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Post by milko on May 16, 2013 11:56:21 GMT
I understand that Guernsey will probably only be bringing 7 players over with them next month and believe that the format may well change for the international meaning that the Guernsey players will be playing 2 matches against two "seperate" England Teams on the night with no doubles matches being played. That should make it an interesting evening, although it is a shame that it means that the England players will have less games than normal themselves..... ::) .... would it be possible to play it is a triangular competition to allow more games and add some extra incentive to all of the players? ;D That sounds like a great idea Dave to have an England A, England B and a Guernsey team to all play each other once. There are 7 Guernsey players that have entered the Sussex Open so it looks as if that info is correct about Guernsey only bringing 7 players along for the International. The only problems I see is that 1. 15 players have been named in the latest (KT) England team, so one player would miss out unless two England B players only played once and 2. Is there enough time to fit it in with only four tables ? That means that we could have... England A Kevin Tunstall Paul Sainsbury Curt Driver Steven Sheard Mark Trafford Dave Ingram Henry Brooks England B Jim Greensted Chris Saville Gerry Fitzjohn Simon Coleman Lorin Clough Geoff Jukes Pete Sainsbury Stephen Coleman Guernsey Bob Chappel Bob Le Moignan Tom Oliver Luke Oliver Terry Kenny Roy Le Page Terry Girard Just my opinion ?? :P |
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Post by curtd on May 16, 2013 12:13:55 GMT
What about Mark Brewster ??? :)
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 12:24:57 GMT
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Post by milko on May 16, 2013 12:26:38 GMT
What about Mark Brewster ??? :) Curt, I only went by the players that the captain last put on here but I do agree that he's been treated poorly as he was first reserve on the ORIGINAL list that we decided upon at the last AGM. |
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Post by BB Warrior on May 16, 2013 12:27:39 GMT
That sounds like a great idea Dave to have an England A, England B and a Guernsey team to all play each other once. There are 7 Guernsey players that have entered the Sussex Open so it looks as if that info is correct about Guernsey only bringing 7 players along for the International. The only problems I see is that 1. 15 players have been named in the latest (KT) England team, so one player would miss out unless two England B players only played once and 2. Is there enough time to fit it in with only four tables ? I have heard that one of the England players has dropped out of the team for the match due to other commitments which would leave exactly 14 players meaning everybody could play 2 games. Since the match is being played at the same venue as the Sussex Open, there would actually be 12 tables there so it would be possible to use more than 4 at one time so I don't think that time should be a problem as long as it starts by about 7pm....? Obviously the mixture of which players are picked for which England Team would be the decision of the selectors but it would seem to be sensible that the "original" players selected in the squad should be in the "A Team" and the other players in the "B Team". ;) |
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Post by milko on May 16, 2013 12:31:17 GMT
That sounds like a great idea Dave to have an England A, England B and a Guernsey team to all play each other once. There are 7 Guernsey players that have entered the Sussex Open so it looks as if that info is correct about Guernsey only bringing 7 players along for the International. The only problems I see is that 1. 15 players have been named in the latest (KT) England team, so one player would miss out unless two England B players only played once and 2. Is there enough time to fit it in with only four tables ? I have heard that one of the England players has dropped out of the team for the match due to other commitments which would leave exactly 14 players meaning everybody could play 2 games. Since the match is being played at the same venue as the Sussex Open, there would actually be 12 tables there so it would be possible to use more than 4 at one time so I don't think that time should be a problem as long as it starts by about 7pm....?Obviously the mixture of which players are picked for which England Team would be the decision of the selectors but it would seem to be sensible that the "original" players selected in the squad should be in the "A Team" and the other players in the "B Team". ;) Silly me, of course it is, I was thinking it was at the hotel in Worthing!!! :-[ |
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Post by BB Warrior on May 16, 2013 12:31:40 GMT
I think that you put the wrong link there Tommo.... that took me to the 2006 international with no B Team shown when it was actually 2008 that the B Team match was played against Guernsey B! :P You also forgot to include Sue Mariner and Hayley Tunstall in the list of players that took part that day.... :o :o |
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Post by curtd on May 16, 2013 12:34:49 GMT
What about Mark Brewster ??? :) Curt, I only went by the players that the captain last put on here but I do agree that he's been treated poorly as he was first reserve on the ORIGINAL list that we decided upon at the last AGM. Yep see where your coming from Keith :) It's just you have one player in your A side that didn't go to jersey and was below mark on the original list. ;) Modified to make Curt's smilies work ;D |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 12:45:53 GMT
I think that you put the wrong link there Tommo.... that took me to the 2006 international with no B Team shown when it was actually 2008 that the B Team match was played against Guernsey B! :P You also forgot to include Sue Mariner and Hayley Tunstall in the list of players that took part that day.... :o :o The http:/ given is a composite link for all the Guernsey Internationals, Dave: once in you have to click on the appropriate year (2008) from the choices at the bottom of the page. Yes indeed the two Ladies played that day, and would gain future consideration elsewhere (in Ladies Internationals) - as also appears the case with a "gruesome twosome" who have moved up and are now established in the 'A' team. ;) :D ;D ;D ;D (This does not need a serious response by the way - you know tommo, he likes to have his little digs..... ;) ;D) |
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Post by BB Warrior on May 16, 2013 12:57:33 GMT
Yes indeed the two Ladies played that day, and would gain future consideration elsewhere (in Ladies Internationals) - as also appears the case with a " gruesome twosome" who have moved up and are now established in the 'A' team. ;) :D ;D ;D ;D (This does not need a serious response by the way - you know tommo, he likes to have his little digs..... ;) ;D)I've been called worse Clive....!! :o ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by SirKT on May 16, 2013 15:20:18 GMT
I am still awaiting confirmation from Guernsey about a definite number, but 7 did sound like it was favourite.
I suggested to Tom Oliver and Bob le Moignan about two lots of singles, as with only 3 lots of Pairs, several players would miss out.`
I don't think there should be `A` or `B` teams, just one squad divided up accordingly
With Sav`s & Geoff`s withdrawals, this is the squad that is left.
K.Tunstall
Paul Sainsbury
Dave Ingram
Jim Greensted
Simon Coleman
Lorin Clough
Pete Sainsbury
Gerry Fitzjohn
Steven Sheard
Curt Driver
Mark Trafford
Henry Brooks
Mark Brewster
Stephen Coleman
I feel one lot of Singles matches for each England player would be enough. I`m not sure the Sussex open organisers would welcome more tables being used in case any players gained an advantage for the following day.
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Post by BB Warrior on May 16, 2013 15:37:45 GMT
I feel one lot of Singles matches for each England player would be enough. I`m not sure the Sussex open organisers would welcome more tables being used in case any players gained an advantage for the following day. No problem though for the Guernsey players to gain an advantage then by having two games.... and presumably it also wouldn't have been a problem had Guernsey bought enough players over to play both the singles and doubles which would normally have involved the England players playing two matches as well?? ::) With 12 tables available I am sure it wouldn't be too hard to do a schedule for the international that would avoid any tables that players are likely to play on in the early rounds of the Sussex Open.... personally I would always prefer to play more than one match and I am very disappointed that we have lost the doubles from the format as that always makes the international against Guernsey a more enjoyable event than just two games of singles. :'( A number of the England players will have a fairly long journey to play this match and some of them may even decide to stay overnight if they are playing in the Sussex Open the next day.... would they prefer to play just one game or are they like most of the rest of us and actually want to play more games?? I'm sure that we all remember that serveral players that dropped out of the away match in Jersey saying that they "could not justify the cost" to play just 2 games of billiards. Let us hope that we don't lose any more players for the same reason this time..... :-X |
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Post by milko on May 16, 2013 16:01:28 GMT
Without naming names I can think of a few Opens where players have played the day before and then won the Open the next day but I don't have a problem with it.
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Post by H on May 16, 2013 16:19:50 GMT
I am looking forward to representing my country at a game I love, whatever happens...
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Post by BB Warrior on May 16, 2013 16:24:03 GMT
Without naming names I can think of a few Opens where players have played the day before and then won the Open the next day but I don't have a problem with it. .... and the 4 Sussex players will all have played at least 4 of the tables in the Sussex Masters that is being played earlier in the day anyway.... more in the case of one of them who is also taking part in the Sussex Under 30's as well. ;D |
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Post by "Silent" on May 16, 2013 16:33:03 GMT
I am looking forward to representing my country at a game I love, whatever happens... Good for you Henry, what a great post :) |
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Post by JB on May 16, 2013 17:25:58 GMT
The Sussex masters and under 30's should finish (hopefully) by 7pm. I am still waiting to confirm numbers in the Under 30's.
Most opens have something played on the Saturday meaning that there is always a chance that someone will play a table that they are drawn on in the open. All tables on the Sunday morning are rechecked and brushed etc. so could be different to the Saturday.
I have no problem with the international using as many tables as they like.
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Post by bigjimsilverfox on May 16, 2013 17:35:11 GMT
I am looking forward to representing my country at a game I love, whatever happens... Yep I`m with H on this one :) ;D |
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Post by SirKT on May 17, 2013 12:18:07 GMT
The Sussex masters and under 30's should finish (hopefully) by 7pm. I am still waiting to confirm numbers in the Under 30's. Most opens have something played on the Saturday meaning that there is always a chance that someone will play a table that they are drawn on in the open. All tables on the Sunday morning are rechecked and brushed etc. so could be different to the Saturday. I have no problem with the international using as many tables as they like. That`s good then. Maybe we`ll try and fit some more singles in then. I`ll work a schedule out :) |
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Post by BB Warrior on May 17, 2013 12:53:29 GMT
The Sussex masters and under 30's should finish (hopefully) by 7pm. I am still waiting to confirm numbers in the Under 30's. Most opens have something played on the Saturday meaning that there is always a chance that someone will play a table that they are drawn on in the open. All tables on the Sunday morning are rechecked and brushed etc. so could be different to the Saturday. I have no problem with the international using as many tables as they like. That`s good then. Maybe we`ll try and fit some more singles in then. I`ll work a schedule out :) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by milhouse on May 23, 2013 13:16:19 GMT
Do we know an official start time yet ?
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Post by milko on Jun 6, 2013 12:48:44 GMT
Do we know an official start time yet ? What is going on ? Two weeks have passed since this question was asked with only TWO days to go and still no answer ? :-/ Also nothing confirmed yet to say how this International is going to be played ? I don't even think that some players have been OFFICIALLY told that they are playing yet ? milko ??? |
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Post by SirKT on Jun 6, 2013 15:15:32 GMT
Do we know an official start time yet ? What is going on ? Two weeks have passed since this question was asked with only TWO days to go and still no answer ? :-/ Also nothing confirmed yet to say how this International is going to be played ? I don't even think that some players have been OFFICIALLY told that they are playing yet ? milko ??? Just had a nice chat with Bob Le Moignan about a format. As there is definitely only 7 players from Guernsey, my suggestion to Bob was to play 4 lots of Singles (double legs), with each England player getting 2 matches and the Guernsey lads 4 each. Bob thinks that 1 or 2 players might not cope with 8 legs full on so I`ve suggested 6 Pairs matches (Double games with equal breaks in each and all 4 players to have a break) and 14 Single matches (Double games), each England player to play once and each Guernsey player twice. There will be a break between the Doubles and Singles matches for some food. We are looking at a 7pm start or earlier if the days competitions run to time. Who doesn`t know that they are playing then Keith ??? :-/ Oh and remember it is Off the Spot and please bring your England shirts etc etc |
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jun 6, 2013 15:28:16 GMT
Is BBW fit to play?
Sav
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Post by SirKT on Jun 6, 2013 15:58:34 GMT
Spoke to him the other day and he wasn`t ruling it out. Waiting for a definite answer :) |
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Post by BB Warrior on Jun 6, 2013 17:46:16 GMT
Spoke to him the other day and he wasn`t ruling it out. Waiting for a definite answer :) I'm certainly hoping to play and will give myself a good "fitness test" at the Sussex Masters that is taking place earlier in the day. 8-) |
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Post by Sir Chancelot on Jun 8, 2013 18:00:34 GMT
Good luck to all for an enjoyable evening with lots of competitive Bar Billiards and no politics 8-)
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