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Post by gandalf the untidy on Nov 25, 2011 23:10:29 GMT
Hi Hastings bb fans, Attached is the latest averages which has knocked Mr Southouse off his perch by his buddy Mr Harmer Regards Bo. Hi Ozzie Senior Glad to see you are mastering the beast and posting here, keep up the good work. I have plenty of other perches from where to preach ;D Hope the Harmster carries the Hastings flag with honour ;) looks like there are a few other pretenders with a little more focus on the title now, which can only improve the standing of Hastings in Sussex. regs cs
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Nov 26, 2011 4:51:21 GMT
Hi Mike, Just for your information the game that you lost was the one that you did not turn up to and Roy Harmer claimed a walk over. Regards BO Thats a little harsh that counts against me, as I was never meant to be turning up that week. I should never have even been in the draw as I was working til 1am the next morning. Oh well. 8-)
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Nov 26, 2011 20:38:57 GMT
Hi Mike, Just for your information the game that you lost was the one that you did not turn up to and Roy Harmer claimed a walk over. Regards BO Thats a little harsh that counts against me, as I was never meant to be turning up that week. I should never have even been in the draw as I was working til 1am the next morning. Oh well. 8-) hi Mikedaw looks a bit harsh to me too, and its probably reduced your and roys average as well, probably worth catching Ozzie senior for a chat next time you meet.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Nov 26, 2011 20:52:45 GMT
Hi Mike, Just for your information the game that you lost was the one that you did not turn up to and Roy Harmer claimed a walk over. Regards BO Hi Bob Great to finally see you on here....can I ask what the numbers mean on the left hand side (first column)? Hi Sandy I think they were projected final average positions!!!! ;D
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Dec 1, 2011 9:13:58 GMT
Hi there, here are the match results from last nights match: Courthouse A vs Courthouse B Dave Stapley 1,380 : 3,800 Phil Lambourne John Wond 3,860 : 2,190 Denis Cole Lewis Wond 850 : 12,380 Mike Daw Riza Rizai 1,300 : 3,070 Nick Speight Lee Brock 3,610 : 5,050 Gary Lynch
Courthouse B win 4:1
A good evening with the A team. I would like to say well done Gary Lynch, only playing his third game in ten years came in and did a great job for us last night rolling back the years with a classic Sussex style break of 3810 to beat Lee Brock. Elsewhere we had a break of 11,210 from myself. Pitty the bar went, although the back was starting to ache. lol.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Dec 1, 2011 13:23:17 GMT
Hi there, here are the match results from last nights match: 12,380 Mike Daw Hi Mikedaw1985 affraid the untidy one just topped your score yesterday ;D ;D ;D cant wait to see what the Harmster did. Have given my contact details to nick to arrange our singls, please remind him for me regs cs
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Dec 2, 2011 22:17:44 GMT
Indeed I saw that you had just topped my score. Also adding 2 3000 breaks to your tally for the season. Yes next time I see Nick I'll attempt to let him know your keen on getting your match sorted. Although it may not make too much difference knowing Nick. lol.
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Post by SandyH on Dec 6, 2011 19:44:19 GMT
Apologies for the rather late post
Well we did play at the OKJ...that answers your question Colin ;D
OKJ v Ash B
A.Eldridge 4170 M.Osborne 5980 M.Bailey 1950 R.Young 1270 A.Ellison 2790 C.Sexton 1460 N.Doe 2790 S.Harmer 4070 C.Lamb 1250 R.Harmer 6240
2000 Breaks A.Eldridge x 1
OKJ 2 Ash B 3
A great win on an always difficult top, as always uphill but did play the best for some time, but with the pace of the top always made it difficult getting a high break (well thats dad's excuse for not getting a 3k break ;) )
A welcome return to Andy Eldridge (ex Manor) started very well but Mick got the better of him but a great game to watch.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Dec 7, 2011 18:41:54 GMT
Apologies for the rather late post OKJ v Ash B A.Eldridge 4170 M.Osborne 5980 M.Bailey 1950 R.Young 1270 A.Ellison 2790 C.Sexton 1460 N.Doe 2790 S.Harmer 4070 C.Lamb 1250 R.Harmer 6240 A great win on an always difficult top, as always uphill but did play the best for some time, but with the pace of the top always made it difficult getting a high break (well thats dad's excuse for not getting a 3k break ;) ) A welcome return to Andy Eldridge (ex Manor) started very well but Mick got the better of him but a great game to watch. a few respectable scores here nice to see regs cs
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Dec 9, 2011 9:02:03 GMT
Hi there, here are the match results from 07/12/2011: Courthouse B vs OKJ Gary Lynch 1,090 : 2,720 Andy Eldridge Nick Speight 1,610 : 4,080 Chris Lamb Phil Lambourne 1,850 : 5,880 Nigel Doe Denis Cole 7,660 : 510 Gary Tomlin Mike Daw 8,610 : 4,710 Graham Dean
OKJ win 3:2
Well done to the OKJ, a deserved win. The table was a bit more difficult this evening as the table had a slight left hand drift. Although over the evening the table did seem to improve as we did have some good breaks, the highlight being Denis cole's 6,030. There were also two other breaks of over 3K for Graham Dean with 4,710 and myself with a 4,000.
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Post by recklessrat on Dec 14, 2011 12:59:34 GMT
Do we have an updated league table available yet, plus the official cup draw details?
I'm pretty sure that my team, the Anchor, is pretty much anchored (pun intended) to the foot of the table, but it would be nice to know how the rest of the teams are doing.
I'm really enjoying the atmosphere at the games, but being stood there watching someone who has been playing for many years racking up multi-thousand point breaks can sometimes get a bit tedious. We are a relatively new set of players, apart from our Andrew, and if we had some more beginner teams in the league we would stand a slight a chance...we are improving but there is no substitue for 40 odd years playing experience. Maybe next year the senior teams could enter some separate "colts" (played for less than 2 years) C teams just to liven things up!
Looking forward to our Cup match at the Anchor tonight, the Nags Head A return! We will hope to improve on last weeks league defeat to them which was 2 to 3, not even our wonky table could keep me in with a hope in the last game.
Regards,
Ray ;D
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Dec 14, 2011 18:38:00 GMT
HI RECKLESSRAT
great to see some more Hastings posters, just to say a big welcome to all new players in any league, remember we all started as you have, and its always daunting playing who you think is a better player from time to time, but all you have to do is play and learn the table better than your opponent and also remember no one wins or loses forever.
Its always worth watching and learning how other players play the various shots and then practice them as often as you can.
You probably know this already, so won't preach anymore
good luck
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Dec 15, 2011 0:40:13 GMT
Do we have an updated league table available yet, plus the official cup draw details? I'm pretty sure that my team, the Anchor, is pretty much anchored (pun intended) to the foot of the table, but it would be nice to know how the rest of the teams are doing. I'm really enjoying the atmosphere at the games, but being stood there watching someone who has been playing for many years racking up multi-thousand point breaks can sometimes get a bit tedious. We are a relatively new set of players, apart from our Andrew, and if we had some more beginner teams in the league we would stand a slight a chance...we are improving but there is no substitue for 40 odd years playing experience. Maybe next year the senior teams could enter some separate "colts" (played for less than 2 years) C teams just to liven things up! Looking forward to our Cup match at the Anchor tonight, the Nags Head A return! We will hope to improve on last weeks league defeat to them which was 2 to 3, not even our wonky table could keep me in with a hope in the last game. Regards, Ray ;D Sounds like a handycap system might be in order ;)
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Dec 16, 2011 10:31:23 GMT
An interesting suggestion, but how would we implement it? Would we do it for the whole league or just for new entrants or those who have played less than two seasons. Players or teams?
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Dec 16, 2011 10:42:21 GMT
HI RECKLESSRAT great to see some more Hastings posters, just to say a big welcome to all new players in any league, remember we all started as you have, and its always daunting playing who you think is a better player from time to time, but all you have to do is play and learn the table better than your opponent and also remember no one wins or loses forever. Its always worth watching and learning how other players play the various shots and then practice them as often as you can. You probably know this already, so won't preach anymore good luck regs cs Again I'd like to echo what Colin has said. We love having new teams in the league as it brings a better atmosphere as we see different faces each week rather than the same people. Also it brings hope that we can still have something worth calling a league. A few years ago we were really struggling for teams and were nearly down to just four teams. I remember first starting and there were so many players better than myself. I was lucky that I was able to practice at that time with players like my dad and John Luck at The Bull Inn (when it had a table). We usually had a pretty good table which enabled me to play good shots and get the proper rewards, i.e balls not constantly ringing out of holes after playing a good shot. I learnt a lot by just watching them playing eachother and then trying to play shots I had seen them play when playing against my brother who was also learning at the time. Practice really is the key.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Dec 16, 2011 15:31:51 GMT
An interesting suggestion, but how would we implement it? Would we do it for the whole league or just for new entrants or those who have played less than two seasons. Players or teams? Hi Mikedaw1985 Each player starts with the others average score and normal match rules apply, Eastbourne run a handicap competition the Sunday preceding finals night. it gives all a reasonably even chance of a win, we have found that some with questionable ethics deliberately knock the black down during the season once they know the match is lost to reduce their player average specifically for this competition, I'm very pleased to report that none of these players has ever won, i can say that I've won with the top average and I've also come last. Still good fun though, would be difficult to implement in a league format but not impossible and i would be all in favour of the change, however this would make the stats men have nightmares and it would not be easy to decide on representative match teams and you would probably have to adjust player averages regularly. regs cs
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Dec 16, 2011 15:43:30 GMT
Indeed I saw that you had just topped my score. Also adding 2 3000 breaks to your tally for the season. Yes next time I see Nick I'll attempt to let him know your keen on getting your match sorted. Although it may not make too much difference knowing Nick. lol. Perhaps we should record all the 3k+ breaks that we lose, i'll win that for sure ;D regs cs
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2011 16:19:41 GMT
Simplest way for a first-off attempt at handicapping would be to have a Division between the league and the 'premier teams' concede all five breaks whenever they play one of the 'lowlier' teams.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Dec 23, 2011 8:42:21 GMT
Do we have an updated league table available yet, plus the official cup draw details? I'm pretty sure that my team, the Anchor, is pretty much anchored (pun intended) to the foot of the table, but it would be nice to know how the rest of the teams are doing. I'm really enjoying the atmosphere at the games, but being stood there watching someone who has been playing for many years racking up multi-thousand point breaks can sometimes get a bit tedious. We are a relatively new set of players, apart from our Andrew, and if we had some more beginner teams in the league we would stand a slight a chance...we are improving but there is no substitue for 40 odd years playing experience. Maybe next year the senior teams could enter some separate "colts" (played for less than 2 years) C teams just to liven things up! Looking forward to our Cup match at the Anchor tonight, the Nags Head A return! We will hope to improve on last weeks league defeat to them which was 2 to 3, not even our wonky table could keep me in with a hope in the last game. Regards, Ray ;D Hi restlessrat current league table if you've not seen it yet regs cs HASTINGS & BEXHILL BAR BILLIARDS LEAGUE TEAM PLAYED WON DRAWN LOST FOR AGAINST TOTAL ASHBURNHAM A 8 7 0 1 58 22 72 ASHBURNHAM B 8 7 0 1 56 24 70 COURTHOUSE B 8 5 0 3 54 26 64 OLD KING JOHN 8 6 0 2 50 30 62 PLOUGH INN 8 4 0 4 44 36 52 COURTHOUSE A 8 3 0 5 36 44 42 NAGS HEAD A 8 3 0 5 26 54 30 NAGS HEAD B 8` 1` 0` 7` 22` 58` 24` ANCHOR INN 8` 0` 0` 8` 16 64` 16` HIGHEST AWAY BREAK MIKE DAW 8320 HIGHEST HOME BREAK " " 11210 " NUMBER 3000s M DAW 7 8` " " 2000s A EDRIDGE 1`
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Jan 19, 2012 6:55:22 GMT
Hi there, here are the match results from 18/01/2012,
Ron Young 2720:2450 Phil Lambourne Sandi Harmer 6020:3290 Denis Cole Roy Harmer 3650:9100 Mike Daw Chris Sexton 7280:850 Nick Speight Mick Osbourne 5270:5160 Tony Gates
ASH B 4:1 Courthouse B
well done Ash B, a well deserved victory. Well done to Chris Sexton, that was the best I've ever seen him play and I hope he continues his form. Also game 5 came down to the last ball in what was a very close game and a good game to watch. In game 3 I scored the highest away break of the season with 8470 beating my previous score of 8320. Also 3000 breaks for Roy Harmer, Sandi Harmer and Chris Sexton.
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Post by SandyH on Jan 19, 2012 10:15:18 GMT
Hi there, here are the match results from 18/01/2012, Ron Young 2720:2450 Phil Lambourne Sandi Harmer 6020:3290 Denis Cole Roy Harmer 3650:9100 Mike Daw Chris Sexton 7280:850 Nick Speight Mick Osbourne 5270:5160 Tony Gates ASH B 4:1 Courthouse B well done Ash B, a well deserved victory. Well done to Chris Sexton, that was the best I've ever seen him play and I hope he continues his form. Also game 5 came down to the last ball in what was a very close game and a good game to watch. In game 3 I scored the highest away break of the season with 8470 beating my previous score of 8320. Also 3000 breaks for Roy Harmer, Sandi Harmer and Chris Sexton. Was a good evening with the courthouse crowd. Table played well and some good games, Chris Sexton playing a blinder the best I've ever seen him play and beating his pb. Mick and tony played a great game, neither player deserved to lose. Mike, how many years have we known each other and you still get my name wrong haha!
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jan 19, 2012 10:28:58 GMT
Hi there, here are the match results from 18/01/2012, Ron Young 2720:2450 Phil Lambourne Sandi Harmer 6020:3290 Denis Cole Roy Harmer 3650:9100 Mike Daw Chris Sexton 7280:850 Nick Speight Mick Osbourne 5270:5160 Tony Gates ASH B 4:1 Courthouse B well done Ash B, a well deserved victory. Well done to Chris Sexton, that was the best I've ever seen him play and I hope he continues his form. Also game 5 came down to the last ball in what was a very close game and a good game to watch. In game 3 I scored the highest away break of the season with 8470 beating my previous score of 8320. Also 3000 breaks for Roy Harmer, Sandi Harmer and Chris Sexton. Was a good evening with the courthouse crowd. Table played well and some good games, Chris Sexton playing a blinder the best I've ever seen him play and beating his pb. Mick and tony played a great game, neither player deserved to lose. Mike, how many years have we known each other and you still get my name wrong haha! I'm sure theres a "y" in it somewhere... Sandi Haymer? ;D
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Jan 19, 2012 21:06:46 GMT
lol. How about Sandiy. Sorry mate, next time.
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Post by mikedaw1985 on Jan 19, 2012 21:11:14 GMT
Also while I'm here, my entry for the Oxfordshire open is now in and it would be good if maybe a few more from our league could join myself, Ozzie and Ozzie Snr on saturday 18th feb.
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Post by recklessrat on Jan 20, 2012 13:05:54 GMT
The Anchor had another hardfought 4-1 loss at the OKJ last night, excellent atmosphere and good banter. We would probably play better if our table was as even as the OKJ table, there is no way to play a slow trickle shot at home! Looking forward to Nags head B at our place next week, should be a close game.
Regarding the Handicap issue, allowing the newer teams to have the break in all frames would be of little benefit as only the more experienced / serious players can manage the 3 consequetive breaks and then one ball up trick, and many of those fail to achieve this on our wonky table. Maybe a points advantage based on the players average would make the games closer.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jan 20, 2012 16:15:40 GMT
The Anchor had another hardfought 4-1 loss at the OKJ last night, excellent atmosphere and good banter. We would probably play better if our table was as even as the OKJ table, there is no way to play a slow trickle shot at home! Looking forward to Nags head B at our place next week, should be a close game. Regarding the Handicap issue, allowing the newer teams to have the break in all frames would be of little benefit as only the more experienced / serious players can manage the 3 consequetive breaks and then one ball up trick, and many of those fail to achieve this on our wonky table. Maybe a points advantage based on the players average would make the games closer. Hi Recklessrat I am happy to attempt to level your table if you are unable to or the supplier cant do it and don't forget that there is nothing in the hastings rules which stops the home team from practicing on match night or other nights, being more familiar with your table than your opponents is crucial for beginners. Good Luck regs cs
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Post by recklessrat on Jan 24, 2012 11:10:04 GMT
Our resident expert player, Andrew Lipscomb, has attempted to level the table on many occasions. It seems to be level then will move away from the middle to both sides on occasions, or generally drifts on slower shots. We also suspect that the location of the table, in one of the oldest pubs in the old town on the probably wonky floor boards and also probably too close to the open fire are all factors with the uncertainty when playing slower shots.
Having said that at least for our home matches we don't get beaten by as much as we would be on a perfectly flat table, which the asburnham and courthouse appear to have, but I would imagine that many tables have their own foibles.
We tend to practice on Fridays after 9:30, so if you'd like to call in when we are there, or when we are playing at home next (this wednesday for instance) then we can have a chat!
Many thanks,
Ray
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Feb 2, 2012 14:05:17 GMT
Hi Hastings BB Fans
Hastings league meeting reminder.
Following the AGM last, the committee have arranged an end of season meeting (Not an AGM) for 28th March at the Nags Head at 8.00pm
All registered players are invited to attend, with a minimum of 1 representative per team
Discussion to take place on
Accounts, finance and subsciptions for the following summer and winter league teams Trophies League format if team numbers change
Should members wish to include a spacific item for the agenda, please contact our chairman Bob Osbourne
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Post by ozzie on Feb 4, 2012 9:03:23 GMT
Sorry to disappoint you Gandalf but your highest away break only must have lasted minutes with Ozzie senior taking the spoils to date. Nags Head B V Ashburnham A Played 01st February 2012. Dave Pearce 690 Vic Hibbin 2290 Glenn Davis 1140 Dave White 3310 Glenn Dunwell 440 Bob Osborne 12310 Lisa Woodall 830 Mick Caister 2820 Debbie Rowan 280 Phil Osborne 4310
Ash win 5-o Bob Osborne away break 11640.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Feb 4, 2012 9:17:32 GMT
Sorry to disappoint you Gandalf but your highest away break only must have lasted minutes with Ozzie senior taking the spoils to date. Nags Head B V Ashburnham A Played 01st February 2012. Dave Pearce 690 Vic Hibbin 2290 Glenn Davis 1140 Dave White 3310 Glenn Dunwell 440 Bob Osborne 12310 Lisa Woodall 830 Mick Caister 2820 Debbie Rowan 280 Phil Osborne 4310 Ash win 5-o Bob Osborne away break 11640. Hi ozzie, nice to see you back on the boards, As he got it in game three i unfortunately never had it, all credit to Ozzie senior, its about time he kept a high break ;D, he's been tipped as quarter finalist in Oxon open, perhaps it might be worth a flutter on the old fella ;D PS looks like my impromptu training session after our last nags head match was not too successful!!! :'( regs cs
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