Eric Hill (AEBBA President) phoned me today. The AEBBA exec will discuss the draft rules tomorrow at the Bucks Open. It is looking increasingly unlikely that an EGM will be called prior to this year's round of AEBBA tournaments, as the fifth county request has not materialised. They hope to ratify the rules with regard to the previous AGM changes that do not need voting on. They will come back to me with proposals on constitutional areas, such as the non existant AEBBA committee, to be incorporated for debate at the AGM. Chris.
Going back to this one, I believe, Sav, you said that there was no feedback from Eric Hill ?
The Berks Open - being this Sunday - provides the last opportunity for a ratification of the existing rules prior to the five weekends of National Championships (thus discounting the need for an EGM).
It may be advisable also to establish a "point of principle" on the promotions and relegations following this years County Championships: Oxfordshire B are more likely to go up than down, and the general consensus when we were discussing this on the Forum a year ago was that it would be tragic to lose a front-line county into Division Three.
Better to air the problem beforehand rather than have a raging argument after it has happened !
I have heard nothing from Eric Hill since the Bucks Open.
I have my biggest website yet going live in two weeks, thus I will not have time to spare on any last minute panic.
As you say; You can lead a horse to water etc. I've done what AEBBA asked of me with KBBA's and this forum's help. Now apathy rules once again until the next competition bust-up. Poor old Nigel's headache for one more round of comps.
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I find it sad and disappointing that all your hard work, Sav, has not raised any real interest from the right quarters and hope that the cart is put back on the right track before the wheels fall off completely.
It is to be hoped that nobody starts moaning about things when they haven't made the effort to push for the consolidation/update to the rules or support the changes that need to be made for future of our game.
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Some counties are keener than others, play all the year round and tend to have a big say in most matters.
Others are very insular, carry on their own sweet way, and wheel their great players out of mothballs once a year to play inter-county and don't seem to mind too much about what goes on.
I must say that I'm not too impressed about the ostrich-like burying the head in the sand approach about the Rules and the effect there will be - as you say the wheels coming off the wagon - if nothing is done soon. >:(
AEBBA had not managed to get the rules back to me in the nine months they had been in possession of them since Bournemouth 2007. Some fifty copies were available at Bournemouth and they have been on the AEBBA site ever since. This apparently was not a good enough basis for them to be considered on or before the last AGM.
There will be an EGM to consider the AEBBA rules at Bournemouth on Friday 7th March.
Rules version 3.00 have been debated by the AEBBA executive. A hand written set of changes has been given to me which I will do my best to impartially transcribe into version 4.00 as soon as possible.
AEBBA have, without consultation, changed / omitted a couple of the rules heavily debated on this forum. This is outwith my input or control and I consider it a backward step that will only result in unnecessary proposals for the EGM.
Version 4.00 will be the rules submitted to the EGM by AEBBA. They will be a plain set of rules, there will be no comparisons within to highlight changes from version 3.00.
You will need to go through the rules and compare them with 3.00 the last forum debated version.
If you do not agree with any of the AEBBA changes, or wish to add new ones, feel free to debate them in threads under this section. If there appears to be general agreement to any alterations they will need to be proposed and seconded and submitted to AEBBASec for inclusion. I would appreciate a copy of any proposals so I can try and keep track of what is nearly six years' work!!
1. Version 3 have more or less been sanctioned by the AEBBA Exec, but will not be published in booklet form as we will - following an Extraordinary General Meeting - have a fully updated Version 4 including recent amendments.
2. Further discussions at this stage are futile, as they could be used as an excuse to hold things up further.
Let's trust the 'powers that be' to get it right, and accept what comes out of the EGM at face value. If there's anything we don't like there's always the 2008 AGM where they can be suitably 'tweaked'.
Does this mean we are unlikely to see a booklet before Dec '08 ?
The counties were promised one by "Easter 2007" and the new TD will be at a disadvantage (as Nigel has been) without having anything hard and fast to refer to if they're not published by the time next September comes.
Surely any further discussions on the Forum will now be counter-productive and would cause further turmoil: We now have an action plan so let's see what comes out, and as you say do the comparing of Versions 3 & 4 afterwards.
Whatever is adopted at the EGM at Bournemouth will come into effect immediately and apply at Bournemouth! This will be the case unless AEBBA propose a further delay in acceptance. The floor would have to agree with that. There should be no need for this as the rules are now available almost three months prior to the EGM. That is plenty of time for AEBBA to circulate them. I will be hopefully be talking to Dave Alder and Eric Hill later today.
A new set of rules should thus be available on the AEBBA site very soon after Bournemouth. Whether AEBBA also produce a booklet is up to them.
We did actually have a bit of discussion on that one on the special thread for Rules, but it was pointed out that it's a bit of a radical change as it would apply not only to a deliberate foul shot, but also (as worded) affects what happens after an accidental miscue where the ball travels just an inch or so away from the 'D'.
IMHO it seems a welcome innovation, but there may be others who disagree, saying it's all part of the game to have to cope with the hindrance of a ball slap bang in front of the cueball. But then again, whether done unwittingly or not, the 'culprit' should not expect to gain anything at all from his indiscretion !
So it needs a small amount of debate, but I hope that its gets through.