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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2006 21:58:06 GMT
Our dear friend and all-round good egg D.C. (Dave Constable) is the new Mens County Singles Champion of Surrey, coming through a field of 16 entrants. He beat Colin Robbins in the final.
Four tables of excellent quality had been installed in the Limes, Merstham, and good early form was particularly shown by Tony Cross with several scores of 10000-plus.
A brief summary (without scores) as follows :
Group A. 1st- D.Constable; 2nd- L.Roberts; 3rd- V.Sparkes; 4th- Keith Wilkinson. Group B. 1st- C.Robbins; 2nd- R.Plaw; 3rd- P.Smither; 4th- G.Holman. Group C. 1st- G.Powell; 2nd- P.Reece; 3rd- M.Greenaway; 4th- I.Mountain. Group D. 1st- A.Cross; 2nd- G.Jukes; 3rd- C.Thompson; 4th- J.Wadsworth.
Quarter-finals: Robbins bt Roberts; Jukes bt Powell; Cross bt Reece; Constable bt Plaw.
Semi-finals (Plate): Smither bt Sparkes;Thompson bt Greenaway (Main): Constable bt Cross; Robbins bt Jukes
Finals (Plate): Thompson bt Smither (Main): CONSTABLE bt ROBBINS.
An excellent day, great pub, great food, great company. And D.C. was almost the recipient of an extra special reward, allegedly, but apparently there were too many people looking !
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Post by Kevin Pringle (R.I.P.) on Jul 23, 2006 22:10:57 GMT
Congrats to Dave (don't personally know him) and to you Clive for the Plate win. Thx for the report Clive.
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 23, 2006 22:23:03 GMT
Congrats to Dave (don't personally know him) Well I'm gobsmacked, there's someone in bar billiards land that doesn't know DC!! Chroist, you've led a sheltered life KP. Have you ever played spoons?? ;D Well done DC BTW, I'll see you at Reading 8-)
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Post by Kevin Pringle (R.I.P.) on Jul 23, 2006 22:38:18 GMT
Probably know him by sight, but never knew his name :D
I have 'spooned' is that the same ;)
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Post by NigelS on Jul 23, 2006 22:49:02 GMT
Well done DC - to win a county singles is a great acheivment
Hope to see you in Reading for the All England Finals
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Post by Josie on Jan 24, 2007 16:22:19 GMT
Hey DC well done. (Tommo - has he joined us yet????)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2007 16:42:38 GMT
This news was a bit "old hat" but I thought I'd transfer it over (with my new powers ;D ;) ) as it belongs to us.
I've spoken to DC on several occasions and he has registered an interest to join in: With his sense of fun he'll be a huge asset. I can still see him now, setting light to David May's beer towel (which dangles from his pocket) at Reading. And just before it caught, he blow it out gently, which enveloped David in a pall of white smoke. ;D Is there is a bigger practical joker on the planet ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2007 6:53:10 GMT
.............or rather, hail the new King, and the new Queen of Surrey Bar Billiards. 8-) 8-) And it is with a great sense of pride that I have to announce that the new Surrey Mens Champion and the Surrey Ladies Champion are none other than my South Park 'B' teammates - well known to this Forum - the BB Reaper and Josie.
Coming through a field of 16 entrants, the Reaper eased through his group, beat the last year's runner-up Colin Robbins in the Semi-final and then edged a close Final against the 2005 winner and England International Geoff Jukes.
For her part, Josie also breezed through her group and then beat Shuana Nicholls in the Semi-final. Facing tough opposition in the form of Denise Wills in the Final, josie led 7k-1k in the first leg and then defended the margin well in the second leg to win the crown.
A brief summary (without scores) as follows : Mens County Singles Group A. 1st- K.Hall; 2nd- F.Doyle; 3rd- I.Mountain; 4th- D.Jones. Group B. 1st- G.Jukes; 2nd- G.Powell; 3rd- V.Sparkes; 4th- C.Thompson. Group C. 1st- D.Constable; 2nd- P.Smither; 3rd= L.Roberts; 3rd= P.Reece. Group D. 1st- C.Robbins; 2nd= J.Wadsworth; 2nd=J.Greenstead; 2nd= R.Plaw.
Semi-finals: Kevin Hall bt Colin Robbins; Geoff Jukes bt Dave Constable.
Final: K.HALL bt G.JUKES
Ladies County Singles Group A. 1st- Josie Pitt; 2nd- Genette Nicholls; 3rd- Carolyne Jones; 4th- Angie Turner. Group B. 1st- Denise Wills; 2nd- Fiona Doyle; scratched :Sheila King; Rebecca Greenaway. Group C. 1st- Claire McKee; 2nd- Shuana Nicholls; 3rd- Bobbie Davis; 4th- Trish Wadsworth.
Semi-finals: Josie Pitt bt Shuana Nicholls; Denise Wills bt Claire McKee.
Final: J.PITT bt D.WILLS
An excellent day, great pub, great food, great company. And C.T. was almost the recipient of an extra special reward, that DC missed out on last year, allegedly ! :o :P
Oh and thanks to Brian Daniels and Tony Webster for supplying the (as usual) excellent tables. 8-)
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Jul 2, 2007 7:50:12 GMT
Very well done to you Josie you played like a true Champ.
A Great day at the Limes, with some very good Bar Billiards and Food.
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Post by bigtj on Jul 2, 2007 8:37:28 GMT
Well done to DC, BBREAPER and JOSIE on your respective achievements at the weekend.
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Post by NigelS on Jul 2, 2007 8:38:04 GMT
Well done to both Kev and Josie
Hope to see you both representing Surrey in the All England Singles in the Autumn
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Post by Josie on Jul 2, 2007 9:42:26 GMT
WOW! I still can't believe it! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks very much everybody. And BBR - you should have been wearing Tommos T-shirt - you really were the Dogs B*ll*cks yesterday!!!!! :) Very well done to you as well, from one champ to another!!! :P
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Post by SirKT on Jul 2, 2007 12:15:09 GMT
Well done again Kev and also to Josie. I had running reports yesterday afternoon as to the state of play, so knew Kev was going well.
So the Three Horseshoes, Lancing in the Worthing league, has 2 County champions in the team ;) ;)
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Jul 2, 2007 13:58:37 GMT
Well done to both Kev and Josie Hope to see you both representing Surrey in the All England Singles in the Autumn Thankyou Nigel but unfortunatly what i have herd today was that it is the mens singles and ladies singles finalist that will be representing surrey. so am not sure what the idea of holding the surrey county singles is all about? I am a little gutted if this is true. I cant complain too much tho, Surrey County Champ at first attempt.
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Post by NigelS on Jul 2, 2007 14:32:09 GMT
Thankyou Nigel but unfortunatly what i have herd today was that it is the mens singles and ladies singles finalist that will be representing surrey. so am not sure what the idea of holding the surrey county singles is all about? I am a little gutted if this is true. I cant complain too much tho, Surrey County Champ at first attempt. Yes Josie told me this may be the case. I believe that the spirit of the All England Singles is that the county champions of the year all play off to arrive at the National Champion. However, Sav can correct me here if I am wrong, the rule is that it is up to individual counties to decide how they select their representatives for the All England Singles. Agree that it seems a bit pointless to hold a county singles if there is no reward of representing your county at the end of it. If it is the Redhill Singles Champions that are chosen, it seems a bit wrong, as county comps are obviously a level up from local league comps. Anyway still well done Kev, BTW if you are asked to represent either Sussex or Surrey in the future where does your allegiance lie?
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Post by SirKT on Jul 2, 2007 15:45:53 GMT
I also find that very strange Nigel. Oxon have run a County singles for a number of years, it used to be run on neutral tables but is now played as a one day competition. Before that, the 4 Oxon leagues put forward their League singles winners to play a round robin competition to find a representative. To be called County champion and not represent the County in the AE Singles later in the year seems odd, as you say, what`s the point in having a county singles? ???
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Post by mickthehammer on Jul 2, 2007 17:17:20 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]Fantastic[/glow]Well done sweetheart!!! Yeay!! Super result for you and at last we can start re-filling that trophy cabinet with winners trophies!And a well done to you too BBR great achievement. [glow=blue,2,300]Well done to you both.[/glow]
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Jul 2, 2007 22:39:24 GMT
Anyway still well done Kev, BTW if you are asked to represent either Sussex or Surrey in the future where does your allegiance lie? That is a good question!!! I shall try to answer this without living my self in the s*** so i end up with neither opertunity but I am Sussex born and bred so would obviously play for Sussex if asked, but if not asked by Sussex but by Surrey i would play for them!!! That why i enterd the Surrey County singles to represent Surrey.
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Post by Martin Pellett on Jul 5, 2007 9:57:32 GMT
Surrey has always sent the open singles and ladies singles champions as they have only one league and the open and ladies singles are the hardest comps to win, the county singles have not been played consistently over the years and have mainly been used to asses players for the county team.
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Jul 5, 2007 10:27:50 GMT
So Martin does that mean i will get asked to play in the county side?
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Post by Martin Pellett on Jul 5, 2007 13:02:28 GMT
BB, thats up to the county Sec/selectors, but if you perform well in comps and league you may well get a call
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Post by iang on Jul 5, 2007 20:54:57 GMT
Sorry not been around for a few days so only just read this. MASSIVE WELL DONE to the BBR & Josie. I take my hat off to both of you. :) :) Ian
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2007 8:23:27 GMT
Yes Josie told me this may be the case. I believe that the spirit of the All England Singles is that the county champions of the year all play off to arrive at the National Champion. However, Sav can correct me here if I am wrong, the rule is that it is up to individual counties to decide how they select their representatives for the All England Singles. Agree that it seems a bit pointless to hold a county singles if there is no reward of representing your county at the end of it. If it is the Redhill Singles Champions that are chosen, it seems a bit wrong, as county comps are obviously a level up from local league comps. I must say that I agree with your sentiment, Nigel. It is a shock to me, and a very cock-eyed way of doing things. I disagree with the view put forward by someone else that the Redhill singles is "more difficult to win." : along the way to the final you may have had an easy draw. Not so with the County Singles, participation is by invitation only and it's the top 16 from the Player of the Year table, so to win you have to overcome five good players on the way. Possibly how this has come about is that three years ago the County singles over-ran and we had only got to the semi-final stage by 11pm: it was never concluded (much to the chagrin of me, Micky Wright, Jimmy Greenstead and Terry Oakley >:( ) That year obviously the winner of the Redhill singles represented the county at All-England. If winning the County Singles does not qualify you to represent Surrey at the All-England it should henceforward be known as the "Surrey Masters".
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Post by NigelS on Jul 7, 2007 17:56:59 GMT
I agree Tommo, that it seems that the tournaments won by Kev and Josie are more like "masters" tournament, where participation is granted through invitation.
I don't think 'difficulty' of winning the title should come into it, it is the title itself that defines the importance and prestige of winning that particular tournament. For instance some years I have had a tougher run to win my Brighton Singles titles than I did to win the Sussex titles, but of course my Sussex title is more important to me than Brighton. Also the most prestigious title I have won, the all England Singles, was won with an average of just over 5k, so it wasn't the most difficult to win, but definitely the biggest.
Maybe something for Surrey to look at Clive, as it does seem some of the players are unsure of the situation having spoken to Kev, Josie and yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2007 22:55:31 GMT
I am hoping, actually, that my worthy colleagues have been sold some duff information on this one.
Surrey tend to have a bit of a laid-back approach and I have benefited in the past (from being a guest player in the All-England team championships for instance and from making it into the Surrey 'A' team when other more worthy candidates dropped out) - so I tend to try not to rock the boat.
I shall however try to air the debate, but will have to wait for the right moment to broach the subject.
It would be interesting to have Jukesey's angle on the matter - had he won the final of the "County Singles", would he have expected to be representing Surrey at Reading ?
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Post by Sparky on Jul 7, 2007 23:14:29 GMT
I too have been away and add my congratulations to Kev and Josie for winning such prestigious awards, and hope the comments made by others regarding the County selections will help the selectors/county officials find a solution.
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Post by Josie on Jul 9, 2007 11:57:02 GMT
I am hoping, actually, that my worthy colleagues have been sold some duff information on this one. Surrey tend to have a bit of a laid-back approach and I have benefited in the past (from being a guest player in the All-England team championships for instance and from making it into the Surrey 'A' team when other more worthy candidates dropped out) - so I tend to try not to rock the boat. I shall however try to air the debate, but will have to wait for the right moment to broach the subject. It would be interesting to have Jukesey's angle on the matter - had he won the final of the "County Singles", would he have expected to be representing Surrey at Reading ? Tommo - sorry to disappoint but no duff information. I've phoned around to double check and its true! :'( I remember I won this a few years ago and asked for it to be raised at the AGM - I think for various reasons that I asked the wrong person to raise it for me (I stupidly asked the ladies singles winner!!!!! :-[ :-/). Anyway - I'm going to raise it myself this time and ask for it to be discussed at this year's AGM. (24th July if you fancy coming along!). As to your other point I'm seeing Geoff tonight. I might just ask him!!!! ;) ;D
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Post by Martin Pellett on Jul 9, 2007 13:57:58 GMT
Josie/Tommo
Im sure if you asked Geoff he would tell you he would expect to represent surrey if he won the open singles not the county singles, as I stated in an earlier post the county singles has not been run on a regular basis over the years and there hasn't to my knowlege been a trophy or any recognition given to this comp on presentation night.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2007 13:58:09 GMT
Hi Josie,
Can't make the AGM unfortunately as it's my sister's birthday and we usually get invited over.
You have my full support though, and can quote my sentiment that the so called County Singles is nothing more than a "Masters" and should be renamed thus if the situation is allowed to continue.
I'm sure that you will face a lot of opposition in the form of the Redhill Singles being the "Open Singles" and therefore a better competition - which you know and I know is a load of rubbish. It became thus really so that Gail Woods (who was as strong a player as any man) could enter. But she lives abroad now so it may as well revert back.
The other point about the County Singles being to assess players for the County team is a weak argument as well - last year it was billed thus, and Tony Cross was one of the achievers on the day but still finished up in the Surrey 'B' side.
Let's face it, Redhill being the only league in Surrey can work it whichever way they want, really, and who am I to say anything different ?
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Post by Martin Pellett on Jul 9, 2007 14:09:14 GMT
Tommo
You help to make my point, the county team is picked by the county sec and does not always reflect the best players around, some don't want to play for the county and some just get ignored, it took me over 20 years to get picked and was when I was not playing my best bar billiards.
Take a look at the names on the on the open singles trophy and you will see how hard it is to win and that the names on there represent the best players in the league
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