All England Singles & Ladies 2019

[NigelS]

This will take place on 20th October 2019 @ Totteridge Club

Can the representatives from each county put their team on this thread and confirm they are attending


SINGLES
Berkshire - DAVE ALDER
Bucks - MATT JONES
Hampshire - BARRY RADFORD
Kent - PAUL SAINSBURY
Northants - SIMON COLEMAN
Oxon - MARK TRAFFORD
Surrey - DENISE WILLS
Sussex - NIGEL SENIOR

Other?

LADIES
Berkshire - JANET BURNS
Bucks - DAWN JORDAN
Kent - NO LADY
Northants - NO LADY
Oxon - JENNY FLOREY
Surrey - ANITA BLACKMAN
Sussex - JAN BITHELL

Other?

[Chris]

Hampshire have a singles entry - Barry Radford

[NigelS]

Thanks Chrissie - I wasnt sure Hampshire were still affiliated to the AEBBA - is that not the case?

[jordans]

Me for the ladies and Matt for the mens please.

[Chris]

Hampshire are now they paid Gerry a couple of months ago but unless some have paid Gerry recently, a few counties are not.

[NigelS]

Thanks Dawn...

Ok Chrissie, I will put a space for Hampshire above, let us know if Barry is playing.

[Chris]

He is just spoke to him - thanks Nigel

[JB]

Sussex ladies - Jan Bithell
Sussex Men’s - Kevin Tunstall

[LEE_Cambs]

If the Singles winner is unavailable, can the County send the runner up? Thanks Lee (Cambs)

[Chris_Sav]

Sept 2, 2019 7:52:17 GMT LEE_Cambs said:

If the Singles winner is unavailable, can the County send the runner up? Thanks Lee (Cambs)

County sends whomever it chooses to represent them in AEBBA singles. It does not have to be their open singles champion. More severe restrictions apply solely to the AEBBA Pub Team Championship.

The only restriction is that the county represented is the only county that player may represent in AEBBA championships that year.

[LEE_Cambs]

Sept 2, 2019 8:49:22 GMT Chris_Sav said:

Sept 2, 2019 7:52:17 GMT LEE_Cambs said:

If the Singles winner is unavailable, can the County send the runner up? Thanks Lee (Cambs)

County sends whomever it chooses to represent them in AEBBA singles. It does not have to be their open singles champion. More severe restrictions apply solely to the AEBBA Pub Team Championship.

The only restriction is that the county represented is the only county that player may represent in AEBBA championships that year.

Thank you, Cambs have their Committee meeting tonight so I'll see if we can get interest for the comps.

[jelly]

Surrey - Anita Blackman for Ladies, Singles TBC

[jelly]

Surrey - Denise Wills for the singles

[Auntie Pauline]

Can you add Jenny Florey - Oxon to the Ladies please.

Good Luck Jenny xxx

[lawtie]

Janet Burns - Berkshire - for the Ladies, please.

I *think* Dave Alder will go for the Men's but I'll let him tell you himself if that's the case.

[NigelS]

Think we have all the entries.

Cambridge did enter last year with Morgan Wright - can they let me know ASAP whether they have anyone this year?

No Northants entry in AEBBA competitions - despite all the talent they have there ?

Not a protest vote, surely ?

NB Simon Coleman threw his hat into the ring as a late entry.

[NigelS]

AE Singles 2 Groups, Winners to play off in final

AE1 Denise Wills Surrey
AE2 Mark Trafford Oxon
AE3 Simon Coleman Northants
AE4 Dave Alder Berks

AE5 Barry Radford Hants
AE6 Paul Sainsbury Kent
AE7 Matt Jones Bucks
AE8 Nigel Senior Sussex
AE9 Lee Mason Cambs

[NigelS]

AE Ladies 5 players, round robin, winner of group wins title

L1 Jenny Florey Oxon
L2 Anita Blackman Surrey
L3 Dawn Jordan Bucks
L4 Jan Bithell Sussex
L5 Janet Burns Berks

[jan]

Do we have start times for this and for the 50s/60s yet?

thanks in advance, Jan

[NigelS]

Oct 18, 2019 9:44:59 GMT jan said:

Do we have start times for this and for the 50s/60s yet?

thanks in advance, Jan

Hi Jan

Start time is 11am. It is over 50s games first, but if we could all aim to be there for the 11am start as the draws have been done and we will of course need scorers!

Nige

[Chris]

Many, many congratulations to Dawn Jordan on winning the All England Ladies today.

I believe there were some fabulous breaks.

Dawn 12k+
Jenny 11K+

Brilliant scores, what can I say ….

Well done Jenny I believe runner up and a fabulous break from you as well.

Chris xxx

[Chris]

So whom won the singles ?

[bigjimsilverfox]

Oct 20, 2019 20:16:05 GMT Chris said:

So whom won the singles ?

Paul Sainsbury beat Mark Trafford in the men's
Ladies was won by Dawn Jordan 👍

[Chris]

Thanks Jim

Well done Paul

Chris x

[LEE_Cambs]

Thank you to the organisers, was great to attend.

The tables in Cambs are VERY different and the standard is a lot lower but it was good to see how you guys play and I definitely picked up some tips ahead of the Under 30s and Cambridgeshire Singles.

Great experience thank you.

[NigelS]

Oct 21, 2019 7:09:58 GMT LEE_Cambs said:

Thank you to the organisers, was great to attend.

The tables in Cambs are VERY different and the standard is a lot lower but it was good to see how you guys play and I definitely picked up some tips ahead of the Under 30s and Cambridgeshire Singles.

Great experience thank you.

Glad you enjoyed it Lee, you will benefit from the experience of playing the better players and better tables. We had a good game - 20k v 10k over the 2 legs, I only just pulled away with my last break. Hope to see you (and maybe some other Cambridge players) in more AEBBA events in the future.

[jiffy]

Debated all day as to whether to say anything but firstly a huge congratulations to dawn on winning yesterday very close in the end, secondly after all other comps where winners AND runners up were announced I more or less had to force some sort of reconition for being runner up. I'm not trophy hunting but it's hard enough for us few ladies that are still playing,at least can we be noticed in future?

[jordans]

Was really pleased to have won the Ladies yesterday, after many, many attempts!! It was a very close day, with Jenny and I both winning 3 out of our matches and coming down to aggregate. Thank you to everyone who made yesterday possible, and all the hard work you do. Having played in the over 50's and the ladies I played nearly all the tables, and they were all excellent.

I was absolutely made up to win it...............but..............

I am totally with Jenny. I also don't usually write on here but was really disappointed. We had a presentation that went straight into the Ladies winner, no recognition for the runner up at all. Also, having done a 12,400 break (which I have never done in competition before) and scoring a 10,800 break for Jenny, there was not even a mention of those. Then we came to the Men's - Matthews break of 25,700 was mentioned (and very rightly so), and there was a cash prize for the men's runner up. Now, before you all jump down my throat, I know there were two groups for the men, creating a final, but it was not our fault there was no representative from Kent, Northants or Hampshire to have two groups.

Now I am not blaming anyone, and Pete & Dave could only present the trophies/prize money they had, but perhaps next year this could be looked at.

Oct 21, 2019 17:12:04 GMT jordans said:

Was really pleased to have won the Ladies yesterday, after many, many attempts!! It was a very close day, with Jenny and I both winning 3 out of our matches and coming down to aggregate. Thank you to everyone who made yesterday possible, and all the hard work you do. Having played in the over 50's and the ladies I played nearly all the tables, and they were all excellent.

I was absolutely made up to win it...............but..............

I am totally with Jenny. I also don't usually write on here but was really disappointed. We had a presentation that went straight into the Ladies winner, no recognition for the runner up at all. Also, having done a 12,400 break (which I have never done in competition before) and scoring a 10,800 break for Jenny, there was not even a mention of those. Then we came to the Men's - Matthews break of 25,700 was mentioned (and very rightly so), and there was a cash prize for the men's runner up. Now, before you all jump down my throat, I know there were two groups for the men, creating a final, but it was not our fault there was no representative from Kent, Northants or Hampshire to have two groups.

Now I am not blaming anyone, and Pete & Dave could only present the trophies/prize money they had, but perhaps next year this could be looked at.

Thanks for the feedback - I have received it loud and clear from several quarters today.

I must be honest, I have found it difficult to manage the competing demands from the entrants to these events.

In response to repeated requests we removed the charge that was previously levied for All England singles events in 2018. In addition, we introduced prize money for the first time in over a decade to further recognise the tremendous achievement it is to win these events. This was maintained as far as possible this year. It was therefore hoped that we would secure adequate sponsorship to ensure that all rewards could be maintained. Sadly, as you can review from my thread requesting support, this has fallen rather on deaf ears and sometimes it is difficult to convince our already generous existing sponsors to go beyond their planned commitment. But even still, the rewards in 2018 and 2019 far exceeded that of the previous ten events and with no entry charge to boot - surely that is worthy of recognition?

Whilst it is true that it is not the entrants fault that there were only five entries for the women’s event - it makes it rather hard to justify three trophies and two cash prizes for this event but we will seek to do better next year and hopefully subsidise it through reinstating the entry charge or by finding additional sponsors.

That said, there was no high break prize or trophy for the men, but there was a small cash prize for the runner up.

I agree that it is not acceptable that the women’s high break and runner up were not even mentioned - sadly it is clearly an unintended oversight. I did not write the closing comments that were delivered and so cannot comment on the content - but can offer my apologies. We ALWAYS try our best to recognise all performances when we round up events as well as thanking our hosts, sponsors, helpers and - obviously - Dave for everything he does.

I will contact Jenny directly to personally apologise for this. And will ensure that you are properly recognised for your remarkable achievements yesterday.

May I finish by offering my hearty congratulations to you on your event win.