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Post by gandalf the untidy on Mar 21, 2016 17:36:25 GMT
Rules and Info here shortly
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Mar 21, 2016 17:40:41 GMT
Current teams listing, just waiting for Nige to confirm and any others who may be interested. as we have sponsorship this year the entrance fee is cancelled. The idea here being to set the rules to make it easy for interested players to fit in somewhere and have an enjoyable evening of 4 Pin.
Black Lion Halland Team Colin Southouse, Darren Newnham, Dave Knight Seven Sisters Team Chris Haynes, Gareth Dell, Mike Reilly Hospital Team Phil Osborne, Bob Osborne, Rob Hall Star team Peter Payne, Stewart Chant, Mike Daw Hollingbury Team Colin Green, Dave Jones, Brian Bartrum
reserves can play for any team and any team can play any guest on the night. the named players can only play for 1 team for the duration.
Reserve list
Alec Pope Tony Smith fred pope
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Mar 21, 2016 17:52:01 GMT
Eastbourne 4 Pin League Rules with amendments in Yellow, the interleague fixture will also be played to these rules at the Hospital Club
1. All 3 player teams shall play all other 3 player teams in the league at home and away. Venues will be agreed by committee before the league commences. Registered players can only play for 1 team per season , designated reserves and new unregistered players can play without prior notice, and play for any team. The summer league is sponsored this year by Halls and Woodhouse so each team shall not pay to the league the registration fee of £5.00 2. Matches shall consist of 3 players playing 2 games in each session. The home players (1,2 & 3) and Visitors players (3,4 & 5)names will be drawn prior to the match starting, The Home players shall have the break in the 1st 3 games, the opponents will have the break in the 2nd 3 Games in the following format. Player1 v player 4, Player 2 v Player 5,Player 3 v Player 6, Player 5 v Player 1, Player 6 v Player 2, Player 4 v Player3. 4. Teams will not be able to adjust the playing date and times without the agreement of the committee 5. Matches shall be played on Tuesday evenings starting at 8.00pm. 6. Players will be expected to score matches when they are not playing . The scores in each game will be recorded and sent to the secretary within 3 days preferably by e-mail or text. A one point penalty will be enforced should results not be sent. All breaks over 500 will be recorded for each player in each game. One Point shall be awarded to the player winning each leg. 7. A copy of these rules should be available at each venue. Disputes will be resolved at the venue by mutual agreement of the attending captains. In the event of no agreement both captains should bring the dispute to the attention of the committee within 3 days with both versions of the incident, the decisions of the committee will be final 8. Should any team withdraw from competition before all the fixtures have been completed, the committee will ensure that match results will be adjusted to ensure the fairest possible outcome will result 9. The funds of the league shall be deposited in a bank account with two signatories. Two signatories must sign all cheques. 10. The league officers shall consist of a chairman, secretary, treasurer & such others as the AGM may decide to appoint. 11. The AGM will be held after the completion of the league season & prior to the commencement of the following season, unless otherwise decided by the membership at an extraordinary meeting. Interim business will be dealt with by the committee, which will meet as necessary. 12. Members of the league may call a general meeting if more than 7 Members wish to do so. Members may also request a committee meeting if more than 5 members wish to do so. 13. All other business of the league shall be conducted in accordance with the wishes of the AGM. 14. The league may expel any member who is adjudged to have deliberately disregarded the rules of the league if such action is called for by a majority of the membership 15. No opposing team players shall move or adjust the table unless a specific request is made from either members of the Home Side or the Landlord.
Rules of Play
1. In all matches, a coin shall be tossed to determine the order of play. The away player to call. 2. 4 Mushrooms (not pegs) should be placed in front of the 4 high scoring holes. There must be 7 White balls and 1 red ball in the tray after the timer jack is pulled. To start the game, place the red ball on the spot above the 'D' and play a white ball from the centre of the 'D'. This is called the break shot. The centre of the 'D' should be marked with a spot. Thereafter, with the exception of further break shots, and the last ball, either coloured ball may be played from any position within the confines of the 'D'. All strokes throughout the game must be played from the 'D'. 3. The player must not play the cue ball directly into a hole. The cue ball must first strike another ball to become a scoring shot. 4. When the red ball is sunk, the score of that ball is doubled. When 2 Balls are sunk from the break shot position on 3 consecutive occasions into the same pockets the scorer will call “Alternate shot” if both ball fall in the same hole a foul is called 5. When all balls are in play, and none left in the tray, the ball nearest to the baulk line is returned and played from the 'D' to continue the game. If two or more balls are equidistant from the baulk line the ball nearest to the centre should be returned to continue play as it is "nearest to the D". 6. When no balls are left in play, the red and white balls are positioned as for the start of the game. 7. When a ball returns to cut the baulk line ( not the edge of the baize), that ball is removed to the tray. 8. If a mushroom is knocked over by a ball and cannot be replaced because of obstruction by a ball, that ball shall be removed to the tray. The peg must be replaced to its correct position immediately. 9. If a mushroom is knocked from its correct position without falling over, if possible it shall be immediately replaced on its spot, if a ball is obstructing the spot the mushroom will remain in its position until such time as that ball is moved from the spot then be mushroom should be immediately replaced correctly. If a break ends the mushroom will be respotted and the ball returned to the tray. 10. If a ball and peg are wedged in a hole together, the peg is to be removed first and the ball allowed to drop down the hole and not returned to the tray even after the gate has dropped. 11. Each player continues until a non-scoring shot is played. 12. Once a player leaves the table their break is deemed over, should a ball fall down a hole after they have left the table this will not count towards their break or their opponents break unless their opponent has first struck the cue ball whether or not it strikes another ball. 13. Scores shall have the same value before and after the gate has dropped. The red ball will continue to score double. 14. The last ball on the table shall be played from the centre of the 'D', into either 50,100 or 200 holes only off one side cushion only. If the last ball is correctly played, but not holed, the player keeps the score of that break. Foul Shots 1. The player looses his/her entire score if :- a. The last ball is holed without striking the side cushion. b. The player causes the peg covering the 200 hole to be knocked over. 2. The player loses the score of that break if :- 1. The cue ball fails to strike another ball. 2. Any ball returns to cut the baulk line (not the edge of the baize). (The 'D' counts as baulk). 3. The same break shot is played more than three times in succession. 4. The player causes any peg, other than that covering the '200' hole, to be knocked over. 5. The player fails to keep 1 ball up when instructed by the scorerDeleted 6. Any ball leaves the table, or strikes the backboard, even if that ball returns to the normal play area. 7. Any ball is played other than from the 'D'. 8. The player causes any ball to move other than a shot played correctly from the 'D'. 9. If a break shot or final ball is not played from the centre of the 'D'. 3. If a combination of foul shots occur, then, regardless of sequence of events, the player shall suffer the greater penalty.
Table Rules
The table shall be set out as follows:
• Mushrooms shall be placed (the baulk line side) to cover the 200 hole, the 100 hole, and the two 50 holes and shall be set 6mm from the edge of the hole + or – 1mm • The spot for the red ball for the break shall be exactly halfway between the rim of the 200 hole closest to the baulk line, and the back edge of the “D” • The number of balls shall be seven white and one red. • Tables must be maintained in good condition, and spare cues and chalk must always be provided
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Apr 8, 2016 5:45:43 GMT
Registration Deadline for this Year is 14th April 2016
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 20:56:04 GMT
We have designated the following dates for the 'other' H & W sponsored competition.........
21 June (Rd 2) 12 July (QrFs) 09 Aug (S/Fs) 23 Aug (Final)
........but these may not affect your players; and even if they do I'm sure we can come to some arrangement.
Interleague challenge looks good for the 30th Aug if you want to take on a composite side again.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on May 4, 2016 8:37:30 GMT
See confirmed 4 pin Fixtures please note the rules changes above on this thread, contact and venue details to follow by e mail Week | Date | Home | v | Away | | Home | v | Away | | Bye |
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| | | | | | | | | | | 1 | 14/06/2016 | Black Lion Halland | v | Star | | Seven Sisters | v | Hospital | | Hollingbury | 2 | 21/06/2016 | Hollingbury | v | Seven Sisters | | Hospital | v | Black Lion | | Star | 3 | 28/06/2016 | Star | v | Hospital | | Black Lion | v | Hollingbury | | Seven sisters | 4 | 05/07/2016 | Seven Sisters | v | Black lion | | Hollingbury | v | Star | | Hospital | 5 | 12/07/2016 | Hospital | v | Hollingbury | | Star | v | Seven Sisters | | Black Lion | 6 | 19/07/2017 | Star | v | Black Lion | | Hospital | v | Seven Sisters | | Hollingbury | 7 | 26/07/2016 | Seven Sisters | v | Hollingbury | | Black Lion | v | Hospital | | Star | 8 | 02/08/2016 | NO MATCH SUSSEX AGM | | | | NO MATCH SUSSEX AGM | | | | | 9 | 09/06/2016 | Hospital | v | Star | | Hollingbury | v | Black Lion | | Seven sisters | 10 | 16/08/2016 | Black Lion | v | Seven Sisters | | Star | v | Hollingbury | | Hospital | 11 | 23/08/2016 | Hollingbury | v | Hospital | | Seven Sisters | v | Star | | Black Lion | 12 | 31/08/2016 | Interleague Eastbourne v mid sussex | | | | | | | | |
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 5, 2016 21:21:45 GMT
A pre season 4 pin friendly has been arranged The Black Lion v The Star Tuesday 7th June All others welcome on the night
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 8, 2016 20:24:17 GMT
Week 1 Fixtures 14th June
Black lion v Star Seven Sisters v Hospital Hollingbury v Bye
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 20:11:58 GMT
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 11, 2016 7:33:03 GMT
nice to see 4 pin still being talked about Tommo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 9:21:41 GMT
I see it starts this Tuesday. My intention is to have one feature page with: - Fixture list
- Rules
- Results
- League table
- Player averages
- Match reports
....with everything gleaned from this thread of the Forum. There will also be a separate link to this archive page, taking in Eastbourne activity over the past three years: docs.google.com/document/d/1_ZjEyszakoGdaNgtxzfn8NqWUkQlXgLiIXb40vEYbSY/pub
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Post by chrishaynes (R.I.P.) on Jun 14, 2016 22:08:06 GMT
1st game o0f new season, mick reilly played phil osborne mick 2090 to phils 3010, breaksw of 950, 1380 chris haynes 2390 to bob halls 2410 i had 890, bob had 940, if i'd missed the peg with last shot i would've won!!!!! gareth 1620 to bob osbornes 2360, no high breaks! bit scrappy! 3-0 down half way! mick played bob hall, mick scoring 3690 breaks 600,830 and 1240, to bob halls 1610, chris played bob osborne, chris scoring 4080 breaks 1050 and 830 to bobs 1800 break of 720, gareth scored 2730 breaqk of 1830 against phils 2400 break of 650,720, thoroughly enjoyable evening and a fair result in end!
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 14, 2016 22:10:18 GMT
Week 1 Black Horse 5 - 1 Star
Dave Knight (brks 740 & 500) 2750 v 1090 Alec Pope Darren Newnham 1610 v 740 Fred Pope Colin Southouse (brks 1670,1010,2020 & 3240) 7940 v 0 Peter Payne Dave Knight (brk 600) 2020 v 1590 Fred Pope (brks 580 & 500) Darren Newnham (brks 690 & 830) 2580 v 2890 Peter Payne (brks 2010 & 530) Colin Southouse (brks 570 & 1700) 3040 v 320 Alec Pope
Great match with loads of fun and plenty of shots attacking the 200 hole Nice sausage & Chips at the interval
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 22:42:39 GMT
So all three Mid-Sussexers (Dave, Darren, Bob) off to a win........
But some awesome scoring from Gandalf - surely 7940 must hold for the rest of the campaign and is not a sign of things to come ??
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 14, 2016 23:23:11 GMT
So all three Mid-Sussexers (Dave, Darren, Bob) off to a win........ But some awesome scoring from Gandalf - surely 7940 must hold for the rest of the campaign and is not a sign of things to come ?? should be some high scores on the Star top as the break shot is available both ways
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 23:39:41 GMT
To check results page each week: 1.Visit 2.Select Competitions from menu; 3.Click on "Hall & Woodhouse".
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 15, 2016 12:21:15 GMT
Week 1 stats
Players Name | Team | Average | Played | Won | brk | Total | season | pb | 500's | 750's | 1ks | 1.5ks | 2ks | 2.5k | 3k | 3.5k | 4k | 4.5k | 5k |
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| | | | | | score | h/score | | | | | | | | | | | | | Colin Southouse | Black Lion | 5,490 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 10,980 | 7,940 | 7,940 | 1 | - | 1 | 2 | 1 | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | Chris Haynes | Seven Sisters | 3,235 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 6,470 | 4,080 | 4,950 | - | 2 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Mike Reilly | Seven Sisters | 2,890 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 5,780 | 3,690 | 3,690 | 1 | 1 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Phil Osborne | Hospital | 2,705 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 5,410 | 3,010 | 6,490 | 2 | 1 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Dave Kinght | Black Lion | 2,385 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 4,770 | 2,750 | 2,750 | 3 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Gareth Dell | Seven Sisters | 2,175 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4,350 | 2,730 | 3,350 | - | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Darren Newnham | Black Lion | 2,110 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4,220 | 2,580 | 2,580 | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Bob Osborne | Hospital | 2,080 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4,160 | 2,360 | 4,970 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Bob Hall | Hospital | 2,010 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4,020 | 2,410 | 2,410 | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Peter Payne | Star | 1,445 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2,890 | 2,890 | 4,280 | 2 | - | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | Fred Pope | Black Lion | 1,165 | 2 | - | 1 | 2,330 | 1,590 | 3,220 | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Alec Pope | Star | 705 | 2 | - | 1 | 1,410 | 1,090 | 1,760 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 15, 2016 12:24:16 GMT
week 1 league table
| | | Home | | | Away | | Points |
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| Played | won | lost | drawn | won | lost | drawn | | | | | | | | | | | Black Lion | 1 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | Hospital | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 3 | Seven sisters | 1 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | Star | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 1 | Hollingbury | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 15, 2016 17:33:11 GMT
see a newbie getting some practice at the break on a wide top
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 15, 2016 22:21:07 GMT
week 2 Fixtures 21/06/16
Hollingbury v Seven Sisters Hospital v Black Lion Star V Bye
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 10:56:45 GMT
Tuesday 23rd August - Grand Final (best of 5 frames) ================================================== Venue: the Stout House (already booked). This will be followed by the presentation of prizes by our Sponsor. Hi Colin, Don't know if you saw, but the final of our K & B Doubles (also sponsored by H & W) has had to be put back a week (30th Aug) to accommodate Mark Woodhouse. This now clashes with the date on your programme for the Interleague challenge. Any chance you could change this to the Wednesday (31st Aug)? If so your challenging team could be 'Mid Sussex'. Rgds tommo
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 16, 2016 12:12:16 GMT
Tuesday 23rd August - Grand Final (best of 5 frames) ================================================== Venue: the Stout House (already booked). This will be followed by the presentation of prizes by our Sponsor. Hi Colin, Don't know if you saw, but the final of our K & B Doubles (also sponsored by H & W) has had to be put back a week (30th Aug) to accommodate Mark Woodhouse. This now clashes with the date on your programme for the Interleague challenge. Any chance you could change this to the Wednesday (31st Aug)? If so your challenging team could be 'Mid Sussex'. Rgds tommo will check and get back to you
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 23:24:09 GMT
To check results page each week: 1.Visit 2.Select Competitions from menu; 3.Click on "Hall & Woodhouse". A link to current National rankings now added to the foot of your page.
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 21, 2016 21:44:30 GMT
Week 2 Hospital 3 - 3 Black lion
Phil Osborne 1650 v 1130 Darren Newnham Mike Daw 1450 v 1680 Fred Pope (brk 540)(last ball red in the 200 to win) Bob Hall 2050 v 2350 Colin Southouse Phil Osborne (brks 820 & 1530) 3550 v 1730 Dave Knight (brk 550) Mike Daw (brks 1480 & 1790) 4120 v 1260 Colin Southouse Bob Hall bp v 2440 Fred Pope (brks 640 & 710)
nice evening on the whippy Hospital top, the visitors fielded 4 players tonight, plenty of opportunities for all with only Mike Daw getting to grips with the 50/50 break and the visitors lucky to come away with a draw thanks to Fred Popes 2 wins.
regs cs
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Post by chrishaynes (R.I.P.) on Jun 21, 2016 22:39:55 GMT
Well tonight was a scrappy affair on a very difficult hollingbury top, 5-1 to the sisters somehow! Chris 1220 to colins 980 Mick 1280 to joes 2000 brk 550 Gareth 1630 brk 700 to Brian's 1310 Chris 1440 to joes 1110 Mick 1610 to briana 1130 Gareth 2360 beks 580 510 to colins 1400 thanks to Colin for a banter duelled evening.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 12:42:38 GMT
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 23, 2016 22:25:56 GMT
WEEK 2 AVERAGES/WIN TABLE
Players Name | Team | Average | Played | Won | brk | Total | season | pb | 500's | 750's | 1ks | 1.5ks | 2ks | 2.5k | 3k | 3.5k | 4k | 4.5k | 5k |
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| | | | | | score | h/score | | | | | | | | | | | | | Colin Southouse | Black Lion | 3,648 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 14,590 | 7,940 | 7,940 | 2 | - | 1 | 2 | 1 | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | Phil Osborne | Hospital | 2,603 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 10,410 | 3,350 | 6,490 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Chris Haynes | Seven Sisters | 2,283 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 9,130 | 4,080 | 4,950 | - | 2 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Gareth Dell | Seven Sisters | 2,083 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 8,330 | 2,730 | 3,350 | 3 | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Mike Reilly | Seven Sisters | 2,168 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 8,670 | 3,690 | 3,690 | 1 | 1 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Dave Kinght | Black Lion | 2,167 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 6,500 | 2,750 | 2,750 | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Fred Pope | Black Lion | 1,613 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 6,450 | 1,590 | 3,220 | 5 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Mike Daw | Hospital | 2,785 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 5,570 | 4,120 | 4,120 | - | - | 1 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Bob Osborne | Hospital | 2,080 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4,160 | 2,360 | 4,970 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Darren Newnham | Black Lion | 1,783 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 5,350 | 2,580 | 2,580 | 2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Joe Oakley | Hollingbury | 1,555 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3,110 | 2,000 | 3,350 | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Bob Hall | Hospital | 1,518 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 6,070 | 2,410 | 2,410 | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Peter Payne | Star | 1,445 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2,890 | 2,890 | 4,280 | 2 | - | - | - | 1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | Brian Bartrum | Hollingbury | 1,220 | 2 | - | 1 | 2,440 | 1,310 | 1,630 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Colin Green | Hollingbury | 1,190 | 2 | - | 1 | 2,380 | 1,400 | 2,870 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | Alec Pope | Star | 705 | 2 | - | 1 | 1,410 | 1,090 | 1,760 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 23, 2016 22:27:55 GMT
WEEK 2 LEAGUE TABLE
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| Played | won | lost | drawn | won | lost | drawn | | | | | | | | | | | Seven sisters | 2 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 8 | Black Lion | 2 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 8 | Hospital | 2 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 6 | Star | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 1 | Hollingbury | 1 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 23, 2016 22:41:36 GMT
revised date for interleague approved
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Jun 28, 2016 22:15:55 GMT
Week 3
Black Lion 4 - 2 Hollingbury
Dave Knight 1410 v 2270 Brian Bartrum (680) Colin Southouse (1070,1020,1330 & 2160) 5580 v 1640 Nigel Senior (1570) Darren Newnham (860,700,660) 3390 v 1460 Joe Oakley (670) Dave Knight 530 v 7460 Nigel Senior (1920,5420) Colin Southouse (2700,540) 4220 v 1300 Joe Oakley Darren Newnham (1020,600,670) 2670 v 2510 Brian Bartrum (540,570)
Mr Senior showing his class tonight with a 5k + break and was well on the way to 10k but for a lost 2k near the end left handed break a lot easier than right handed, but all got it to some extent, with plenty of ways to attack the 100 hole. a close last game which could have saved a draw for the visitors
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