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Post by BB Warrior on Dec 9, 2015 16:18:34 GMT
I will be sending out emails in the next few days confirming the balances that are due to be paid by 31st January 2016 and giving people the option to either pay this by cheque or by bank transfer. Please note that ALL SINGLE ROOMS have now been booked. The Queens Hotel have asked Chrissie if it possible for players to share twin or family rooms rather than requesting Single Occupancy of a Double Room which obviously would help to reduce the cost for players as well.
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Post by BB Warrior on Dec 10, 2015 22:51:10 GMT
The list of names for hotel bookings has been removed at the request of the AEBBA Secretary.
Should anybody want information about their booking, please contact me.
David
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Post by milhouse on Jan 4, 2016 10:30:53 GMT
The list of names for hotel bookings has been removed at the request of the AEBBA Secretary. Should anybody want information about their booking, please contact me. David Any reason for this? Can you let us know how full the hotel is? So we will know if we can enter by staying at another hotel as people were allowed to do this last year but wasn't communicated. Thanks
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 4, 2016 11:52:22 GMT
Can you let us know how full the hotel is? So we will know if we can enter by staying at another hotel as people were allowed to do this last year but wasn't communicated. Thanks As the organiser last year I have to take issue with this untrue nit-picking Mark.
At the closing date last year the hotel was not quite full and no entries had been accepted from people not staying at the hotel.
Well AFTER the closing date and draw, only few days before the weekend Norman Wilkinson found he could attend and play in the international. The hotel was by then full and he booked in next door. Hayley Tunstall did not have a partner and Norman was subsequently allowed to partner her.
Similarly Craig Belson was a no-show despite having paid, another Bucks couple were staying next door, again as a late booking, due to no room at the Queens. John Smith was also allowed to play rather than a residential player finishing up partnerless. Those were the only two and decisions made to resolve last minute difficulties at the weekend.
This is totally different to deliberately trying to enter the competition without staying at the Queens against the spirit of the rules, all because a previous administrator upset you.
Please support those who are currently trying to make the weekend a success.
Re the room occupation list, that was removed following a complaint from me that who is sharing with whom and what bed type etc is confidential info.
There is nothing stopping Dave Ingram listing the number of occupied rooms as I used to do.
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Post by milhouse on Jan 4, 2016 13:03:19 GMT
As the organiser last year I have to take issue with this untrue nit-picking Mark.
At the closing date last year the hotel was not quite full and no entries had been accepted from people not staying at the hotel.
Well AFTER the closing date and draw, only few days before the weekend Norman Wilkinson found he could attend and play in the international. The hotel was by then full and he booked in next door. Hayley Tunstall did not have a partner and Norman was subsequently allowed to partner her.
Similarly Craig Belson was a no-show despite having paid, another Bucks couple were staying next door, again as a late booking, due to no room at the Queens. John Smith was also allowed to play rather than a residential player finishing up partnerless. Those were the only two and decisions made to resolve last minute difficulties at the weekend.
This is totally different to deliberately trying to enter the competition without staying at the Queens against the spirit of the rules, all because a previous administrator upset you.
Please support those who are currently trying to make the weekend a success.
Re the room occupation list, that was removed following a complaint from me that who is sharing with whom and what bed type etc is confidential info.
There is nothing stopping Dave Ingram listing the number of occupied rooms as I used to do.
Don't want to get into an argument about this but not sure how you can say my comments are untrue when infact they are true as you had explained why they could enter as last minute entries. The point is, the rules state you MUST stay at the Queens to participate and those particular people you mentioned did not. On the point of - can you elaborate on this as this is news to me? My reasons for not wanting to stay at the Queens is purely to do with not liking the hotel along with the cost and the food (Having ALWAYS been ill after eating there).
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 4, 2016 13:23:50 GMT
That rule was adhered to. Please feel free to book in next door on the off chance that the Queens will fill up after the draw and a residential player should finish up partnerless.
As to the rest of the twaddle about always being ill when you have eaten there (food has been superb since Chrissie and I took over), you're happy to drink there and benefit from the reduced prices negotiated for the residential weekend.
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Post by bobhall on Jan 4, 2016 13:47:53 GMT
Can you let us know how full the hotel is? So we will know if we can enter by staying at another hotel as people were allowed to do this last year but wasn't communicated. Thanks As the organiser last year I have to take issue with this untrue nit-picking Mark.
At the closing date last year the hotel was not quite full and no entries had been accepted from people not staying at the hotel.
Well AFTER the closing date and draw, only few days before the weekend Norman Wilkinson found he could attend and play in the international. The hotel was by then full and he booked in next door. Hayley Tunstall did not have a partner and Norman was subsequently allowed to partner her.
Similarly Craig Belson was a no-show despite having paid, another Bucks couple were staying next door, again as a late booking, due to no room at the Queens. John Smith was also allowed to play rather than a residential player finishing up partnerless. Those were the only two and decisions made to resolve last minute difficulties at the weekend.
This is totally different to deliberately trying to enter the competition without staying at the Queens against the spirit of the rules, all because a previous administrator upset you.
Please support those who are currently trying to make the weekend a success.
Re the room occupation list, that was removed following a complaint from me that who is sharing with whom and what bed type etc is confidential info.
There is nothing stopping Dave Ingram listing the number of occupied rooms as I used to do.
Sav your comment is not true I am afraid to say as last year I know of people who had booked at a different hotel but we're playing in the competition and this was before the closing date I am afraid to say
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Post by milhouse on Jan 4, 2016 13:55:03 GMT
[/p][/quote]Sav your comment is not true I am afraid to say as last year I know of people who had booked at a different hotel but we're playing in the competition and this was before the closing date I am afraid to say [/quote] This is what i had heard too but without proof of it happening, so glad someone has come out and said it!
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 4, 2016 14:07:02 GMT
Complete and utter load of rubbish Bob.
Every person in the draw was resident at the Queens. name one who was not or apologise!
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Post by barbelman on Jan 4, 2016 15:31:48 GMT
Do we really have to have this every year...reallly??
The rules are there for all to see, formulated by the elected officers of the AEBBA - any reshuffling done on the day is for the sake of the tournament. If you don't like the rules then don't enter and get the rules changed in a democratic manner instead of using puerile bar-room innuendo and half-truths.
Do you people not realise that there will be no-one left who is willing to run things soon?
Tony
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Post by barbelman on Jan 4, 2016 15:43:45 GMT
Mind you, having had my petulant little rant it should be remembered that it is only a TINY minority of people who are unhappy and the VAST MAJORITY of players support the AEBBA / couldn't care less and just want to enjoy the week-end....
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Post by milhouse on Jan 4, 2016 16:05:07 GMT
Mind you, having had my petulant little rant it should be remembered that it is only a TINY minority of people who are unhappy and the VAST MAJORITY of players support the AEBBA / couldn't care less and just want to enjoy the week-end.... I support the AEBBA fully and would love to enjoy the weekend too, as i did before the restrictions were put in place.
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Post by milhouse on Jan 4, 2016 16:06:34 GMT
Do we really have to have this every year...reallly?? The rules are there for all to see, formulated by the elected officers of the AEBBA - any reshuffling done on the day is for the sake of the tournament. If you don't like the rules then don't enter and get the rules changed in a democratic manner instead of using puerile bar-room innuendo and half-truths. Do you people not realise that there will be no-one left who is willing to run things soon? Tony Surely if this is the case, then the restrictions on staying at the hotel wouldn't be in place..... Would hate to think of the impact on numbers for Jersey & Guernsey weekends if they had the same thing in place.....
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Post by Chris on Jan 4, 2016 16:32:49 GMT
Fact 84 rooms gone Fact rooms are available Fact closing date is January 11th Fact residency is part of entry Fact I did not see anyone entered 2015 who was not staying, except as Chris described above ( or was this after closing date ? when the hotel was full? ) Fact Chris S called a full AEBBA committee meeting to determine full committee approval re the people not staying and entries, stating the issues he has given above Fact as Tony Willis said there will be no one to run anything if this continues Fact HAPPY NEW YEAR AND I MAY BE JOINING NORTHANTS WEBSITE WHERE FUN STILL EXSISTS
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Post by BB Warrior on Jan 4, 2016 16:40:07 GMT
I can advise that I have received booking forms for 84 rooms now, including all 11 single rooms, which I understand means that there are currently 25 rooms remaining at the Queens Hotel. As a member of the AEBBA Committee last year, I will also confirm that the information shown above by Chris Saville is correct as far as acceptance of non-residents is concerned and is a fair reflection of the meeting that the AEBBA Committee held to discuss that before the start of the competition last year.
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Post by Sir Chancelot on Jan 4, 2016 16:47:55 GMT
To confirm what Sav has stated. Last year I bought Andy Rundle's Air Ticket off him as he was unable to attend Bournemouth. I did this to play for Guernsey against England. I was not expecting to enter the pairs, but was grateful that I was given a place due to someone not attending. There will often be a reserve list in most competitions, however I did not intend to enter and stay at another Hotel. The Queens was booked up when I decided to make up the numbers for the International.
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Post by bobhall on Jan 4, 2016 16:53:28 GMT
Complete and utter load of rubbish Bob.
Every person in the draw was resident at the Queens. name one who was not or apologise!
Sav I will speak to you in public show you the proof then you can beg for forgivness because unlike you I make sure I know the facts first end of discussion for now
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Post by Chris on Jan 4, 2016 17:58:32 GMT
Close of play 2015 all Entries done - 64 Pairs - nearly all rooms booked I believe only 64 Pairs played last year? Only gaps to fill were catered too and a few more guests????? Jan 2, 2015 at 6:41pm Quote Post by Sav on Jan 2, 2015 at 6:41pm Entries have now closed for 2015 and we have potentially 64 pairs an increase of nearly 20% on last year, bucking the recent trend We have reservations for all but a few rooms, again nearly 20% up on last year. The remaining rooms will now be handed back to the hotel for them to sell on if they have customers. Entertainment planned is a quiz and disco on Friday plus a race night and disco on Saturday. Let me know ASAP if anyone has alternate suggestions (clean ones lads!). There will be at least one practice table this year, but it is only fair that Guernsey players will have priority up until the international (best put it near the bar ). One or two points that I was not aware of last year regarding rooms have been identified and I will be creating a snag list to discuss with hotel management ASAP. Thank you for your support. Sav Ernie Jordan Ray Hussey Dawn Jordan Sue Atkins Steve Allard Sue Allard Cliff Slade Richard hawes John Kitson Matthew Jones Jenny Parsons TBA (Gill Saville??) Bill Keenan Roger Bowen Phil Osborne Colin Southouse Gary Mechan Bob Mechan Dave Tooke Phil Hawkins Curt Driver Mark Brewster Sean Stratford Nicki Stratford Chris Saville Tony Martin Terry Isard Darren Isard Sue Haberman Amanda Felstead Caroline Gower Sarah Cooper Doug Carswell Leigh Ross Peter Godden Andy Godden Jeff Spenser Ralph Hodgson Stuart Mepham Martin Cole Dave Nielan John Burch Tony Willis John Bamsey Kevin Hall Kevin Tunstall Sandra Hall Lorraine Hall Chris Newson Chrissie Newson Tony Jenner Rick Cunningham Keith Sheard Pauline Withey Steven Sheard Pete Phillips Brian Richards Steve Aylmore Chris Richards Nikki Oakley Jean Brackenridge Alan Brackenridge Pete Soanes Andy Skinner Geoff Powell Max Dick D J Robins Darren Robins Doug Dawson Michelle Baden Dave Ingram Henry Brooks Colleen Park Bob Le Moignan Bert Lovegrove Paul Butcher Myra Hawkins Janet Burns Andy Burns Keith Lewendon Geoff Jukes Dennis Atkins Craig Carlson Derek Latham Kevin Stoner Bella Stoner Merv Yearwood Syl Murphy Andy Haines Craig Belson Darren Ogier Ian Champion Roy Le Page Terry Kenny Jim Thomson Tony Britten Dave Alder Graham Alder Simon Coleman Damien Coates Stephen Coleman Mike Daw Ron Britton Dave Mitchell Brian Dawkins Mick Gibbons Andy Farmer-Wright Ros Appleby Karen Lord Lana Stoner Tom Oliver Luke Oliver Paul Sainsbury Bernie McCluskey Nigel Senior Marcus Chipman Andrew Rundle Terry Girard Pete Sainsbury Mike Callanan Bill Trinder Will Trinder Leon Beer Phil Collins Joe Oakley Chris Oakley Adam Ingram Danielle Chewings
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 4, 2016 18:01:49 GMT
Complete and utter load of rubbish Bob.
Every person in the draw was resident at the Queens. name one who was not or apologise!
Sav I will speak to you in public show you the proof then you can beg for forgivness because unlike you I make sure I know the facts first end of discussion for now
You have accused me of lying again, yet you have still to show there was anyone in the draw who was not staying at the hotel.
Until you either supply the non-existent proof or a retraction you are no longer welcome on the forum.
I await your email.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 18:17:43 GMT
Fact HAPPY NEW YEAR AND I MAY BE JOINING NORTHANTS WEBSITE WHERE FUN STILL EXSISTS Nothing like a good row to start the new year off ! Yeah I really miss those guys, the Forum was so much fun in the old days before they deserted to Facebook.
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Post by Chris on Jan 4, 2016 18:29:17 GMT
Oh dear Clive - I don't have Facebook !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 22:03:31 GMT
Me neither - I have a Twitter account, though. Just 'tweet' when I feel like it. sorry !
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 5, 2016 9:56:03 GMT
As I was an officer of the AEBBA at the time, I have asked the AEBBA committee for an official statement on whether any players/entrants, at the time of the draw last year, were allowed residence away from the Queens.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jan 5, 2016 11:50:28 GMT
Have to say this annual slanging match is getting a bit tedious, i used to be in the "dont like being forced to stay where i'm told camp", and just didn't attend. Last year was my first visit and i found the hotel, its facilities and the city to be top notch and thoroughly enjoyed the whole package. I must say that those that take the trouble to organise this event have my upmost appreciation and thanks as one who knows how much time and effort is spent getting all us erberts to payup on time etc.
So keep up the good work and thanks
regs cs
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Post by Chris on Jan 5, 2016 20:39:35 GMT
Dear Mark and Bob
I agree with Colin Southouse let's stop the tedious arguing.
If a mistake has been made LAST YEAR then let's be adult enough to say where and when instead of this type of thread. You have a right to a voice so be honest in airing it. You could just put it as a question which is the way of querying an issue? In fact had you I believe this thread would not have been necessary.
If I have made a mistake last year, please tell me. I will be the first to apologise and ensure none in the future. I would prefer a private discussion first but I would totally prefer a public show than any people thinking there are hidden issues, which is what is implied by the thread.
I can't stand this sort of 'I KNOW YOU DID BUT NOT GOING TO TELL YOU - SORRY GUYS BUT IT REMINDS ME OF MY WORK DAILY'
My TOTAL thanks for your support in just being upfront and direct Chris
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Post by Sir Chancelot on Jan 6, 2016 12:24:12 GMT
No connection to those who are ranting a lot (?) but are there any children's rooms available at The Queens ?
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 6, 2016 13:00:40 GMT
Hi Norman,
There are family rooms available with either additional bunk beds or single bed,
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Post by dipper on Jan 6, 2016 17:34:17 GMT
One of the years that I went The Queens used an overflow hotel around the corner and was allowed to enter the comptetion, could this be what Bob is refering to?
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Post by barbelman on Jan 6, 2016 18:00:20 GMT
One of the years that I went The Queens used an overflow hotel around the corner and was allowed to enter the comptetion, could this be what Bob is refering to? I got stuck in there one year after a mix-up - it was a member of the Queens group of hotels - the Cumberland??
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 6, 2016 19:04:23 GMT
One of the years that I went The Queens used an overflow hotel around the corner and was allowed to enter the comptetion, could this be what Bob is refering to? No, Bob's post categorically said last year which was the first year the residency rule was applied for many years.
It touched a raw nerve to suggest that I was allowing 'A favoured few' people to enter without staying at the Queens as per the rules when refusing others, after everything I had done to end the questionable practices and 'favoured few' attitude of my predecessor over Bournemouth.
Everyone entered at the time of the draw stayed at the hotel and everyone, including me, paid fully for their rooms. Every financial transaction was recorded (AEBBA accounts have been examnined).
You have my word on that and anyone is welcome to ask me to bring the hotel residency invoice with me to the next comp I attend and compare it with the competition results on the forum. The deal I negotiated was of the maximum benefit to all residents and was based on our assurance that maximum use would be made of the hotel. That's why the weekend is nearly £20 cheaper up front and much more with the reduced beer prices.
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