To hint that the tables were not 'easy enough' to give the top players fair passage through, though, I find difficult to digest, and a slight on those players who 'dug deeper' to make it through to the advanced stages.
Tommo, my comments above are in no way meant to detract from the achievements of the winner or those who reached the latter stages.
I am not saying tables should be 'easy' to enable the top players easy passage - that's not my point. For a tournament tables should be as good as they can be, and for whatever reason, the tables at the weekend were not up to standard - lets not forget these are the tables that saw two 20k+ breaks and several other run outs one month ago in Bournemouth.
Even if the tables were all set up well, the challenge would still be there, the game is still difficult enough that players make mistakes, and you would still get upsets which we all like to see now and again. But just as importantly you get good quality billiards and matches like Bamsey's fightback against Sheard in Bournemouth which could never have happened at Pompey.
As KT says lets hope this was a one off and the guys can learn from this for next year, they still did a great job in running the event.
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I am not a great believer in the saying "it's fair because it is the same table for both players" - we should want all the tables to be as good as possible and the standard to be high, and the best player will win whoever he or she may be.
There are probably a couple of dozen players around who are capable of winning Opens, and shocks are bound to occur from time to time. Some players are upwardly mobile and other players hitherto considered better can suffer a dip in form. You have to accept the rough with the smooth in this game, as I'm sure you know already ;) but blaming the tables which ARE the same for both players is not very magnanimous. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but that's the way it came across.
I too hope that this was a 'blip' or one-off, but it has been coming for some time, and Hants are the unfortunate ones to bear the brunt: I was not too impressed with the setting up of the tables at Bucks last year, although I love the venue.
My congratulations to Leon on his win and to Curt in reaching the final, I find it a shame that their acheivements are somewhat undermined by the very valid points about table standards.
As most of us know the organisors well, appreciate they put a lot of hard work into organising and running the event. As Tommo says they seem to have taken the brunt of what has been brewing for a while about how different the same set of tables can be from one event to another. We have to remember there are many factors that effect the tables and as previously mentioned one of the main ones is that tables are only given a minimum time to settle.
I do hope that the comments will not put those who give their time voluntarily to organise this and other opens off. Times are still hard out in the real world and people are still feeling the pinch, this along with negativity could lead to seeing a drop in entries, as mentioned it costs a lot of money to set up the opens and for those doing it, it is a labour of love for very little thanks.
A great deal of time and effort goes into a tournament. Before Brian and Mary doing the event with Tony supporting, I used to do it myself with Chris N supporting and it was a great deal of work !
Sadly we could not be there ( as you know) but I really am saddened that consideration is not truly given to those that give their time to org anise such events.
You all know I am a push shot player couldn't do split to save my life ... I never complain that tables are not set to this ??? Why shouldn't I.. ? I know Brian, Mary and Tony will have worked hard for this event and will always set up as fairly as they can.Yes I wasn't there and did not play but I do know how hard these people work and saddened that it appears to not be recognised.
We have had many event in Reading at the Post Office where the tables have been difficult but as Phil Hawkins has always said get here early and help set them and don't crticise.
What a fair statement.. just I am personally not going to.. so I thank the organisers and those that set tables, organise and run these major events.
Yes I winge too but accept that they are fair for all.
and hey I am now down to waitress as Chris can't walk so let's get back to reality, what really matters in life???
Firstly, I would like to congratulate Leon on his 2nd Open win and to Curt for making the Final.
It has been 10 days now since the Portsmouth Open and we still haven’t had a proper report from anyone about who won what. The only thing that we know about is who was the Winner & R/Up in the Main tournament, so as yet we don’t know who were the finalists in the Plate?, who won the Highest Breaks?, although I know there wasn’t anything for the Ladies highest break :o, who reached the Q/Finals and not one report of any of the matches played on the day, not even the Final.
All we have been told about is how bad the tables played, how disgusting the toilets were and that some children got in the way of the players. ???
Regarding the tables, we all know that they can change during the course of the day for lots of reasons that is why some organisers put something in the programme under “Rules & Regulations” i.e. Sussex “The Committee reserves the right to brush or adjust the tables at any time”, Portsmouth “Tables may be brushed or altered at any time by the tournament referee’s. But the only time I have ever seen this rule used and the table adjusted due to it playing poorly was in the Sussex.
It was a shame to miss the chance to try to retain my title from last year due to a stomach bug (still got it) and this must be the first time that I’ve missed this Open.
I must say that I’m very disappointed to hear that one of my favourite tournaments has been scarred in this way and also hope that Brian/Mary & Tony will take on board the negatives with the positives and keep doing a great job in keeping this Open going, even if it means looking for another venue to hold it.
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