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Post by davethetaxman on Jan 23, 2011 22:04:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 22:20:32 GMT
Hi Dave,
Someone claiming to have just bought the Sheffield table has just joined the Forum and I expect we'll be hearing from him shortly!
Regarding the latest 'Bristol SAMs', on the face of it looks very nice, but it looks like the 'Narrow' version to me. You could ask the Seller the dimensions if you want to ask a question.
By the position of the 4 pins, it has not had 'proper' bar billiards played on it for a while (there is no D nor baulk marking).
The inclusion of a cue rack, nicely turned pegs and table cover (if wooden) are good selling points, though.
tommo
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Post by davethetaxman on Jan 24, 2011 9:12:22 GMT
Thanks Tommo for your reply.
The lack of markings ( D + spots ) was something I did not see at first
How difficult would it be to add the markings?
Will fire some questions off to the seller today about:
* dimensions
* slate condition
* leg fixings
* age of machine
* markings
Any idea on the value ??
Thanks again
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 13:45:58 GMT
When deciding the value, much will depend on whether it is a standard width table (37") or a 'Narrow One' - a couple of inches less. You would be surprised at the difference in play, the narrowing of natural angles is very restrictive.
If you only want to play 4-pin on it, though, and don't want to score more than 1,000 on it, that obviously doesn't matter.
There's no denying that as it stands, the table looks in tip-top condition and a really smart piece of furniture. The fact that it's had £350 spent on it should mean that the slate, legs, cushions and cloth are all perfectly sound, and the pockets look in excellent condition - no signs of wear around them.
The Vendor however will be extremely lucky to recoup this expenditure - unless it is sold to someone or some organisation who wants it for 4-pin. It could go for as much as £600 or £700 to a less discerning buyer.
Leather D, spots, and baulk markings not a problem - very cheap and easy to do.
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Post by Colemanator on Jan 24, 2011 15:00:45 GMT
I can also deduce that the house it sits in is a converted bungalow 8-)
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 24, 2011 17:56:59 GMT
Looks in good nick but it's a narrow Sams
Sav
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Post by davethetaxman on Jan 24, 2011 22:18:47 GMT
Ok before I make a bid
Would a narrow SAMS as a first table be such a disadvantage over a standard SAMS bearing in mind this is for my games room. Also as it looks of good quality wouldn't it be fairly easy to sell on if I decided at some future date a standard table might be more suitable.
What do you guys think please
Cheers
Dave
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 23:18:59 GMT
Bearing in mind the whole package - refurbished table; cue rack; table cover (if wooden) and scoreboard that fits as a backboard - you may be forgiven for finding it suitable for your games room.
I wouldn't go far above the opening bid asking price of £500, though- £600 tops.
If you were to try and buy a cue-rack or scoreboard of that ilk, you'd have to shell out over £60 anyway. So add that to the outlay for the refurbishment, and the vendor would effectively be giving it away for next to nothing.
SAMs are not particularly rare though, and if you are patient you might find a good Riley or an average Jelkes for that money. You may even find one with a different colour cloth (blue or red) which though gimmicky would be a good talking point for your games room, and be easier to sell on than a 'narrow' table.
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Post by HORNBLOWER on Jan 30, 2011 11:13:13 GMT
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