dominik kuliwotsits
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Post by dominik kuliwotsits on Aug 11, 2008 0:39:30 GMT
ello billiards crew, dunno who will get this message, but, anyone know if there is a league in or around birmingham? if you could get back to us at some point it would be much appreciated, hope all is well,
Dominik
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Post by fazza on Aug 11, 2008 5:31:16 GMT
Never heard of one if there is! Have you moved there then?
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Post by Chris_Sav on Aug 11, 2008 7:02:44 GMT
Hi and welcome to our forum.
The game is mostly played in the South East and thus that's where the leagues are.
The nearest to you is Northampton.
Sav.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2008 10:21:17 GMT
Just to add that there was one West Midlands table on the list of tables leased by the table operator Bar-Billiards Ltd:
West Midlands ANGEL, LOAD STREET, BEWDLEY WORCS DY12 2AW
But what its fate will be, we do not know.
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dominik kuliwotsits
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Post by dominik kuliwotsits on Aug 11, 2008 19:48:44 GMT
ok not too worry , looks like i shall have to venture down to wallingford during the summer to get some much needed practise in!! in reply to pete, yeah ive sort of moved up here though not sure if its for the long term or short term and seeing as i dont drive its quite difficult getting back to wallingford as you can probably imagine, Many thanks, Dom
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Post by Q on Jan 13, 2009 14:21:59 GMT
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Post by edi on Jun 11, 2009 16:33:01 GMT
Hi all,
I came across bar billiards because it's implemented in World Championship Snooker for the Wii (w.o. a computer opponent and w.o. time measure, you've won when you've reached 2000 points). I have also picked up the little program by Martin Leech (thanks!), and I have a few questions now.
Somewhere I have read people comparing the depth of play to snooker or pool. I cannot yet understand it. Are there possibilities of snookering somebody or playing safeties? Since the balls are much smaller than in snooker or pool (let alone carambole) it would be much more difficult (at least) to use top-spin or screw a ball, even more so as it would increase the danger of ending up in the chap. On the videos I have found only natural angles seem to be used. So what are the strategies (I'm sure there must be some)? I have searched the net but haven't found anything. What would be standard exercises (apart from the "Oxford break")? There are lots of tutorials for snooker or pool, but there's nothing on bar billiards, unfortunately.
And of course, I'd like to give it a try, but there's no table where I live (Germany). End of next week I'll go to GB, it will mostly be North Wales, but I'll be around Birmingham, too. Are there any tables around there (Wolverhampton would be cool)?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2009 13:18:22 GMT
Hi Edi,
Firstly your question about Bar Billiards in and around Birmingham: we have had enquiries in the past and this is all we were able to come up with was one in Bewdley, Worcs....
Regarding the comparisons of our game with snooker and pool, I can best answer this if I bring a fourth game, three-ball billiards, into the discussion. Both snooker and pool require potting ability, and - agreed - tactical knowhow. With Bar Billiards, as with three-ball billiards, you score not only by potting balls, but also by playing "losing hazards" - otherwise known as "in-offs".
Also with bar billiards cannons and shots off the cushion are frequently played. You have obstacles in the form of the 'pins' or 'pegs' and if you knock the black one over you lose the entire score - which of course you can't do in snooker.
As far as I am aware, the balls are similar in size to those in Pool, and yes, side and spin does come into it. Even on the first shot there are a myriad of choices - to hit the ball thick or thin, or with top or bottom, or left or right hand side, or combinations of these.
Tables can be fast or slow and can have either lively or 'dead' cushions - and another challenge is in 'adjusting to the pace of the table', as well as other factors like the nap of the cloth.
'Tactics' sometimes apply when trying to play safe (if you think you have enough score to win) as often staying on the table for too long can end up with leaving yourself a difficult shot - with painful consequences.
There is an awful lot to the game, and some of us who have been playing for forty years or more are still learning new tricks (or new ways to lose, even !) ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 13:41:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2011 12:15:41 GMT
These were found in Staffs during the course of our investigations for the AEBBA Map: I have deleted the Stafford Arms in Railway Street Stafford as it does not appear to be a pub anymore, an all-too-common event these days.... cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2011 12:33:47 GMT
.............another two in Staffs: ..and the game being played at the Bulls Head, Burslem:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 13:01:56 GMT
Bar Billiards (4-pin version) at The Case Is Altered in Hatton (Nr Kenilworth) Warwickshire: ....and seems it's still there, judging by this blog from local bellringers: warwick.ac.uk/sunion/wubrs/society/pub/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2011 18:42:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2011 15:40:28 GMT
4-pin being played at the Willow Tree (Farm), Shipston-on-Stour, Warwicks CV36 4JJ:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 14:18:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 9:15:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 22:27:34 GMT
A Supreme table is being got rid of by a pub in Rugby (probably the Alexandra Arms), soon to be replaced by table skittles. See Tables Buying and Selling thread under Club Class Lounge for details.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 11:51:07 GMT
Bar Billiards available here: WEAVERS ARMS, 12 LONG STREET, RYTON, BULKINGTON, BEDWORTH, WARWICKSHIRE CV12 9JZ whatpub.com/pubs/COV/1901/weavers-arms-bulkingtonMind you, its stay might be limited as I think the table is the one from Bulkington currently up for sale on eBay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 20:40:36 GMT
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Post by littlemark on Nov 19, 2014 21:23:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 23:16:37 GMT
GOLDEN CROSS, HIGH STREET, CLEE HILL, SHROPSHIRE SY8 3LZ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 23:52:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 17:11:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 21:33:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 23:09:52 GMT
LittleMark's most recent blog draws our attention to a Supreme table in the Rose Inn, Nuneaton: pub-games.blogspot.co.uk/ROSE INN, COTON ROAD, NUNEATON, WARWICKSHIRE CV11 5TW
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 23:43:50 GMT
Sadly, table up for sale on eBay at present.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 23:02:02 GMT
Stumbled upon this obituary from 1937, provides evidence that there were tables in the Midlands in days of yore ... Quote: Also confirms that bar billiards can be bad for your health.
Photo of the pub from around that time: ...and yes, it's still there now: ...though I doubt the table is !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 15:48:58 GMT
"Scaffolding now surrounds The New Inn, at Five Lanes End, Needwood, as work gets under way to turn the empty building into four homes. The pub, thought to date back to 1860, has been vacant for some time and up for sale for more than three years. It was a pub with bed and breakfast accommodation capabilities, with on-site accommodation for the manager on the first floor, while the second floor was used for storage.
It had been a popular haunt for motorcyclists." - Derby Telegraph, 30 Mar 2019
(Already deleted from AEBBA map)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 18:50:50 GMT
Last one from a series of comprehensive checks:
Woodville House, 37 Bilton Rd, Rugby, Warwicks CV22 7AN
Nice table, believe this has recently been converted to a care home (= the future of bar billiards ?)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:01:43 GMT
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