you will get no end of advice here about tables, the common ones are Jelkes and Sams, but beware of Sams as some are narrow playing surface width. I would reccomend Jelkes. BTW where are you situated? 8-)
Thanks for the info - probably looking at getting the Riley (due to the price!) if there isn't that much difference. I have asked for some photos so hopefully it looks authentic too (not too keen on the new looking tables...).
I'm based in York (or will be soon), just by the city walls. I might look into becoming a member - you guys are super fast at responding and very helpful too :)
I have seen a couple on Ebay and Gumtree - but they do look like they need some tlc (polish, new cloths, etc). Also, it seems like the coin part seems to have gone on the older ones. Who would you recommend to do the refurb (mainly as I know nothing about it!).
What would be a good price to pay for one? I saw a Sams one for £200 and a Giles one for £500 (have to pay to transport it to York as well) - both in need of a refurb in my opinion. You guys wouldn't know if anyone wants to sell one?
Golden Ball is pretty cool pub, loads of little rooms and nice beer garden - they've got a bar billiard table there too.
The £200 table shortly to finish on Ebay is not a standard width pub table. being four inches narrower than normal and all the holes nearer the top cushion.
Refurbishing is a problem as there are very few people who will refurb a table to top player's standards with top quality cloth. Virtually none of the 'Refurbishers' play the game and have any idea what is necessary to make a table truly enjoyable to play on. Most of the refurb jobs I have seen have been pretty poor. This is particularly true away from the home counties.
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Be very careful on the Riley front (Giles also) as they can often be the wrong size top for a proper table.
you will notice the 200 hole and the 100 are evenly distant from the 50's
The correct formation will have the 100 slightly further away from the 50's than the 200
The pattern should be like a diamond rather than a square
Best of luck!
True on the hole config, but not Rileys. Narrow applies to some Sams and the unknown make four pin tables from East Anglia (possibly Padmore), normally with cue holder holes across the front.
Rileys and Burroughs and Watts are very similar (early Rileys are allegedly B & W copies) and the playing area is very slighty (almost insignificantly) wider than standard Sams or Jelkes. B & W are well made tables but Riley are a bit flimsy IMHO.
Just a thought - we have quite an interchange of correspondence going here on the Non-members thread. Why not join the forum as a member? It costs nothing, is relatively easy to do and will gain you access to our sections on Table maintenance, etc.
We already have a couple of active members up in Yorkshire who met up recently for a friendly challenge. And I'm sure our members would like to see a photo of your new acquisition in all its glory. ;)