Mid-Sussex Table Performances 2008 / 09

[BB Warrior]

Information courtesy of the Old Fella...... 8-)

Starting off with how Teams performed on their own home table.....

Home Team Table Record
                       2008 / 09 Season                    2007 / 08      Average
Pos Team               Total Points Team Aver  Player Aver  Pos Player AComparison

 1  Hurst A              286,650      19,110      4,154      1   4,534     -380
 2  Laughing Fish        294,050      19,603      4,028     N/A   N/A       N/A
 3  Greyhound            295,230      19,682      3,990      3   3,820      170
 4  Hurst B              275,370      18,358      3,721      2   3,824     -103
 5  Brewers Droops       269,880      17,992      3,647      5   2,629     1,018
 6  Watermill A          258,630      17,242      3,448      6   2,543      905
 7  Handcross Z          240,920      16,061      3,212      4   3,500     -288
 8  CKRBL                233,080      15,539      3,150      7   2,516      634
 9  Brewers Bravos       205,940      13,729      2,783     11   1,610     1,173
 10 Eight Bells          192,180      12,812      2,562     10   1,973      589
 11 St Francis           179,690      11,979      2,462      8   2,406      56
 12 United Services      180,810      12,054      2,443     N/A   N/A       N/A
 13 Plough               181,440      12,096      2,419      9   2,244      175
 14 White Horse          154,660      10,311      2,148     12   1,543      605
 15 Watermill B          127,780      8,519       1,704     14   1,232      472
 16 Brewers Royals        89,060      5,937       1,187     N/A   N/A       N/A


And then how the Away Teams found each venue.......

Away Team Table Record
                       2008 / 09 Season                    2007 / 08      Average
Pos Team               Total Points Team Aver  Player Aver  Pos Player AComparison

 1  United Services      229,270      15,285      3,098     N/A   N/A       N/A
 2  Watermill B          219,860      14,657      2,971      8    2133      838
 3  Laughing Fish        204,400      13,627      2,800     N/A   N/A       N/A
 4  White Horse          200,050      13,337      2,778      6    2235      543
 5  Greyhound            199,450      13,297      2,695      7    2224      471
 6  CKRBL                190,680      12,712      2,577     11    1866      711
 7  Hurst A              177,470      11,831      2,572      2    2375      197
 8  Hurst B              189,900      12,660      2,566      1    2433      133
 9  Brewers Bravos       186,510      12,434      2,520      5    2239      281
 10 Brewers Droops       177,100      11,807      2,393     12    1824      569
 11 Brewers Royals       178,310      11,887      2,377     N/A   N/A       N/A
 12 Watermill A          170,850      11,390      2,278     13    1787      491
 13 Eight Bells          157,400      10,493      2,099      3    2357     -258
 14 Handcross Z          145,620      9,708       1,942      4    2260     -318
 15 Plough               137,180      9,145       1,829      9    1998     -169
 16 St Francis           125,460      8,364       1,719     14    1689      30


And finally, how the figures combine and a comparison to last season...... and Tommo's Tables Table!! ;D

Combined Team Table Record
                       2008 / 09 Season                    2007 / 08      Average   Tommo
Pos Team                Home Aver   Away Aver  Average GamePos  Aver GamComparison Ranking

 1  Laughing Fish         4,028       2,800       6,828     N/A   N/A       N/A       6
 2  Hurst A               4,154       2,572       6,726      1    6909     -183       1
 3  Greyhound             3,990       2,695       6,685      3    6044      641       2
 4  Hurst B               3,721       2,566       6,287      2    6257      30        1
 5  Brewers Droops        3,647       2,393       6,040      5    4453     1,587      3
 6  CKRBL                 3,150       2,577       5,727      6    4382     1,345      7
 7  Watermill A           3,448       2,278       5,726      7    4330     1,396      5
 8  United Services       2,443       3,098       5,541     N/A   N/A       N/A       4
 9  Brewers Bravos        2,783       2,520       5,303     11    3849     1,454      3
 10 Handcross Z           3,212       1,942       5,154      4    5760     -606       11
 11 White Horse           2,148       2,778       4,926     12    3778     1,148      9
 12 Watermill B           1,704       2,971       4,675     13    3365     1,310      5
 13 Eight Bells           2,562       2,099       4,661      7    4330      331       8
 14 Plough                2,419       1,829       4,248      9    4242       6        10
 15 St Francis            2,462       1,719       4,181     10    4095      86        12
 16 Brewers Royals        1,187       2,377       3,564     N/A   N/A       N/A       13


So, what conclusions can we draw from these......

Two new teams in the League have tables to be proud of..... the Laughing Fish tops the overall list and United Services Club top the Away Team Records. 8-) Full credit for these must go to H and Sparky who both look after these tables very well...... ;D ;)

The most improved tables in the League are at the Brewers (main table), Watermill, CKRBL and White Horse..... all of which have seen significant improvements to the scores being made by both Home and Away players. ;)

The Greyhound and Hurst Club remain among the best tables in the League.... but the Eight Bells has slipped dramatically down the list for Away Players - although it improved for home players, at least while it was at the Sportsman anyway! :P ::)

The Handcross top has slipped down the table considerably (as stated by Tommo - and despite his hard work on it) and the new tops at Plough and St Francis remain tricky for visitors.... :-/

Bringing up the rear this season is the Royals table at the Brewers, which has taken time for the home team to settle on after their mid-season move, but still has a fairly good away average.

It was interesting to compare the actual "statistics" to Tommo's Tables Table...... especially as (with the exception of the Laughing Fish) his table was very close to the final positions. ;D 8-)

[H]

Thanks Dave. A very interesting and comprehensive look at the quality of the tables. I don't know why the fish table slipped so much in Tommo's rankings - as I stated on the other thread, I'm not sure the "big hit = up, not = down" system works, but hey, its all a bit of fun and has been very interesting to follow

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May 25, 2009 15:22:08 GMT H said:

Thanks Dave. A very interesting and comprehensive look at the quality of the tables. I don't know why the fish table slipped so much in Tommo's rankings - as I stated on the other thread, I'm not sure the "big hit = up, not = down" system works, but hey, its all a bit of fun and has been very interesting to follow

Unfortunately H, the downward spiral for the Fish in Tommo's Tables from top in week 20 to 6th place in the end was started by your own description of the table being appalling.....!! :o :-X

That was in week 22, with the Greyhound having gone top the week before. After that, every time you seemed to play at home, all of the other teams near the top had good scores as well..... with teams moving above you when you were away from home, often helped by your own performances at venues!! ;D ;D

Neither the above statistics or Tommo's method of "marking" the tables is really an accurate guide to how good a table really is...... both are very dependent upon the home team players that play there, as would be proved if you took your figures off those for the Fish table this season! ;D ;D

For that reason, I feel that the Away Team Table probably is the most accurate guide to which are the best tables in the League as they are played by everybody the same number of times........ and, funnily enough, I seem to remember saying on Tommo's thread that the USC top was the best that I have played in Mid-Sussex this year! ;D ;D 8-)

A reasonable assessment.

I am shocked though, that only one table (USC) managed an average 3k score by away players. And with only a few hundred covering the top nine, they all look much of a muchness.

Still, the standard did improve on last season - as witnessed by the average comparison column - but IMHO there's still plenty of room for improvement ! ;)

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May 25, 2009 16:37:38 GMT tommo III said:

A reasonable assessment.

I am shocked though, that only one table (USC) managed an average 3k score by away players. And with only a few hundred covering the top nine, they all look much of a muchness.

Still, the standard did improve on last season - as witnessed by the average comparison column - but IMHO there's still plenty of room for improvement ! ;)

I agree entirely.... there is still room for improvement. ;)

But, what I do think is very encouraging is that the highest average on an away table (Hurst B - 2,433) last season would only have been placed in 10th place this season. :o 8-) 8-)