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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 16:42:44 GMT
Eastbourne bar billiards have upto 6 entrants for 10th april 2011 please send an application form or contact details asap ta csouthouse At Moneyfields SSC on Sunday 10th April. Entry form here: www.aebba.org.uk/Entry%20Forms/portsmouth.pdf
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 11:25:16 GMT
Will there be a confirmation list, like the Oxford Open?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 9:59:40 GMT
Hopefully, Johnny.
Should be quite a few there from Surrey this year, saw forms and money flying around yesterday. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 10:42:48 GMT
Please enter Clive Thompson and Margaret Thompson for this competition. Our form and entry money in the post today.
Attention MID (Mary Daniels): We note the closing date for entry is 19th March (next week).........Have you had much in the way of a response so far ? tommo.
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Post by MID on Mar 15, 2011 20:34:45 GMT
Entries into the Portsmouth Open so far are as follows: Harry Mortimore Hants Richard Hockey Hants Stuart Penney Hants Dave Rowley Hants Mike Messenbird Hants Connor Messenbird Hants Bill Messenbird Hants Dick House Hants Tony Woolvin Hants Daniel Woolvin Hants Graham Crosbie Hants Tony Webster Hants Chris Newson Hants Barry Radford Hants Lee Radford Hants Graham Newson Hants Dennis Claydon Hants Bill Houlton Hants Simon Ellam Oxon Sue Atkins Oxon Dennis Atkins Oxon Stewart Chant ?Sussex Colin Southouse Sussex Jason Akehurst Sussex Heather Akehurst Sussex Martin Smith Sussex Curt Driver Kent Gerry Fitzjohn Kent Dave Ingram Sussex Colleen Park Sussex Roger Taylor Sussex Gary Powell Surrey Jason Wadsworth Surrey Colin Robbins Surrey Dave Constable Surrey Tony Cross Surrey Ian Lelliott Sussex Dave France Sussex Pete Sainsbury Kent Richard Corbould Kent Kate Corbould Kent Paul Sainsbury Berks Chris Bateman Oxon Sonya McIntyre Oxon Arthur McIntyre Oxon Ian Major Oxon Kevin Tunstall Sussex Richard Wooton Sussex Nigel Senior Sussex Sam Alder Berks Dave Alder Berks Pete Soames Oxon Geoff Powell Oxon Marianne French Oxon Mark Trafford Oxon Ian Gordon Oxon Sid Ponting Oxon Leon Beer Oxon Kevin Hall Sussex Sandra Race Sussex Lorraine Hall Sussex Robert Hall Sussex Clive Thompson Surrey Margaret Thompson Surrey Mark James Sussex N Wilkinson Guernsey Aaron Hill Surrey Tony Martin Oxon Colin Martin Oxon Gareth Lloyd Sussex WAITING PAYMENT Paul Wing Hants Mike Jones Oxon Keith Sheard Oxon Steven Sheard Oxon Pauline Withey Oxon Ian Moss Oxon Burt Lovegrove Oxon Paul Butcher Oxon Pete Edwards Sussex Tony Jenner Sussex Jenny Edwards Sussex Bill Kerr Sussex Dave Jones Sussex Sean Stratford Oxon WAITING PAYMENT Lewis Stratford Oxon WAITING PAYMENT
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Post by curtd on Mar 15, 2011 22:35:05 GMT
Hi
Did I put mark Brewster on the entry form ? If so that's wrong as mark won't be going.it should have been Gerry Fitzjohn. Can this please be changed ? Many thanks Curt Many thanks. Curt
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Post by colinm on Mar 15, 2011 23:16:17 GMT
Would you please add Tony Martin and Colin Martin to the list I missed you at the open on Sunday morning, will it be ok for us to pay on the day?
Many Thanks Colin
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Post by milhouse on Mar 16, 2011 8:26:33 GMT
On the form, i put myself, Sid and Ian Gordon, can you please check, thanks
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Post by Baby Guinness on Mar 16, 2011 9:58:19 GMT
Could you please add Pete and Jenny Edwards, will put form in post
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Post by milko on Mar 16, 2011 12:29:20 GMT
Can you please enter Pauline Withey, Steven Sheard, Keith Sheard & Ian Moss, cheque in the post.
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Post by MID on Mar 17, 2011 15:09:16 GMT
Sorry, yes Ian Gordon is on list, I had a few things playing up (pc wise) when doing list, plan to update it tonight.
We need Cheques as closing date is upon us!!!
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Post by bigtj on Mar 17, 2011 18:01:19 GMT
Please enter Tony Jenner, Bill Kerr, Dave Jones cheque entry form in post today, thank you
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Post by colinm on Mar 18, 2011 8:50:48 GMT
Would you please add Tony Martin and Colin Martin to the list I missed you at the open on Sunday morning, will it be ok for us to pay on the day? Many Thanks Colin Entry form and chq are in the post
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Post by MID on Mar 21, 2011 23:46:42 GMT
Have updated list.
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Post by shaggy on Mar 22, 2011 18:22:29 GMT
Hi,
can you remove Sean Stratford please, unfortunately can't make it
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Post by MID on Mar 22, 2011 19:00:48 GMT
Thanks for letting us know, can you please confirm that Lewis Stratford is still going to play if so that his payment is on the way.
Also if someone can confirm that Gareth Lloyds cheque is on the way.
Thanks Mary
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Post by NigelS on Mar 22, 2011 19:18:48 GMT
Thanks for letting us know, can you please confirm that Lewis Stratford is still going to play if so that his payment is on the way. Also if someone can confirm that Gareth Lloyds cheque is on the way. Thanks Mary Gareth's cheque is in the post Mary Nigel
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Post by MID on Mar 22, 2011 20:41:41 GMT
Cheers Nigel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2011 4:21:10 GMT
Hi
i didnt put my name down so i probably wont be going.
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Post by colinm on Apr 11, 2011 12:37:51 GMT
I would just like to share my thoughts and those of others I spoke to on yesterday's open at Portsmouth. Rather than just not attend next year I would like to voice my dissappointment at the open yesterday in the hope that some improvements can be made in advance of the open next year, I would therefore hope that my following comments are taken with a view to improving matters rather than just as negative comments.
I am relatively new to the opens and only started attending them last year, I have now been to most of them with the exceptions being Jersey, Bucks and Kent. However given the ones which I have attended I would have to say that I found yesterdays open a dissappointment both in terms of location (the moneyfields is by far the worst that I have been to in terms of cleanliness and appeal - the food was quite good but the toilets were truly appalling) and also the quality of the tables with almost all of them suffering from a left hand roll, very thick breaks and very difficult if not near on impossible one-up's on some tables.
I know that it was not just myself that felt like this but several others, watching Sir KT trying to get the one up on table 4 was truly terrifying, if he couldn't get it what hope did I have! I was just glad that I did not have to play on that one! I understand the tables were quite good on the Saturday but I am sure most will agree that the quality of the set up of the tables yesterday left a lot to be desired, watching top players going out to scores over 2 games of less than 10,000 is not my idea of a good sunday.
As it stands I will not attend this open next year as it is an hours trip, £10 entrance fee around £20 in petrol the loss of a whole day to play on tables that are not playing true. We all accept the need for some difficult tables but I did not see any tables with particulary good scores and the quantity of high breaks yesterday must surely bear testament to my comments.
It may not sound like it but I do appreciate all of the hard work and organisation that goes into an event such as this and it is not fair reflection on those putting all of the effort in if the tables play like they did yesterday.
I could have said nothing about yesterday and simply not gone next year, however if people do not or are not allowed to express their opinions then no one realises there is a problem and nothing improves.
Colin
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Post by milhouse on Apr 11, 2011 12:43:31 GMT
There were a lot of people who felt the same as you Colin. I think that at the time of the semi-finals, there were only 2 10k break scored in the whole tournament :o
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 11, 2011 16:24:18 GMT
I have to agree with the points made above, which were certainly voiced by many people there on the day.
Personally, I felt that most of the tables I played / watched seemed to be more set up as "very uphill" rather than just rolling left........ with some of them being so bad that it was hard to believe that these were actually same tables that we all enjoyed playing so much a few weeks ago at Oxford and Bournemouth. ::) :'(
In comparison, the venue did seem to have gone considerably "downhill" in the last year, particularly the gents toilet was frankly disgusting at 10am when we arrived...... :o .....and I would rather not say what it was like later in the day. :-X
I would say however that the service at the bar was very good, the buffet food reasonable (although I know that some people complained about the Roast Dinner) and the staff very friendly and helpful. 8-)
The only other "moan" that I would raise would be why players who were drawn to play in the 2nd Round matches had to play their games before those who were drawn in the 1st Round....... I had a 4 hour gap between my 2nd Round game played at 10.45am and my next match, other players didn't start playing their 1st Round game until 12.15pm..... surely it must make more sense to play the 1st Round matches before the 2nd Round. ??? ::)
Apart from that, my thanks go to the organisers for their hard work on the day to make sure the event ran on time..... and I suppose that we did at least get some exciting close games on the day thanks to the tables. :-/ ;)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 17:05:47 GMT
I don't think the tables would have deliberately been set up to be 'awkward' - that's not what Hants are about. Table conditions will vary with the weather conditions: It was warm yesterday and the tables near the double doors 'changed' noticeably after the doors were opened. (Tony Webster remarked on this very point, having just clocked up a 12k break against me on table four, strangely the break was coming inside for the next pair on after us).
Ok, the toilets were grotty, but at least the soap dispensers and hand-driers worked.
I enjoyed my Sunday Roast for a fiver which I would say was excellent value. And apple pie and ice-cream for a quid ? There's not many places you can get that.
The admin side was handled efficiently, the time schedule was maintained and a lot goes into organising an event such as this.
Sometimes I think you guys expect too much. :-/
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Post by BFG on Apr 11, 2011 20:51:05 GMT
not that old chestnut! ::)
After the work i have put into preparing tables for the WSBBL weekends it truly is a lottery!
I have set tables so well in the morning they are scary 8-)....2 hours later they are terrifying ::)!
We all read posts about how tables get moved for events...the table then gets put back in it's "dents" and still plays like a dog!...
Unless we can manage to start putting tables into venues a week before and chip at them for the week before they will always be dodgy.....the hope is that you remember where you put the tables when they did set up ok....still no gaurantee there!
Just remember that as far as I am aware no one gets paid for the work they do to set up an open and on average if you get there at 10am its likely that one or two people will be their trying their best not a dozen or so:(
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 21:45:40 GMT
Who actually won the open then?
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Post by NigelS on Apr 11, 2011 22:44:26 GMT
I have to say I do agree with Colin's sentiments above. I am sure the tables were not set up deliberately difficult, but they were certainly the worst set of tables I have seen in 14 years of playing opens. I am sorry but a tournament with a quality field of 70+ players yielding only 2 breaks of over 10k means that questions have to be asked. The tables were very uphill on Sunday, I have always maintained that starting them a little downhill when setting up usually tends to make them more playable as they settle, but when tables start off uphill they will only get harder.
I am not a great believer in the saying "it's fair because it is the same table for both players" - we should want all the tables to be as good as possible and the standard to be high, and the best player will win whoever he or she may be. Matches turning into a bit of a lottery because the break and one up are damn near impossible is not what the game is about IMO.
It is a shame as I know Brian, Mary and Tony (and others) put a lot of work into getting this open up and running again. I hope they take the criticism from people above as constructive and maybe look into what they can do next year to make for a better open. I would however urge players not to boycott opens because of experiences like this or they will fold, and make the effort to go to Pompey next year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 23:28:41 GMT
Nigel has focused mainly on the problem with the tables, and I see the points about 'tables being set uphill in the first place will only become more uphill', and the comparisons between fourteen 10k+ breaks last year and only two this year as being fair comment.
To hint that the tables were not 'easy enough' to give the top players fair passage through, though, I find difficult to digest, and a slight on those players who 'dug deeper' to make it through to the advanced stages.
But the tables are not the only form of criticism being levelled here, everything has been blamed from the food and the toilets to the actual venue itself. If I were part of the organising committee, I would be very unhappy about this indeed and would find very little that was 'constructive' in the nature of the criticism. The way things are going, you won't have a Pompey Open next year to consider boycotting. :-/
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Post by SirKT on Apr 12, 2011 12:33:58 GMT
Congratulations To Leon Beer on winning this event (his 2nd Open win). He beat Curt Driver in the Final.
I too was disappointed with the tables on Sunday, table 4 especially, it was so far uphill :-/ Myself and Hayley both played on saturday as well and although there were a couple of tricky ones on that day too (didn`t play 4,5 & 6), they were a lot better. So, why did they change so much? Possibly because there were more people in the room, i`m not sure. Tony & Brian put a lot of work into this weekend and will also be baffled as to the difficulty of the tables. I think we should all accept this competition as a one off because I don`t think they will be that tricky again :P As for the venue, I would have to agree that it was looking a bit tired and the toilets were a disgrace. I used the one in the other bar as much as I could, it wasn`t a great deal better though.
Oh and one other thing...........perhaps children could be kept away from players when they are chasing a score >:( ;)
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Post by Pete S on Apr 12, 2011 12:58:14 GMT
What would be far more helpful to open organizers would be timely entry and prompt payment. It costs over £1000 to hold an open. Surrey Open less than one month away and less than 60 entries Kent Open - forms available since early Feb - 4 entries Perhaps Jean would like to let us know how many entrants they have for Sussex, I bet it is not many. I don't think that is very satisfactory
I would agree with KT about children, there were a few running around unsupervised on Sunday which should not be tolerated.
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Post by JB on Apr 12, 2011 14:28:55 GMT
25 entries so far for Sussex Open. I will start a list on here soon
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