Results week 12/12/2007

[Dave Anscombe]

Stadium A 2-3 Windmill C

Good match with not all games going with break. :)
Sure bigtj will post scores etc later.

Romans B 3 - 2 Wellie B

1. C. Cox 2640 - 4080 N. Simmonds. Nic started the night off well for The Wellie. 0-1
2. B. Thomas 2230 - 1620 G. Frizzell. Both Bob And Garry tried not to score by pegging and missing balls during spells of this game. Bob cleared up the last balls to level. 1-1
3. S. Hurley 1310- 5400 T. Scotney. Steve had no luck at all and a 3k break from Tim sealed the game. 1-2
4. R. Marsh 1920 - 1420 M. Senior. Marks turn with no luck. Roy played a steady, if low scoring, game. 2-2
5. C. Green 5790 - 3610 J. Perrin. The crunch game. After me messing up the opening break, scoring 200, Colin got the break back and scored 2-3k. I then got the break and was going nicely until I had scored just under 3k. I played a slightly iffy split and left the red on the edge of the left 50 and a white on the edge of the right 30. Colin scored another couple k and effectively winning the match. 3-2

All in all, a good evening at the Romans.

[SirKT]

Duke of Wellie `A` 1 Three Horseshoes 4

Now listening to Ian & Mark about the Wellie table last week, i expected pretty much the same thing last night but i was wrong.
Totally different apparently, no serious deviations at all.

D.Bartram 0 Kt 3710
B.Wescott 1320 Ian 5740
B.Bartrum 4680 Ricky 1120
J.Tailor 0 Mark 5400
R.Chuter 1790 Mal 7080

Excellent pizza as usual :)

[little legs]

Albion 1 Dyke A 4

Alan got the Albion off to a winning start but then the rest of us failed to take advantage of our breaks with Dave Reeves,Kev Simmonds,Micky Winder and Colin Smith all winning.
Next week we hope for more as we play the Dyke again in the cup.

[NigelS]

Kendal 1 - 4 Brewery Tap A

Chris Darvill 1,230* - 8,550 Chris Reeves
Dave Richings 2,870* - 3,360 Marc Chipman
Pete Muckle 2,770* - 3,340 Rich Wooton
Tony Witcomb 2,260* - 3,910 Gareth Lloyd
Peter Witcomb 3,830* - 2,260 Nigel Senior

Game 1 - Well I have never seen someone walk out of a pub mid game before but Chris Darvill managed to get himslef so wound up he did so in game 1. Poor Chris (Reeves) was chasing 1k, and was getting not very nice comments by the time he got to 2k, and by 3k the game was over when Chris (Darvill)) walked out. Dave Richings took over, but our attention had gone off the game somewhat. 1-0

Game 2 - Marc did enough in the end to secure a 2-0 lead.

Game 3 - Richard was behind for a long time as Pete built up a decent lead, Richard came back to win by 600 and secure the points for the Tap 3-0.

Game 4 - Gareth topped scored for the night with 3,910 and put the Tap 4-0 in front.

Game 5 - Pete Witcomb put me through my second defeat in a row against 2nd division opposition with a creditable 3,830 score 4-1

[Q]

Does Chris Reeves 8½k not count then?

[NigelS]

q said:

Does Chris Reeves 8½k not count then?

Well I will count it under the circumstances, Q, Dave Richings took over the game and I don't see why reevesey should be punished for the actions of another player. It was a very disappointing attitude form Chris Darvill, who, when he can be bothered is a good player, but as I think i have mentioned before in Brighton post if you are defeated before a ball is struck you inevitably lose.

[Colemanator]

Did he come back?

[NigelS]

chimp said:

Did he come back?

No Ian we did not see Chris again that night

[racehorse]

Oh dear sounds like the toys got thrown out the pram. What would have happened if Chris went on to black peg and Dave beat him? Would the game still have been allowed to stand then? I agree Chris should get the points for the win though, has this ever happened before? Just interested.

[NigelS]

racehorse said:

Oh dear sounds like the toys got thrown out the pram. What would have happened if Chris went on to black peg and Dave beat him? Would the game still have been allowed to stand then? I agree Chris should get the points for the win though, has this ever happened before? Just interested.

I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened before, there are some tempermental players in bar billiards. After all we had someone walk out of the All England Singles with 2 matches left to play last year.

Had Chris black pegged I guess the game should still be awarded to the Tap. The game was effectively forfeited by the Kendal when Chris Darvill walked out - but that is just my opinion, I am not sure there is a rule to cover this. The fact Dave took over was just to allow Chris to finish his game and increase his score.

[bigtj]

Seems the throwing of toys from the pram is becoming a bit of a problem, and this looks to be a ridiculous case of it , the Kendal had all five breaks and by the scores the table was not that high scoring and the games could have gone either way. We all go out to win our game but surely are playing a mainly amatuer game, where this could be consrued as unsporting behaviour. Well done to Dave for standing in, and the score surely has to stand as Chris is totally the innocent party in the event.

Is there any league rules to cover unsporting behaviour or is it just a matter of people making themselves look a fool by their immature attitude.

Well said, TJ.

The only way most of us have been able to keep going for as long as we have is that we have learned to take the rough with the smooth.

And as regards conduct, gentlemanly or otherwise, it's an unwritten law that applies in any sport.

[BFG]

As you rightly point out this is an amateur sport "at the end of the day" tempers can rise for no real reason and things happen that we regret,

As far as the score is concerned surely both players should be present at the point the bar drops, should that not be the case it would become a forfeit game with relevant rules applying. IE WSBBL would give the no opponent player the win point plus average score for our rankings table.

The down side is that consequently no break scored during the game would be recorded, bit b******s really if you have just put highest away for decades!

[BFG]

But there is not a rule tht actually covers that situation, think it would be just a case of catergorising the event for us, looks like another rule addition for our AGM!

[Chris_Sav]

Unfortunate!! what upset him enough to make him walk out?

There is nothing in the AEBBA rules to ensure that the guilty player gets punished and innocent players are not penalised.

Sav.

I've had a think about this and the only sport I can relate this situation to is Boxing - when a competitor throws in the towel to save him from further punishment.

The last official set of playing rules that I ever saw said "under no circumstances shall a substitute be allowed once the game has started."

I think it would be beneficial to transfer this to SAV's Rules thread called "what have I missed".

My recommendation would be that a player is entitled to refuse to play another shot, but in such a case the opponent is allowed to stay on the table unopposed for the remainder of the game whether he/she misses or not.