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Post by BB Warrior on Mar 27, 2009 17:02:02 GMT
i wouldnt say greyhound should be top the table is tricky and the d needs to be replaced it is unbelievable how poor it is you put a ball on the d and when going to take a shot it rolls off That seems to be a problem with quite a few tables as the season comes towards the end..... certainly the Eight Bells has suffered due to the cloth being damaged next to the D and it is very hard to spot the ball in some positions...... and elsewhere, the balls seem to gravitate to one position in particular on the D of a few other tables I have played recently. ::) I did notice that the D at the Greyhound was fairly worn when we played our Doubles match there a few weeks ago, however by giving the cue ball a moment to settle before you play the shot, it didn't prove to be a problem then. ;) I have always enjoyed playing the table at the Greyhound and would agree with Tommo that it is one of the consistently highest scoring tables in the League..... but, it isn't set up for "split" players (as I'm sure Trevor would be the first to say) so you do need to be able to play a wider variety of shots than some players are used to. 8-) Speaking personally, I think that makes the game more interesting and certainly makes me feel far more satisfied if I have a good score there than on a table where you only need to know the break, one up and split shot...... ::)
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Post by iang on Mar 27, 2009 17:45:13 GMT
WHEN will I get the message across to some of you I CAN not post any results untill the next night & not during the day my office is a ford focus so lets not have any more comments of this nature. No problem as far as I'm concerned, Ian. Things don't have to be done immediately - or at all, even - and this thread is only supposed to be a bit of fun anyway. ::) And just when I thought we were all getting on so well with each other this week............... :-/ We still are
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2009 21:16:29 GMT
Well that's good. We have an excellent thing going on the Mid Sussex board, with lots of people contributing to threads and supplying write-ups and results. Everyone taking part seems keen and interested in what is going on. It has even been admitted in the past that some people try to beat others to the post with their writeups. But at the end of the day it does not matter one iota if results are not posted on here, as the only official capacity is the Results Secretary, and his weekly eMailed missive to everyone in the League is the essential means of communication.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2009 12:24:37 GMT
With Brewers, Hurst and the Fish tables all clamouring for upwards movement, no weekly update is possible until the scores from the Greyhound match filter through.
This is not an attempt to 'chase' anyone - it is the mere statement of a fact. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 19:43:44 GMT
Week 24, and now that the dust has settled the top four all stay put with commendations, and there is just one change to record - Handcross has swapped rungs with Eight Bells. Super G made 7760 in a single break and Paul Jobbins 5790 at the Club, whilst dazza and tommo shared 8k almost equally. The Applebys returned fresh from S.Africa but otherwise the Warrior-less Bells saw eight scores of less than 2k recorded. Not much better at St Francis where only three scores exceeded 2k.
1 Greyhound 2 Brewers (Bravos/Droops) 3 Hurstpierpoint 4 Laughing Fish 5 United Services 6 Handcross 7 Eight Bells 8 Clayton&Keymer 9 Watermill 10 White Horse 11 Brewers (Royals) 12 Plough 13 St Francis
Noteworthy scores at the top four venues: Greyhound - P.Burchell 6580, G.Fairs 6290, D.Williamson 6150. Brewers - Ex-PonyTailedGuy 8410, Spud 6620 Hurst - Sparky 7000, Papa Hall 6820, BobHall 5400 Fish - H 7360, A.F/Wright 7320, Mama Hall 5630
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2009 14:17:50 GMT
Week 25 saw a mixed bag of table performances. Table of the week was undeniably the USC, where Sparky recorded 10200 for the homesters and Andy Brooks a personal best 7160 for the Laughing Fish, with which it swaps rungs. Tommo's 'Z' teammates won't thank him for putting the Brewers table back on top, but their failure to perform was due more to the torrid conditions of a rowdy pub with very little room rather than to anything wrong with the table - which Andy F/W proved in the last game with a 6250 break. Commendations for the Clayton & Keymer and the Watermill: Mill players Big Norm and Kim Stenning scored 5ks at the Legion, whilst Saints players SpecialOne and Matt Geal scored similar at t'Mill. Reasonable table performances at Hurst and Plough, where both tables saw scores of 4ks from either sides. White Horse and Royals tables saw a dip in performance, though..... there were eight scores of less than 2.5k out in the Barn, and Bobhall's indictment on the Unicorn top was that is was 'very poor, the break was impossible and it had a right-hand roll'. Don't hold back, Bob, tell it like it is. ;) ;D
1 Brewers (Bravos/Droops) 2 Greyhound 3 Hurstpierpoint 4 United Services 5 Laughing Fish 6 Handcross 7 Clayton&Keymer 8 Eight Bells 9 Watermill 10 Plough 11 White Horse 12 Brewers (Royals) 13 St Francis
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 19:53:32 GMT
Week 26, and another mixed bag of table performances: Three (Plough, 8 Bells and the Fish) had average performances - several 3k's, and so stay put, whereas one table, Handcross, was blatantly poor with home skipper tommo tearing out what hair he has left over seven scores of less than 2k. They go down one rung as a result. The Watermill had three scores of over 4k which is sufficient to warrant a leg up, whilst the top scores of the week were all made on the top three tables, so no change there, just "commendations".
1 Brewers (Bravos/Droops) 2 Greyhound 3 Hurstpierpoint 4 United Services 5 Laughing Fish 6 Clayton&Keymer 7 Handcross 8 Watermill 9 Eight Bells 10 Plough 11 White Horse 12 Brewers (Royals) 13 St Francis
Scores of note at: 1) Brewers.....S.Morris 9140; R.Spurrier 6560. 2) Greyhound.....N.Burchell 7050; T.Rees 6750. 3) Hurst.....BobHall 6800; PapaHall 5560.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 9:32:55 GMT
Week 27, and no adverse reports on any of the seven tables that had a game, Royals being the only one not to see a 5k score, although H's 4270 would have been more had he not pegged a thousand-plus. Bravo's 10,370 was sufficent justification to take the CKRBL table above the Fish. Watermill goes up a rung on the back of Mr Reaper's 7340 and Lady H's 6140, whilst there was a stirring at the foot of the table from St Francis where SpecialOne banged in 7090 and ManleyHarveys 5400. The top tables continue to perform well: Noddy scored 5080 and Mama Hall 5040 on the Brewers; Steve King 5200 on the Hurst; and Sparky 5760 and Terry Gasson 5650 at the United Services Club.
1 Brewers (Bravos/Droops) 2 Greyhound 3 Hurstpierpoint 4 United Services 5 Clayton&Keymer 6 Laughing Fish 7 Watermill 8 Handcross 9 Eight Bells 10 Plough 11 White Horse 12 St Francis 13 Brewers (Royals)
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2009 14:28:44 GMT
Week 28. Scores were good again this week, but a log-jam at the top and in the middle of the tables table means that only CKRBL benefits - where Derek Taylor scored the highest this season on that top - a mighty 10,210. Commendations for Bravos (Spud 6410), Greyhound (Paul Goodwin 5640, Geoff Fairs 6240 and Trevor Howes 6220 for visiting White Horse) and Hurst , where a 7800 aggregate was made in one game and the Reaper spilled a 6k break in another). Further down, H scored 8k and there were 3 other 4k's at the Fish; a fine 7610 was recorded by Kim Stenning and 5ks' also from John Staplehurst and the visiting Sparky at the Watermill; and the Handcross is playing well again with the break shot possible as Graham Daniels proved with 5210. The Plough drops a rung with no scores of note and for once Jock rendered speechless. ;)
1 Brewers (Bravos/Droops) 2 Greyhound 3 Hurstpierpoint 4 Clayton&Keymer 5 United Services 6 Laughing Fish 7 Watermill 8 Handcross 9 Eight Bells 10 White Horse 11 Plough 12 St Francis 13 Brewers (Royals)
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 12:19:37 GMT
Week 29, 1 more to go. Brewers main bar table justifies its place as the top table thanks to a high-scoring match v Clayton & Keymer in which Dilly scored 7670 and Pete Edwards 5280 for the visitors and the Farmer 5070 and Sir Jock 11710 for the homesters: Jock's score included an opening break of 10k. John Lear's 6360 was sufficient to move the Hurst table back up into second spot. United services takes a creditable fourth place thanks to Sparky's 6670 and 5110 from visiting Ploughman Geoff Parsons. Watermill moves into the top half of the table from two reasonable 5k performance from Barry Timson and Tommo. Only movement from the lower half is from the improving Eight Bells table where Sir KT drilled in 8220 and a Bobble Wobble was justified thanks to a fine 5360.
1 Brewers (Bravos/Droops) 2 Hurstpierpoint 3 Greyhound 4 United Services 5 Clayton&Keymer 6 Watermill 7 Laughing Fish 8 Eight Bells 9 Handcross 10 White Horse 11 Plough 12 St Francis 13 Brewers (Royals)
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Post by bobhall on May 11, 2009 13:08:31 GMT
tommo i would say the 8 bells table should not move as if you look at the total home score it doesnt even add up to my score this table was very tricky and didnt recieve the bobble wobble
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 13:14:51 GMT
Well, Bob, that was its last game and my own table at Handcross was the one that it swapped over with. Which leaves me with some incentive to get it really good for the visit of Saints on Wednesday night. ;)
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Post by BB Warrior on May 11, 2009 14:36:20 GMT
tommo i would say the 8 bells table should not move as if you look at the total home score it doesnt even add up to my score this table was very tricky and didnt recieve the bobble wobble Your 5k score at the Eight Bells puts you in a very exclusive club Bobhall...... only SirKT and H (apart from me) have also hit more than 5k in the League there this season..... ;) .....although XPTG did hit 5k when the table was at the Sportsman, but the scores were generally higher overall then than they are now. Unfortunately, the cloth was ripped by the D and the repair made to it does make the ball hard to spot accurately on one side..... until the table is re-clothed and levelled properly (for some reason, it keeps changing to chronically uphill in between the matches I have played there! :o) it will not be as good as it used to be when it was at the Sportsman....... :-X
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2009 17:53:10 GMT
Week 30 and the last ! And with all matches going to the home sides there was a mixture of good and 'disappointing'. BobHall was 'disappointed with the Brewers top' which appeared to have been tampered with by person or persons unknown: (no reflection on any team members, it should be stressed.) Hurst saw 7520 from Steve King and Greyhound 7920 from Trevor Rees, which means that both tables were able to leapfrog. Clayton & Keymer was reported as being 'not brilliant' by Sparky, and a good 6770 from John Staplehurst at the Watermill and 6450 from Andy Brooks at the Laughing Fish means a similar leapfrog situation. Further down, the same situation yet again where Handcross was admitted as being 'no great shakes' by tommo, and gains were made by White Horse (Trevor Howes 6810 in the fulfilled postponed fixture) and Plough, where young Mark Potter led off with 6370 and finished with a personal best league score of 8080.
1 Hurstpierpoint 2 Greyhound 3 Brewers (Bravos/Droops) 4 United Services 5 Watermill 6 Laughing Fish 7 Clayton&Keymer 8 Eight Bells 9 White Horse 10 Plough 11 Handcross 12 St Francis 13 Brewers (Royals)
Feel free to lodge your conclusions whatever they may be. What I take from this personally is that a) Greyhound have won the league fairly and squarely on a high-scoring table; b) The Hurst table, after its Christmas blip, is back where is rightfully belongs; and c) The Handcross table could do with a new top with some decent cushions. I consider that I have done my best with its upkeep, but failed, and as they say......"You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"
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Post by iang on May 16, 2009 19:59:55 GMT
Good work Tommo. I think a pretty fair reflection overall. It's great to be back on top sorry about the pun. Not so good on the Handcross front my old home table where I have enjoyed many good matches & the table used be one of the best. I know you have done all you can. Hopefully Mr Tarratt will listen to your pleas.
Thanks for all the effort that has gone into this " Bit of fun" Ian.
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Post by H on May 16, 2009 23:30:41 GMT
Personally, I've greatly enjoyed following the movement of the tables throughout the season, but having played on them, I would say the list differs quite a lot from my own ranking of them...
It would be interesting to see how this develops for next season. I was thinking of perhaps a slightly more complex "ranking point" system for tables...still just for fun, obviously - but perhaps something a bit more detailed than just "up if a bit hit, down if not".
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Post by BB Warrior on May 17, 2009 8:25:32 GMT
Yes, a big thank you to Tommo for keeping this going throughout the season..... despite some early criticism (much of it from me! :-[) about how the tables were rated. Sorry about that...... :-X
I have watched with interest how the tables have moved up and down and although, like H, I wouldn't necessarily agree in the final positions I would say that the tables that I would generally regard as "better" have ended up near the top. 8-)
Hopefully, I will be able to provide a "statistical" list for the tables in the fairly near future, which will show the figures for both the overall averages (home & away teams) for each table together with just the Away Teams which, in my opinion is the fairest way to judge how good a table is.
it will be interesting to compare these to Tommo's list...... even though neither will probably agree with my own personal view of the best tables in Mid-Sussex which would be......
1) United Services Club (has played superbly every time I have been there! ;D) 2) White Horse (before the building work! ::)) 3) Greyhound (a thinking man's table! 8-))
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Post by bobhall on May 19, 2009 23:10:09 GMT
i dont suppose any 1 could let me know wat the total score was on hurst club this season n any other table?
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Post by BB Warrior on May 20, 2009 7:00:09 GMT
i dont suppose any 1 could let me know wat the total score was on hurst club this season n any other table? That will be shown on the "alternate Tables Table" that I will be putting on here once I have received the information from the OldFella..... ;)
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Post by bobhall on May 20, 2009 8:44:38 GMT
thank you dave
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Post by H on Nov 19, 2009 13:26:30 GMT
I remember that it was my whining that prompted this last year. Let it be so again. I think this thread needs resurrecting!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2009 15:57:43 GMT
I don't really think it would work as well this year, Henry.
The main season is less than half that of last year in length (14 games as opposed to 30) and with split divisions not all venues get visited by all teams. Throw the regular 'Byes' into the mix and there wouldn't be enough matches to assess to make it meaningful.
If anyone else can think of a way to revitalize it, be my guest. :D ;D
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Post by H on Nov 19, 2009 16:59:52 GMT
Point well made. Just some simple cumulative scoring stats for each table or something would be interesting to see...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2009 17:40:30 GMT
Agreed, that's the 'way forward' for this season. Over to Warrior then, to obtain the information as promised : i dont suppose any 1 could let me know wat the total score was on hurst club this season n any other table? That will be shown on the "alternate Tables Table" that I will be putting on here once I have received the information from the OldFella..... ;) I can offer the loan of a set of thumbscrews and a torque wrench if required. ;D ;D
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Post by BB Warrior on Nov 19, 2009 18:47:11 GMT
I did post some statistics at the end of last season....... under the thread of "Mid-Sussex Tables Performances 2008 / 09". 8-)
But, I would only normally receive that type of information at the end of the season to act as a Back-Up for the OldFella..... ;)
I know that he does update his stats when he receives the weekly result sheets, so perhaps someone would like to speak to him about this.....? 8-)
However, although statistics will help to identify tables that are playing both well and badly..... they won't help to improve them. ::)
The only way to do that is for someone to put in a formal complaint to the League Committee about a table and ask them to get someone to look at it. ;)
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