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Post by daveuk1 on Oct 22, 2017 18:02:03 GMT
1 Tony Jenner 2 Rick Cunningham 3 Colin Southouse 4 Phil Osborne 5 Bob Osborne 6 Dave White 7 Clive Thompson 8 Pauline Withey 9 Keith Sheard 10 Chris Saville 11 Chrissie Newson 12 Chris Newson 13 Andy Pollard 14 Jim Greensted 15 David Lloyd 16 Jeremy Fry 17 Andy Hill 18 Dan Auckland-Lang 19 Alan Giles 20 Luke Cole-Watts 21 Joe Andrews-Worth 22 Billy Anderson 23 Chris Cass
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Post by daveuk1 on Nov 11, 2017 15:53:15 GMT
10 entries so far. 9 three pinners plus sav
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Post by daveuk1 on Nov 15, 2017 21:07:06 GMT
I should say that nothing is certain yet but,,,,,,
We are trying to build on our collection of narrow tables and are very hopeful that next years 4 pin open will be played on narrow tables. If this puts any of the 12 people who have already entered off then please let me know in the next few days if you wish to withdraw and want a refund.
As I said this is not 100% yet but it is looking very likely that by March next year we WILL have 8 narrow tables to use and I sincerely hope this won't put people off entering.
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 0:21:34 GMT
I for one am looking forward to playing 'proper' 4-Pin on narrow tables. Will add to the charm of the event.
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Post by bigtj on Nov 16, 2017 8:08:59 GMT
I should say that nothing is certain yet but,,,,,, We are trying to build on our collection of narrow tables and are very hopeful that next years 4 pin open will be played on narrow tables. If this puts any of the 12 people who have already entered off then please let me know in the next few days if you wish to withdraw and want a refund. As I said this is not 100% yet but it is looking very likely that by March next year we WILL have 8 narrow tables to use and I sincerely hope this won't put people off entering. Dave Think if we go ahead on narrow tables will be great to play on the proper 4 pin tables, see you all there, as usual will be coming up on Wednesday and staying till Monday. Hope still having Friday night piss up at the Bay Horse!!
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Post by milko on Nov 16, 2017 12:21:13 GMT
If so does that mean the end of both balls into the 50 pockets on the break ? It could mean that it will result in the first 4 pin league player to win it! Will have to try and find a narrow table to practice on. Milko
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Post by NigelS on Nov 16, 2017 13:07:36 GMT
10 entries so far. 9 three pinners plus sav Sav you longer a three pinner?
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Post by NigelS on Nov 16, 2017 13:08:56 GMT
If so does that mean the end of both balls into the 50 pockets on the break ? Milko Well I am still going to go for it Defending my title may prove a bit difficult
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Post by Chris_Sav on Nov 16, 2017 13:09:02 GMT
10 entries so far. 9 three pinners plus sav Sav you longer a three pinner? Suffolk registered now, so 3½ pinner
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Post by milko on Nov 16, 2017 14:49:45 GMT
If so does that mean the end of both balls into the 50 pockets on the break ? Milko Well I am still going to go for it ....and a player of your class will probably get it.
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Post by daveuk1 on Nov 16, 2017 15:30:13 GMT
I am sure that Nigel will confirm that the 50-50 split break shot is a little harder on a narrow table
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Nov 16, 2017 16:26:01 GMT
looking forward to it Dave no matter how wide the tables are, the 50/50 might be too tricky to try but "life will find a way" to evolve an alternate break shot to confound you guys
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Post by mal on Nov 16, 2017 22:42:02 GMT
Fantastic news. I will be there wither way - but narrow tables would be much more interesting :)
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Post by bigjimsilverfox on Nov 17, 2017 9:34:59 GMT
please add Jim Greensted to this list, already booked accomodation ;)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 11:45:16 GMT
I would say the Eastbourne break definitely won't be on. On the narrow tables I've played on it's difficult enough getting the break for an ordinary (3-Pin) game, as the 50 pockets are further down the table from baulk. The narrow tables I've played on have been at the Stepping Stones (West Humble), the Hedgehog (Burstow), the Black Horse (Hookwood), the Three Moles (Selham) and the Hope (Carshalton) - the latter being the only one that still exists. An added feature with these tables has always been a different shaped D, sometimes one thre times the normal size, sometimes a circular one like they use for off-the-spot in Jersey, and sometimes a D of shorter width but longer in length. Which will Suffolk use, I wonder ? Whatever - from the sound of it, all who have commented so far seem to be relishing the new challenge.
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Post by daveuk1 on Nov 19, 2017 13:14:34 GMT
Our D's are generally smaller than the giant ones ive seen on three pin tables, also remember our break spot is also further up the table.
Narrow tables could certainly make a difference but out of all our top players Luke is probably the only one with enough self discipline to refrain from drinking too much, so at this early stage I will predict a Luke Cole-Watts and Alasdair Carnegie final, but that only if Al lays of the drink early on
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Post by Chris_Sav on Nov 19, 2017 14:31:12 GMT
Narrow tables could certainly make a difference but out of all our top players Luke is probably the only one with enough self discipline to refrain from drinking too much, so at this early stage I will predict a Luke Cole-Watts and Alasdair Carnegie final, but that only if Al lays of the drink early on
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 19:52:06 GMT
An added feature with these tables has always been a different shaped D, sometimes one three times the normal size, sometimes a circular one like they use for off-the-spot in Jersey, and sometimes a D of shorter width but longer in length. Which will Suffolk use, I wonder ? I'm hoping there will be more mileage in the discussion surrounding the size of D. When Dave says.......Our D's are generally smaller than the giant ones ive seen on three pin tables .......maybe he has seen one like on this table (click to enlarge)I agree that this would be a bit "O.T.T." but at the same time wouldn't like to see a tiny circular D used for 4-Pin as that would in effect make it also "off-the-spot" - making a version already difficult doubly so. This would only serve to swing the advantage back in favour of the top three-pinners, who are used to putting excessive bend on the ball. So let's have standard D's (like on the Bay Horse) at the very least - or bigger - to encourage (as they would say in the chess world) an 'open game'.
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Post by daveuk1 on Nov 28, 2017 22:37:20 GMT
Entries expected from the white horse Colin Norledge Brendan Hoare Casey Parker Brett Parker Pete Lillie Dave Lillie Plus hopefully some of our KitCats team
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 17:34:18 GMT
... and sometimes a D of shorter width but longer in length. Which will Suffolk use, I wonder ? After much searching I've found an example of the lengthened D which seems to be specific to narrow tables, on this one here: I'm sure either Sav or myself could make you some if you asked us nicely !
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Post by daveuk1 on Nov 29, 2017 18:37:22 GMT
As this thread seems to have strayed away from the original topic I have Re named it.
Tommo we have all sorts of D sizes and shapes but no long thin ones I can think of. Most of ours are generally smaller though but hitting a ball stuck behind the centre hole, our 30 isn't a real problem, a little side and the ball will swerve around the 200 and 100 hole, thats if you are good enough so most of us just go off the side cushion, playing off the spot would only leave the side cushion option though
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Post by taffy on Dec 23, 2017 12:36:09 GMT
In my old league we had a large D on normal tables. you could just about touch the edge of a ball behind the 30 hole around a plump skittle. so I reckon we had 70-80mm half moon Ds.
Wisbech have a smaller D around 60mm I reckon.
Taffy
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Post by daveuk1 on Jan 10, 2018 21:35:40 GMT
Thats a lovely size D,
So far, I think its 45 entries, we should get at least another five local entries tomorrow, hopefully still a few more to come after that, Eastbourne have indicated they will be entering four so that takes us well into the 50s with still well over a month before the closing date and I think we are again going to cap the number of entries to 64
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Post by taffy on Feb 3, 2018 9:15:10 GMT
I for one am looking forward to playing 'proper' 4-Pin on narrow tables. Will add to the charm of the event. Oh Tommo..... I've heard of altering history but never before a ball was kicked or a shot was fired. Taffy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 10:30:33 GMT
Oh Tommo..... I've heard of altering history but never before a ball was kicked or a shot was fired. Taffy WTF ?
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Post by taffy on Feb 5, 2018 9:24:49 GMT
Well Tommo, I suppose it is what you mean by the word 'proper'. I take it to mean traditional or proper as it should be (meaning; as it has been in the past). did you mean a 'proper (good) game' or a good game on a 'proper' table?
Taffy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 12:02:33 GMT
All I meant by 'proper', Taffy, was the East Anglian event being played on Snookerette or equivalent tables and not on the wider Jelkes tables which the 3-Pinners who play the Open Circuit are so familiar with... It's not being defeatist, we're just relishing the prospect of a new challenge.
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