beefy
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Post by beefy on Feb 18, 2009 16:28:59 GMT
::) must of failed the eye test then ;D How did I miss that ;D Your opponent will have an easy game in that case as you might fail to see the holes !
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Post by milhouse on Feb 18, 2009 18:24:13 GMT
Forgot to mention with the other change in the schedule - Paul Butcher v Gareth Lloyd has been put back to 1.45
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 19:37:03 GMT
::) must of failed the eye test then ;D How did I miss that ;D Your opponent will have an easy game in that case as you might fail to see the holes ! ;D Been mostly guess work so far anyways. Don't even know where the pegs are either ;D
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Post by J Addley on Feb 18, 2009 21:46:42 GMT
Pete Apologies for the late notice but due to work commitments i will be unable to atend the open this Saturday Sorry JJ
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Post by BB Warrior on Feb 19, 2009 9:13:27 GMT
Here is the draw with start times, split into groups, so easy for making predictions for the start of the 2009 tipsters ;) Second Round 66 Stuart Giles 1:00 49 Richard Jeffries T 9 Good luck all I don't think that Sir Jock (Richard Jeffreys) will be able to make it either. :-/
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Post by peetee on Feb 19, 2009 18:47:20 GMT
Pete Apologies for the late notice but due to work commitments i will be unable to atend the open this Saturday Sorry JJ Thanks for letting me know you have been replaced by Geoff Mace
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mossy
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Post by mossy on Feb 19, 2009 19:03:02 GMT
i will get a couple of prizes for the raffle pete.
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Post by peetee on Feb 20, 2009 9:07:17 GMT
i will get a couple of prizes for the raffle pete. Appreciated :)
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Post by ponytailguy on Feb 20, 2009 21:25:58 GMT
I can confirm that richard jeffries will not be attending tomorrow
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Post by BB Warrior on Feb 22, 2009 9:11:47 GMT
Congratulations to Tony Martin (Oxon) for winning the Oxfordshire Open yesterday, beating Tony Willis in the final and also to Stuart Giles for his win in the Plate competition against Paul Sainsbury.
Many thanks to Peetee, Millhouse, Milko and the rest of the organisers for a very well run day at an excellent venue. 8-) ;D
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Feb 22, 2009 9:37:48 GMT
Congratulations to the Winners. A very well run competition, Well done to the organizers. A great day :D ;)
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Post by bigtj on Feb 22, 2009 10:43:53 GMT
Congratulations to the winners and runners up. Well done pettee on first effort on running open, well organised day.
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Post by H on Feb 22, 2009 13:24:29 GMT
Many many thanks to Peetee and Milhouse for what was an incredibly enjoyable day, even for me who was knocked out by Mr Millward in the 2nd Round!! Of course congratulations to the winners and runners up on what were a set of very challenging tables!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2009 13:28:04 GMT
Well done Peetee, it was a good day for myself and my family. It was a pleasure to put a face to the name ;) Hopefully we will meet you again in future Oxford Opens. Well done. 8-)
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Post by peetee on Feb 22, 2009 15:52:53 GMT
Thank You everyone for an enjoyable day I think everything went very well. :) Bit tired at the end of the day though perhaps the beer didn't help ;D Congratulations to Tony Martin who beat Tony Willis in the final, well deserved after knocking out KT.
Please feel free to put your comments about the day on this thread, good or bad i'm interested to know.
All the best Pete Ewins
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Post by H on Feb 22, 2009 16:15:21 GMT
To be open, and I think most will agree, the day as a whole, the organisation, and the venue (except perhaps the tight space when there were lots there at the beginning of the day) were spot on. The tables on the other hand were really not up to the standard I would expect from a national open. I am amongst a lot of people who are very grateful for all the effort Brian puts in with his set of tournament tops, and he does a fantastic job in making sure we have a full complement for a whole host of tournaments around the country, but the actual standard of the tables, sadly, leaves a lot to be desired.
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Post by davejones on Feb 22, 2009 16:24:27 GMT
Congratulations to the winners and runner ups.
It was a very long day I feel that timings could've been tighter.
But it does not help when repeated requests for scorers when players who are not involved are standing by not offering to score for players in their own league!
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Post by BB Warrior on Feb 22, 2009 16:36:49 GMT
H, I think you mean BRIAN (and Tony) rather than Graham......!! ::)
I would agree that some of the tables were quite tricky yesterday and Table 7 was definitely not up to the usual standard that we enjoy at tournaments (or even at many League venues), but you have to bear in mind that the tables have been in storage for a few months since being used for the last competition.
However........ and Table 7 excepted....... the remaining tables were all playable, even if there did not seem to be as many really big scores/breaks as you would perhaps expect given the standard of the players that were there.
Personally speaking, I like the fact that all of the tables offer slightly different challenges and surely it should be up to the players to adapt to the tables?
I would agree that, when everybody was there during the morning, there wasn't much room to be able to move around the playing area to watch the games, but apart from that it's a good venue.
Possibly next year, an additional table could be used, which would cut down the overall playing time of the Tournament by quite a bit? Having set off from Brighton at 8.30am, we didn't get home until well after Midnight in the end..... :o
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Post by H on Feb 22, 2009 17:20:08 GMT
I agree with Dave's argument - but from a very Selfish personal point of view, I was completely unable to play my natural game or get into any kind of rhythm yesterday, and thats how I play - I can indeed adapt to rolls/variations etc - but when most of the time a break shot whips out, you can't settle down - how am I, a fairly mid-standard player in the grand scheme of things, supposed to compete against the big guns if I can't even give it my all?
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Post by SirKT on Feb 22, 2009 17:32:27 GMT
Simple H, you have to adapt. You wont get to the top of the game just playing straight level tables, it doesn`t happen like that. Admittedly, in an open you don`t have a great deal of time to suss a table out, but the more different types of top you play, the more experienced you will get. I done something yesterday that i`ve never done before......... leaving the break short, TWICE in one match and it cost me dearly, how frustrating is that! But that`s Bar Billiards i`m afraid
I love the challenge of tricky tables, if they were all the same, the game would be very boring. ;)
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Post by SirKT on Feb 22, 2009 17:43:31 GMT
Congratulations to my old Doubles partner, Tony Martin, on winning his first Open title (beating me on the way :-X). Not bad for an over 60 eh? Well done also to my current partner, Mr Reaper, for reaching the semis. I thought once he knocked Milko out, the title was there for the taking. But he also fell to Tony.
Well done to Pete Sainsbury & Tony Willis for their efforts, semi finalist & finalist.
The last 16 proved to be a crucial round, with Gareth Lloyd, Richard Wooton, Nigel Senior, myself & Leon Beer all losing. Mark Turner (defending champ) & Milko looked to be favourites thereafter, but both lost in the quarter finals.
Well done to the organisers and to Murph & the Conservative club for having us. Leon`s mum Jenny was superb in the kitchen. Looking forward to next year already ;)
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Post by H on Feb 22, 2009 17:47:26 GMT
Indeed. I do agree and I would never expect perfectly flat straight tables, I like a few quirks - I just felt they were a little too tricky yesterday, and not just from the games I played, but from watching some of the top ranked players in the country struggle like hell on them.
I will learn - I'm young and inexperienced - AND worst of all, very tempermental but I'm learning everyday - and nearly beating Jim yesterday on table 7 - which, contrary to a lot of others, I thought was a good table apart from the dead back half - was a huge confidence boost. As I said I had a great day and this wasn't meant to be a big moan, was just pointing out I was disappointed once again with the tables (mainly based on the fact that at the last open I attended - the Sussex Open 2005 - the tables were all absolutely gorgeous).
Sorry if I have offended anyone with my comments - I am desperately trying to work my way up in the BB world at the moment and I keep hitting setbacks. Should put out a lonely hearts style ad:
Young, inexperienced and overly hot-headed BB player seeking top level advice and encouragement ;)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2009 18:27:00 GMT
I might of travelled 208 miles, but at least I learnt something there. My attitude towards tables is changing and I do believe in adapting to tables is a skill very few have. One that I would like to learn. To see KT beat on Table 6 helped me to realise this. I saw people missing the break and one up placement. However Tony got on their and looked like he was at home. He could of played it out. You really have to congratulate him on that acheivement of adapting. I will be booking my next trip to the Pompy open ;D hopefully I will show my form. It saddens me that I seem to under achieve at an Open. I think it is just the lack of experience, hopefully I will be playing to my potential in April. 8-)
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Post by NigelS on Feb 22, 2009 22:42:47 GMT
I do agree with KT in that adapting to tables is one of the key parts to winning opens. You can't expect them all to be easy or to suit your game, but you have to try and score and find a way of winning on all tables you play.
I also agree that the tables were tough yesterday but not too surprising since they have been stored away since the Grand Prix. I do think that linseeding the pockets would help - they were very whippy yesterday. I am sure though they were set up as best as the table setters can do, I know from experience that it is very difficult to setup 9 tables - and they do change as the day goes on and there is very little that can be done about that.
For those players who are finding it hard to adapt to tables at opens, I would say there is definitely an art to it, but expect it to take time. I used to always go out on the tricky tables and usually to the more experienced players. It took me 9 years to win an open in 2006 and I was attending them all from around 2001.
It is great to make big scores regularly on your home league top which you know like the back of your hand, but doing it on a table you have never hit a shot on is a different proposition altogether. I knew playing Mark Turner on tricky table 3 would be very tough yesterday as he always plays the difficult tops so well, and sure enough I was 14k behind, I made 13k in reply which wasn;t enough but I still count it as one of the best breaks I have ever made even though I lost as the table was so tough.
It is interesting that (I think it is fair to say) 4 outsiders were semi finalists yesterday, and on paper pretty equally matched. But the player that had been there before, Tony Martin, won through in the end. I am sure the 3 finals he has been in before was a big advantage at that stage and the fact none of the others had been there before. Your can't buy that sort of experience, and I do believe you don't stop learning at this game.
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Post by H on Feb 23, 2009 0:04:08 GMT
I have found reading the comments above very encouraging. Its very disheartening when you feel you are doing something wrong but can't work out exactly what it is. I guess I need to learn to be patient, and the words of Nige and KT will hopefully point me in the right direction. I have a lot to learn and I'm willing to admit that so again, I hope I haven't offended anyone with my comments.
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Post by barbelman on Feb 23, 2009 8:18:43 GMT
May I add my congratulations to Tony Martin on his excellent performance throughout the day and his comprehensive thrashing of me in the Final - a thoroughly deserved victory by one of the most watchable players around. Thanks also to Pete and Mark for the organisation of a great day - spoiled only by the shouty bits at the end of the Plate final (well done BTW Stuart). I think the four semi-finalists reflected the need for adaptability rather than endurance, given the difficulty of some of the tables. While resisting the feeling that I somehow need to apologise for reaching the Final, I do think that it was refreshing to see a few different names in there, rather than what has become an almost processional list of winners (and perhaps the reason why entries to Opens are well down in recent years) Long live the Open fodder and the 'outsiders' eh Nigel!
cheers Tony
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Feb 23, 2009 8:35:27 GMT
The Opens are not easy and i dont think they ever will be! You have alot of top players entering them, and you always end up with Challanging tables.
As both Kt and Nigel said it all comes with experience. This Years Oxford Open is the furthest i have ever got in an Open and believe me it is Not the first one i have entered. I have been playing in them for 3 years now, and the tables are always challanging! But you will learn to adapt to them as you enter more you will also pick up more shots to help you on the way rather than, Break, 1up, Split. ie my shot against Dave Jones- Rim the 50 of the cushion, get the cue ball to spit out the 10 hole to hit the ball between the 10 and 100 pocket and sinking it in to the 100 leaving you with a nice easy break back shot ;D ;D
The other thing to remember is you must take your chances when you get them! Because belive me you dont get many chances in these opens against these the Top Open Players.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 9:21:23 GMT
I have already congratulated my buddy the Reaper, but would like to pay my homages too to Barbelman, a stalwart of our forum's Quiz Room. Getting to the Final of a main Open is a wonderful achievement. Well done, Tony! 8-)
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gittler
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Post by gittler on Feb 23, 2009 13:21:31 GMT
May I add my congratulations to Tony Martin on his excellent performance throughout the day and his comprehensive thrashing of me in the Final - a thoroughly deserved victory by one of the most watchable players around. Thanks also to Pete and Mark for the organisation of a great day - spoiled only by the shouty bits at the end of the Plate final (well done BTW Stuart). I think the four semi-finalists reflected the need for adaptability rather than endurance, given the difficulty of some of the tables. While resisting the feeling that I somehow need to apologise for reaching the Final, I do think that it was refreshing to see a few different names in there, rather than what has become an almost processional list of winners (and perhaps the reason why entries to Opens are well down in recent years) Long live the Open fodder and the 'outsiders' eh Nigel! cheers Tony
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gittler
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Post by gittler on Feb 23, 2009 13:24:24 GMT
what does BTW stand for?
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