Fixtures 29th Oct

[peetee]

Vikings v Masons B
Didcot CC v Berinsfield
Glad's A v HCC
Democrats v Marlborough
Masons A v Oracle..........Match cancelled......1 point deducted
Mr Lowe cancelled because Oracle played there two weeks ago.
Glad's B have the bye

[delboy]

You cannot deduct us a point it was not our fault fixture sheet was wrong , we helped out week before by swapping our fixture as both Masons teams were at home . You cannot play on same table within 14 days. . If you deduct point I will consider finishing playing in Oxford League how many more players do you want to drive out?

[delboy]

There is a way of avoiding this swap fixture week for 29/10/15 for fixtures on 4/2/16 this would have to involve all teams but it would then put Oracle on free week this week to give them time to sort out their table

[milhouse]

Oct 27, 2015 10:21:47 GMT delboy said:

You cannot deduct us a point it was not our fault fixture sheet was wrong , we helped out week before by swapping our fixture as both Masons teams were at home . You cannot play on same table within 14 days. . If you deduct point I will consider finishing playing in Oxford League how many more players do you want to drive out?

Sorry Alan, but it is actions like this that is driving people away from the game. This would not be a problem with ANY other team in the league.

When we did play there the other week, we all struggled on the table anyway! If we would have scored highly, i could have half understood your argument.

Like i said to you on text earlier, when we all play on the tables multiple times a year, does playing on a table 2 weeks or 3 weeks apart make any difference? Of course not.

[milhouse]

Oct 27, 2015 10:28:45 GMT delboy said:

There is a way of avoiding this swap fixture week for 29/10/15 for fixtures on 4/2/16 this would have to involve all teams but it would then put Oracle on free week this week to give them time to sort out their table

This is just ridiculous. Not only do you want this one little thing to inconvenience the whole league by swapping fixtures around, all of the comps which are scheduled for the coming weeks will also have to be changed due to people playing on different tables.

[delboy]

We have gone out of our way this seasons to help out for example our matches against Didcot Con Club because of an error in giving K.O.C played by date when it wasn't needed. Also swapping our match on 15th of this month down to another error on fixture list . Richard fang me when I was away on holiday to help out with error & had I had fixture list I would have checked this out first before agreeing on this . I am all for fair play & that is what I was hoping from you &l league but it looks to me that some people are desperate for the bit of plastic at end of season than others. So I would say if it was any other team than you we would not be having this problem. HAVE THE 5 POINTS IF YOU WANT LEAGUE THAT BADLY

[milhouse]

Oct 27, 2015 11:14:14 GMT delboy said:

We have gone out of our way this seasons to help out for example our matches against Didcot Con Club because of an error in giving K.O.C played by date when it wasn't needed. Also swapping our match on 15th of this month down to another error on fixture list . Richard fang me when I was away on holiday to help out with error & had I had fixture list I would have checked this out first before agreeing on this . I am all for fair play & that is what I was hoping from you &l league but it looks to me that some people are desperate for the bit of plastic at end of season than others. So I would say if it was any other team than you we would not be having this problem. HAVE THE 5 POINTS IF YOU WANT LEAGUE THAT BADLY

How can you say this comment when it is you that is cancelling the game and you who is moaning about having a point deducted? It has nothing to do with our team!

It is up to the league if they want to implement the changes to the entire round of fixtures this week but as both Pete and Richard are away, I very much doubt this could happen.

[alan]

Oct 27, 2015 11:24:49 GMT milhouse said:

Oct 27, 2015 11:14:14 GMT delboy said:

We have gone out of our way this seasons to help out for example our matches against Didcot Con Club because of an error in giving K.O.C played by date when it wasn't needed. Also swapping our match on 15th of this month down to another error on fixture list . Richard fang me when I was away on holiday to help out with error & had I had fixture list I would have checked this out first before agreeing on this . I am all for fair play & that is what I was hoping from you &l league but it looks to me that some people are desperate for the bit of plastic at end of season than others. So I would say if it was any other team than you we would not be having this problem. HAVE THE 5 POINTS IF YOU WANT LEAGUE THAT BADLY

How can you say this comment when it is you that is cancelling the game and you who is moaning about having a point deducted? It has nothing to do with our team!

It is up to the league if they want to implement the changes to the entire round of fixtures this week but as both Pete and Richard are away, I very much doubt this could happen.

The fixtures this week will not be changed....end of!

Alan....I don't understand why you are making such a big deal out of this. As far as I am aware there is no written rule that you can't play on the same table within 14 days. You are a committee member and as such should be understanding to the issue Mark's team are having and I believe should make an exception and play the game this week. I don't know of any other team that would cause such a stir about something very trivial. Does it really matter that they played your B team on your table 2 weeks ago?

[delboy]

I stand by what I say as I don't sit on the fence like others . Fact is I didn't cancel match I merely asked if we could find a solution to this . As for it is to late to do this I find this trash all Pete has to do is contact Captains . I have text Pete with suggestion . It' leaves a nasty taste when all we have asked is for fair play so don't turn it our way as being the aggressive team .

[alan]

Oct 27, 2015 11:43:26 GMT delboy said:

I stand by what I say as I don't sit on the fence like others . Fact is I didn't cancel match I merely asked if we could find a solution to this . As for it is to late to do this I find this trash all Pete has to do is contact Captains . I have text Pete with suggestion . It' leaves a nasty taste when all we have asked is for fair play so don't turn it our way as being the aggressive team .

No mention of aggression Alan.....just a bit of understanding and common sense....it's only a game!

[delboy]

Well you answered my question then a bit of understanding &common sense from the Secretary & Officers help us out like we did on 15/10/2015 when we swapped to Democrats it works both ways

[alan]

Oct 27, 2015 12:33:17 GMT delboy said:

Well you answered my question then a bit of understanding &common sense from the Secretary & Officers help us out like we did on 15/10/2015 when we swapped to Democrats it works both ways

That wasn't a swap Alan and you know it. It was a fixture list error by Richard. I'm not saying anything else on the matter.

[lewisstrat26]

This is why I don't play anymore. Joke of a league

[delboy]

Oct 27, 2015 12:44:29 GMT alan said:

Oct 27, 2015 12:33:17 GMT delboy said:

Well you answered my question then a bit of understanding &common sense from the Secretary & Officers help us out like we did on 15/10/2015 when we swapped to Democrats it works both ways

That wasn't a swap Alan and you know it. It was a fixture list error by Richard. I'm not saying anything else on the matter.

Was a fact Alan , Richard rang to ask if we would swap you have only choose to end the matter because you know I'm right

[shaggy]

When a league has only 8 venues at some point during the season players will have to play the same venue time after time . Just play the game . This is the thing about bar billiards , little unwritten rules that are used to suit some people . if you played on the same table 4 weeks running , who cares !!! . just a certain few obviously .

[alan]

Oct 27, 2015 13:30:07 GMT delboy said:

Oct 27, 2015 12:44:29 GMT alan said:

That wasn't a swap Alan and you know it. It was a fixture list error by Richard. I'm not saying anything else on the matter.

Was a fact Alan , Richard rang to ask if we would swap you have only choose to end the matter because you know I'm right

Your not right Alan because I pointed out to Richard that the Masons A and B teams were at home on the 15th Oct. and the B team game couldn't be changed as it was against Kennington (Oracle) and they didn't have a venue. It was undoubtedly a fixture list error and it was just unfortunate that the list had been issued before it was noticed. These are the facts and they are 100% accurate. This is my final comment.

[shaggy]

Don't make out your always right either , you let teams enter the league past the closing date , which you admitted on this forum , and when I asked to sign on for a team and play competitions you told me it was to late , but those entries that were late were fine . double standards . They shouldn't have been in the competitions either if you go by your rules !!

[delboy]

Oct 27, 2015 14:30:46 GMT alan said:

Oct 27, 2015 13:30:07 GMT delboy said:

Was a fact Alan , Richard rang to ask if we would swap you have only choose to end the matter because you know I'm right

Your not right Alan because I pointed out to Richard that the Masons A and B teams were at home on the 15th Oct. and the B team game couldn't be changed as it was against Kennington (Oracle) and they didn't have a venue. It was undoubtedly a fixture list error and it was just unfortunate that the list had been issued before it was noticed. These are the facts and they are 100% accurate. This is my final comment.

How wrong you are Alan I had conversation with Richard I know what was said what sticks in my throat is there is a way of avoiding this but it seems your hell bent on killing league. Congratulations I'm done with league once again the big boys win hand over title to Oracle everything gone their way how many home will they get at end of season ?

[lewisstrat26]

One word: Embarresment

[craig mace]

Oct 27, 2015 17:24:45 GMT delboy said:

Oct 27, 2015 14:30:46 GMT alan said:

Your not right Alan because I pointed out to Richard that the Masons A and B teams were at home on the 15th Oct. and the B team game couldn't be changed as it was against Kennington (Oracle) and they didn't have a venue. It was undoubtedly a fixture list error and it was just unfortunate that the list had been issued before it was noticed. These are the facts and they are 100% accurate. This is my final comment.

How wrong you are Alan I had conversation with Richard I know what was said what sticks in my throat is there is a way of avoiding this but it seems your hell bent on killing league. Congratulations I'm done with league once again the big boys win hand over title to Oracle everything gone their way how many home will they get at end of season ?

In all fairness there is t enough tables to be petty if mark had played at Berinsfield in a cup match the week before they played us in the league I wouldn't care and I'm sure most other teams wouldn't care why don't you just get on with it instead of finding excuses to screw over the oracle club I know u lot don't like them but no need to be nasty about it just play the match and be done with it

[delboy]

Oct 27, 2015 18:38:53 GMT craig mace said:

Oct 27, 2015 17:24:45 GMT delboy said:

How wrong you are Alan I had conversation with Richard I know what was said what sticks in my throat is there is a way of avoiding this but it seems your hell bent on killing league. Congratulations I'm done with league once again the big boys win hand over title to Oracle everything gone their way how many home will they get at end of season ?

In all fairness there is t enough tables to be petty if mark had played at Berinsfield in a cup match the week before they played us in the league I wouldn't care and I'm sure most other teams wouldn't care why don't you just get on with it instead of finding excuses to screw over the oracle club I know u lot don't like them but no need to be nasty about it just play the match and be done with it

Once again someone sticking their nose in we don't have a problem with Oracle Club what our problems is their is a solution to the cock up in fixture sheet but certain officers are being stubborn . We as a team this season have bent over backwards to get our cup matches played for play by dates but once again we have been S--T on

[milhouse]

Oct 27, 2015 22:49:05 GMT delboy said:

Oct 27, 2015 18:38:53 GMT craig mace said:

In all fairness there is t enough tables to be petty if mark had played at Berinsfield in a cup match the week before they played us in the league I wouldn't care and I'm sure most other teams wouldn't care why don't you just get on with it instead of finding excuses to screw over the oracle club I know u lot don't like them but no need to be nasty about it just play the match and be done with it

Once again someone sticking their nose in we don't have a problem with Oracle Club what our problems is their is a solution to the cock up in fixture sheet but certain officers are being stubborn . We as a team this season have bent over backwards to get our cup matches played for play by dates but once again we have been S--T on

Alan, if this was an issue, why wasn't it brought up weeks ago when the fixtures got changed? When you say there is a solution, there is not. As you know, the secretary is away on holiday, so to change the entire fixtures for this week at this late stage is unrealistic.

If you think we are trying to gain an advantage, i am sure that all our team will agree with me and say you can have the game, i am not bothered as it is a game at the end of the day and i have better things to do with my time than to argue about petty things like this and the unwritten rules you are trying to hide behind. Like many people before, it is situations like this that is so trivial, but you make it out to be a big issue which is killing the game.

Like i said in a previous comment, all of our team (apart from me) could not even get the break on your table, so how you think we have an advantage is laughable!

[milhouse]

Oct 27, 2015 18:38:53 GMT craig mace said:

Oct 27, 2015 17:24:45 GMT delboy said:

How wrong you are Alan I had conversation with Richard I know what was said what sticks in my throat is there is a way of avoiding this but it seems your hell bent on killing league. Congratulations I'm done with league once again the big boys win hand over title to Oracle everything gone their way how many home will they get at end of season ?

In all fairness there is t enough tables to be petty if mark had played at Berinsfield in a cup match the week before they played us in the league I wouldn't care and I'm sure most other teams wouldn't care why don't you just get on with it instead of finding excuses to screw over the oracle club I know u lot don't like them but no need to be nasty about it just play the match and be done with it

Thanks for the support Craig, it's nice to know someone has some common sense!

While we are at it, maybe i should complain about next week having league games being scheduled because it is the World Championships weekend when there should be competitions organised as certain teams will be weaker because their players are trying to play to a higher level!

[delboy]

Now who is trying to write unwritten rules why should majority of players be put out when only a few are going to Jersey by saying it should be Comps week . You choose to go.

[milhouse]

Oct 28, 2015 8:29:33 GMT delboy said:

Now who is trying to write unwritten rules why should majority of players be put out when only a few are going to Jersey by saying it should be Comps week . You choose to go.

Why would it be putting the majority of the players out if there were comps on this particular weeks? They are still playing games???

Plus, this is not what you were saying last year when you went to Jersey......

[delboy]

Your correct Mark I enjoyed Jersey matches played in good spirits & friendly atmosphere all I'm saying is the week before should not be set in stone for Comps . While we're on subject of Comps & you seem to have all the answers why did Comps Secretary switch pairs round last week ? . Answer is players had played on some tables recently & he did not want it to be unfair advantage . Another fact you have played our newly set up table more than us this season we have not played it league yet.. Going back to my early post in which Pete said I cancelled match & would lose point never did I tell or used the words we would cancel, once again this the Secretary making decisions off his own & not speaking to Committee.

[milhouse]

Oct 28, 2015 10:09:46 GMT delboy said:

Your correct Mark I enjoyed Jersey matches played in good spirits & friendly atmosphere all I'm saying is the week before should not be set in stone for Comps . While we're on subject of Comps & you seem to have all the answers why did Comps Secretary switch pairs round last week ? . Answer is players had played on some tables recently & he did not want it to be unfair advantage . Another fact you have played our newly set up table more than us this season we have not played it league yet.. Going back to my early post in which Pete said I cancelled match & would lose point never did I tell or used the words we would cancel, once again this the Secretary making decisions off his own & not speaking to Committee.

So if you have not cancelled the match, why did you not say that at the start of this discussion and why have you said it is unfair you are being deducted a point!

Are you saying the game is on tomorrow?

[mossy]

HCC are playing away on thursday.why dont oracle make it their home table for the night as they used it to finish of the witney league. just a suggestion i am also presuming you cant you cant reverse this fixture to the oracle.
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[delboy]

Oct 28, 2015 10:35:43 GMT milhouse said:

Oct 28, 2015 10:09:46 GMT delboy said:

Your correct Mark I enjoyed Jersey matches played in good spirits & friendly atmosphere all I'm saying is the week before should not be set in stone for Comps . While we're on subject of Comps & you seem to have all the answers why did Comps Secretary switch pairs round last week ? . Answer is players had played on some tables recently & he did not want it to be unfair advantage . Another fact you have played our newly set up table more than us this season we have not played it league yet.. Going back to my early post in which Pete said I cancelled match & would lose point never did I tell or used the words we would cancel, once again this the Secretary making decisions off his own & not speaking to Committee.

So if you have not cancelled the match, why did you not say that at the start of this discussion and why have you said it is unfair you are being deducted a point!

Are you saying the game is on tomorrow?

I only started discussion after Pete Ewins posted match was cancelled & we would be deducted 1 point . We didn't cancel I asked if fixture could be swapped around or another date be found? Then you came in & it went from there. It still sticks in my throat that a perfectly asked request could not be solved despite facts comp matches were moved to allow fair play because players had played on tables just recently . One rule for one , one rule for others.

[milhouse]

Oct 28, 2015 21:08:28 GMT delboy said:

Oct 28, 2015 10:35:43 GMT milhouse said:

So if you have not cancelled the match, why did you not say that at the start of this discussion and why have you said it is unfair you are being deducted a point!

Are you saying the game is on tomorrow?

I only started discussion after Pete Ewins posted match was cancelled & we would be deducted 1 point . We didn't cancel I asked if fixture could be swapped around or another date be found? Then you came in & it went from there. It still sticks in my throat that a perfectly asked request could not be solved despite facts comp matches were moved to allow fair play because players had played on tables just recently . One rule for one , one rule for others.

The point is, if you would have said from the start that you had not actually cancelled the game, then most of this discussion would not have happened! You just went straight into complaining about being deducted a point!

As you have not answered my previous question and as you say you have not cancelled the match, i presume it is still on, so will see you tomorrow evening.