 2016 14:20:06 GMT
interesting! you can of course work on changing a wide table to somewhat narrower i presume.
you should play the Newmarket shot: you get all the skittles all at once!
I get the feeling that more effort should be made to run skittles on a wide table as there are so many out there and see just how brutal people really think they can be to them.
in my day, a ball running around the mouth knocked skittle over so you had to reduce the speed and hope that a ball that caught a mouth disappeared downwards quickly. and most good tables had those 4 'breakers' that killed the ball fast. we were as often pleased with them so that we could get the red back ASAP!!!!
while appreciate where all this is going - and logically with the sudbury set up it is only one area and happens to be the one that survived! my league didn't! history is written by the victor-blah! blah!
but my point to you was and is that the Nmkt & BSE league was whatever age and it went like this wide tables eastbourne shot delicate skittles close to the holes can't nudge them so much - lose your break breakers in the mouth of pocket so it is possible to wobble one but not 'run around the rim' lose your bottle leave one up - or two! suddenly it takes 2-3 minutes to clear the top and get the eastbourne shot going again!
with balls on the table and on the wrong side of the 50 the top board becomes useful to get them from the other direction. nice gaps between the top 5 holes helpes this suddenly a reverse 100 and 200 are good scorers.
now this is another way of getting to the same place as the narrow tables. THAT is all I'm saying. weird how I'd only ever seen mushrooms on a 3-pin table yet the two are perceived as the other way around? BTW, skittles don't break? they aren't delicate....perhaps i misunderstood you?
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Post by taffy on Nov 18, 2016 9:08:06 GMT
Hi Taffy, Good to read of your return to Wisbech and that you were able to enjoy some 4-Pin and even challenge one of the locals. The game can only benefit from someone with your enthusiasm and by entering the East Anglian Open you will meet others of the same ilk - i.e who are not afraid to go for their shots ! Another adventure you may wish to consider some time is a foray westwards into Wellingborough. Here there is a 4-Pin enclave surrounded by the remainder of Northants which is 3-Pin territory. You may find the tables there a bit more of a challenge, though, as from the pictures we've seen they are longer and narrower. tommo Hello Tommo from what I can understand, a long narrow table ruins the 3 pin break or Oxford shot etc right? but what about skittles instead of mushrooms? surely during this oxford break, one of the 2-4-6-8 balls is going to knock a lightweight skittle over? I found that sudbury use Mushrooms yet my league was just north at B.S.E and yet we were on skittles with the red at the back as cue ball. the wisbech league is on skittles and it is meant to be an old league...... it's just that I love the wide table for the use of the balls coming out of the top BACK up the table. but I'm getting the picture that the 3-pin boys have just transferred their game straight over to the 4-pin game because the wide table is still the right shape. I was going to buy a table this weekend and get it 36-37" wide but now panic is setting in. the beauty of the 4 pin game is that you can do the oxford break for so long but after that it is a devil to get two balls down at once in order to start the break shot again. its the variety.... regards Taffy
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Post by taffy on Nov 14, 2016 17:30:13 GMT
How interesting Tommo..... very similar to the Nmkt & BSE league and pleased to see them as better than the Wisbech league. so the N & B league was right next door to the Sudbury League and yet there were different rules for both.
The rules are nearly identical, just the swopping of the red and white when cueing off and also these mushrooms v skittles, we had no mushrooms just skittles and they would fall over so easily. I prefer skittles, the pace has to be j-u-s-t right. Everything is better about the Sudbury rules bar none compared to the wisbech ones!
They may have had the same rules 20 years ago and somebody put a great deal of thought into the cue balls movements as compared the object ball.
the games in safe hands!
regards
Taffy
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