petem
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Post by petem on May 10, 2007 6:41:09 GMT
Can someone let me know how to put a rule change proposal to the committee.I presume it would have to be seconded and discussed at the AGM
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Post by barneybear on May 10, 2007 12:03:05 GMT
Not sure of the exact rules, but a committe member will tell you.
Might be worth discussing it on here first though - saves time at the AGM
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Post by Mark James on May 10, 2007 13:17:34 GMT
An ex-Worthing League Secretary writes....... :)
To propose a rule amendment, you need to submit your proposal in writing to the League Secretary at least 14 days (I'm not 100% certain of the number of days, but that's pretty close I think) before the AGM. It should also be seconded by another member of the league.
Then what should happen is that the secretary publishes in advance of the AGM details of any proposals received. The idea being that league members will know beforehand what is on the agenda, so that they can ensure their own attendance at the meeting if they hold strong views on the subject.
That's the theory, anyway.
Barneybears point is a good one, though, discussion on this forum might well be a good idea for the reason stated.
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petem
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Post by petem on May 10, 2007 14:23:20 GMT
Thanks to Mark and Barneybear I know the topic has been debated before,but I was wondering about putting forward a proposal for matches to be played as drawn as per cup matches,instead of nominated playing order.I know this is a subject close to Tommo's heart Your thoughts are invited
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2007 14:48:31 GMT
Well I don't wan't to try and influence Worthing matters, but yes I have been beating that particular drum for the County Interleague for several years.
I intend to propose the change-back yet again this year for consideration at the AGM - despite being a member of the winning Redhill A side which used the current rule so successfully to our own advantage ! ;D
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Post by barneybear on May 11, 2007 11:31:22 GMT
I feel Pete's proposal has obvous merits, but also feel in this day and age with everyone having less spare time that it is impractical. In our own team I'm sure everyone knows that Gary Ridley, due to work commitments, rarely arrives before the middle of the third game and over at the Swan Barry Holt usually leaves about the same time.
In fact have Gary and Barry ever met? ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2007 11:38:41 GMT
(Sticks beak in)
I don't think Pete was advocating a "stick rigidly to the order of play as drawn" idea, Paul.
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Post by barneybear on May 11, 2007 18:00:42 GMT
(Sticks beak in)I don't think Pete was advocating a "stick rigidly to the order of play as drawn" idea, Paul. So using my previous example how would Gary and Barry get their game played if drawn together? I know it works for cup matches, but to do it every game of the season would need a lot of give and take from the captains. And it would be particularly difficult for Inter-League with 7 games.
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Post by bigtj on May 11, 2007 18:31:36 GMT
Personal view is that it takes away theneed for a captain and some of the tactical decisions that can be made by the captain.
Also agree with Barnie that it does restrict players arrival and leaving time, although you could give the leeway of swappping games 1 and 3 or 2 and 4.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2007 19:23:44 GMT
Speaking purely about SCBBA, as I say Worthing being none of my business. I am against - and always have been against - the idea that the captain plays God and decides who plays who and whether or not they have first break. The logistics of accomodating a late arrival or early getaway seems minor compared with redressing something so morally wrong.
And this is speaking as one who would probably lose out if ever it were changed back to how it was ten-plus years ago: I get picked by Redhill because they know a) I don't mind turning up and not playing and b) am willing to play against the break each time at the risk of not getting a go, as my best years are long behind me. If it changed back to a fairer system they would no doubt wish to put out their best seven each time and I would probably not even get picked at all !
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Post by petem on May 11, 2007 21:31:22 GMT
Well I have started something haven't I.I agree that there should be some give and take with regard to latecomers/early leavers.I also understand that quite a few teams usually travel with more than the 5 players on the night and the captain decides who to leave out. All of last season we had 6 or 7 players available and even though I was the 'new boy' and wanted to play every match I was happy just to go along for the experience You would still need a captain to ensure that all arangements for the evening were in place in played as drawn matches In my previous life as captain of the Mucky Duck B I always made sure that there were enough players on the night and after surveying the opposition would decide the 5 to play,even dropping myself on occasions.We obviously weren't of the highest standard back then but you still needed to have a chance of glory I don't think there is an easy answer,which is why I asked the question in the first place,although I think in played as drawn there is more of a chance for us lesser players to take the scalps of the top names I will get the view of my team,if there is someone who will second the proposal I will put it to the committee at the AGM Obviously I don't want to rock the boat(me being a newbee!) and I don't know how long the nominated player rule has been in place but is it time for a change?
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Post by davejones on May 12, 2007 20:17:04 GMT
I believe in the addage if it ain't broke don't fix it.
I think a captain's role is all important in our game.
For instance if my team are say 2-1 down I could play a better player with the break hoping he can win the game then maybe I will have a chance of taking a game against the break in the last game.
Also, if a player isn't in the best of form, a captain can play him with the break against a reasonable player to win the game and increase his confidence and maybe he will be back on form.
A player with the break against a opponent who is equal/better than him can win the game.
None of these things a captain can do if the matches are played as drawn.
In Worthing, this rule was changed as teams were
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