Week 14 Banter and Tipsters

Week 14 - 12/01/2011                        

Greyhound       v      Mill House Z            
Usually a tough one for the Zeds, this, tommo particularly profligate having spilled 6k here two years running. Only a 3-2 for us at best.
Watermill A      v      Woolpack            
T'Mill will bounce back from yesterday's heavy defeat and inflict one of their own.
Brewers Arms      v      United Services Club            
Arms are now joint-top of the division and on a roll. 4-1 to them methinks.
Hurst A      v      Hurst B            
With local knowledge, all games should really go with the break. But I think the A's will find a hero and that could well be Robbie Rotten. ;) 8-)
Laughing Fish      v      Brewers Bravos            
Close, but with the Fish just edging it. Can see in the Xtal ball the ponytails playing each other, so Bravo winners will be Spud and Paul M-R.
Plough Plumpton      v      Watermill B            
Not much joy here for the Bees, 5-0 to the Plough.
Eight Bells      v      St Francis            
If Chelsea are on the pub's widescreen, SpecialOne could have his attention diverted which will let the Bells in for a 3-2. Shame no Joppers - just the person to stand up to the arrogant local bully who dominates proceedings from the other end of the bar. >:(
Horns Lodge      v      Plough Lower Beeding            
Basement tussle with the Horny ones enjoying a rare 4-1 success.

[bobhall]

well tommo i am hoping i am against the break and after our chat on tuesday i watched the said programme on the net and wow it makes me chuckle

Jan 7, 2011 9:41:25 GMT specialone said:

I also had a problems. Think it was the large number of people trying to read about my 6k score at the Saints.
TSO

I reckon some industrial espionage has taken place here, and at dead of night you've swapped your old table over with Sparky's at 'the other club'. ;D  

[specialone]

I must deny the swap. However I would suggest trying the break left handed at the other club.

Jan 7, 2011 12:01:59 GMT specialone said:

I must deny the swap. However I would suggest trying the break left handed at the other club.

That confirms it for definite, then! ;D ;D



(Moving last three posts on here over to the 'Banter' thread)

[bobhall]

well the break going left goes perfect into the 100 hole and shaun your table is ok you just need to learn to play it and then 10k will be flowing :) :)

[BB Warrior]

Jan 7, 2011 12:01:59 GMT specialone said:

I must deny the swap. However I would suggest trying the break left handed at the other club.

I will be interested to see what has happened to the USC table when we play there in the Lewes League on Monday night..... the last 2 times we have played there I've had breaks of 10k and 13k on the table and, apart from needing a touch of left and the correct pace on the ball, I found the break shot very easy.

In our last 2 home Lewes matches (end November and Mid-December), there have been two scores of 10k+ and 4 other scores of 5k+, not including the 12.5k break that Andy-Farmer-Wright unfortunately lost in his match..... yet over the same period, the same table has slipped down the "Tables Table" in Mid-Sussex to second bottom and several people have commented on how difficult it is..... ::)

Perhaps the table has changed since we last played there 3 weeks ago...... but I would humbly suggest that anybody who is putting the white in the 100 hole off the break shot is hitting the balls much harder than is necessary for a conventional break shot on any table.......not just the USC. :P

[bobhall]

well my comment is on usc the break is ok its not to hard to get needs left on it but 1 thing i did was got to comfortable on it and you cant. also the split was on or at least i thought :) but the back of the table was very hard at the back of the table but il be honest. it was tricky but i do believe it will soon be 1 of the best tables in the league.

[specialone]

Only me
Hound 1 Z's 4
Z bandwagon rolls on. Peter barks for the Hounds

Waremill A 5 Woolie 0
Backlash big style. If the mill do win 5-0 I reckon all 5 of their players will win.

Brewers Arms 4 other club 1
other club will not be used to playing on a decent top.

Hurst A 2 Hurst B 3
As this is singles and not doubles, Rotten Robbie to get beat.

Fish 3 Bravos 2
H, Bravo, and Spud are my brave shouts

PPG 4 Watermill 1
Mill go Dutch

Every time I tip the Bells for a shock defeat they prove me wrong. I have finally learnt my lesson. The hell I have
8 Bells 2 Saints 3
No Christian charity from the Saints, who descend upon Bolney like a pack of rabid wild dogs.

Horny Lodge 2 PLB 3
KS for the horny ones, landlord for the vistors.

TSO

[iang]

Such style from the SPECIAL one

[BB Warrior]

Okay, let me dust off my crystal ball and see if I can make up some points on Robbie Rotten.... ;D

Greyhound v Mill House Z            
Hard to see beyond another Zeds win based on recent form, but think it will be close and I don't think there will be many big scores.  SuperG, Mr Mike and Alan to win for the visitors, TiR, Peter B or Geoff for the home team.

Watermill A v Woolpack            
Another defeat for the Woolies, either 5-0 or 4-1 if Malc can grab one for the visitors.  Big Norm, Kim & Chris for the home side with defeats for Anne & Jan.

Brewers Arms v United Services Club            
Sparky and Terry G will both enjoy the table here but Andy will lose, so the visitors could grab a couple of points, but Jock, Andy and Dilly will ensure a home win.

Hurst A v Hurst B            
The Hurst Derby will be an interesting affair with some high scoring games.  The A's will win the night thank to wins by Baby G, Robbie Rotten and Pete E, with King Steve and Darrell hitting back for the visiting B's but Ian G is defeated.

Laughing Fish v Brewers Bravos            
With a kind draw, the Bravos could win this game but, knowing Spud's luck, he will draw H against the break and the Fish will then win the match.  Home wins for H, Andy and Ray, Adam the only Bravo cheering at the end of the night with defeats for Spud and PMR.

Plough Plumpton v Watermill B            
The Flying Dutchman may take a point for the visitors but defeats for both Gavins mean the Plough  should certainly get at least a 4-1 with wins for Chase, Darren and Jan.

Eight Bells v St Francis
This match really could go either way, the Bells will be favorites if Nick is around but the Saints will go marching home with a win if he isn't.  Ros, Doug and Nick (if there) for the home team, TSO, Manly Harveys and Matt (if Nick isn't there) for the visitors. :-/

Horns Lodge v Plough Lower Beeding            
The visiting Mark and Geoff will always keep PLB in the hunt, but the Lodge to win this 3-2 thanks to "Home Geoff", Kev and one other.

[H]

No Chris for the Fish tonight - he's in Morrocco

[bobhall]

Greyhound       v      Mill House Z    
could this be the 1st defeat for the mill house i think not i see a 3-2 away win tonight with super g mike and alan winning for z and ted and trevor for the greyhound

     
Watermill A      v      Woolpack  
watermill a will pleasure this as we are only allowed to nominate 3 players i will say norman kim and john to win for a's and lynne, anne and malcolm both to lose as a 5-0 whitewash

       
Brewers Arms      v      United Services Club        
usc will like this but the top is too nice for them and a 4-1 home win is on cards jock derek and dilly all enjoy the table mick the winner for usc but terry and graham lose  


Hurst A      v      Hurst B        
the local derby tonight so a 4-1 home win tonight bobhall babyguiness and papa hall winning and steve darrell and ian losing for hurst b tonight
 
Laughing Fish      v      Brewers Bravos      
its like ducks swimming here but the fish get nipped by a 3-2 away win. H and ray winning and andy to lose. then bravo spud and nikki win for brewers.

     
Plough Plumpton      v      Watermill B        
well this is not a shock but 4-1 home win tonight with gavin(not the landlord) winning for watermill b  but gavin(landlord and dutchmen losing) dave ron and jan winning tonight for plough

 
Eight Bells      v      St Francis            
3-2 home win shaun and matt winning but nick doug and trevor win for eight bells

Horns Lodge      v      Plough Lower Beeding
lodge win this 3-2 tonight kev geoff win for lodge  but mark and mark both win for plb

[iang]

Jan 12, 2011 11:40:12 GMT bobhall said:

Greyhound       v      Mill House Z    
could this be the 1st defeat for the mill house i think not i see a 3-2 away win tonight with super g mike and alan winning for z and ted and trevor for the greyhound

     
Watermill A      v      Woolpack  
watermill a will pleasure this as we are only allowed to nominate 3 players i will say norman kim and john to win for a's and lynne, anne and malcolm both to lose as a 5-0 whitewash

       
Brewers Arms      v      United Services Club        
usc will like this but the top is too nice for them and a 4-1 home win is on cards jock derek and dilly all enjoy the table mick the winner for usc but terry and graham lose  


Hurst A      v      Hurst B        
the local derby tonight so a 4-1 home win tonight bobhall babyguiness and papa hall winning and steve darren and ian losing for hurst b tonight
 
Laughing Fish      v      Brewers Bravos      
its like ducks swimming here but the fish get nipped by a 3-2 away win. H and ray winning and andy to lose. then bravo spud and nikki win for brewers.

     
Plough Plumpton      v      Watermill B        
well this is not a shock but 4-1 home win tonight with gavin(not the landlord) winning for watermill b  but gavin(landlord and dutchmen losing) dave ron and jan winning tonight for plough

 
Eight Bells      v      St Francis            
3-2 home win shaun and matt winning but nick doug and trevor win for eight bells

Horns Lodge      v      Plough Lower Beeding
lodge win this 3-2 tonight kev geoff win for lodge  but mark and mark both win for plb

Talk about keep it in the family Rob.  
You must have some knowledge of my team that I don't Know I thought Darren played for the Plough ;D

[BB Warrior]

Tommo first then.....

Jan 6, 2011 14:15:57 GMT tommo III said:

Week 14 - 12/01/2011                        

Greyhound 2 Mill House Z 3
Usually a tough one for the Zeds, this, tommo particularly profligate having spilled 6k here two years running. Only a 3-2 for us at best.
2 points for the correct result..... plus a bonus for gaining revenge for your previous defeat. ;D

Watermill A 5 Woolpack 0
T'Mill will bounce back from yesterday's heavy defeat and inflict one of their own.
You can't get much heavier than 5-0..... 2 points.

Brewers Arms 3 United Services Club 2
Arms are now joint-top of the division and on a roll. 4-1 to them methinks.
1 point for the home win.

Hurst A 2 Hurst B 3
With local knowledge, all games should really go with the break. But I think the A's will find a hero and that could well be Robbie Rotten. ;) 8-)
No points for the result..... but a bonus as RR did win

Laughing Fish 3 Brewers Bravos 2
Close, but with the Fish just edging it. Can see in the Xtal ball the ponytails playing each other, so Bravo winners will be Spud and Paul M-R.
3-2 is close, so 2 points..... plus bonus points for the win by H and Spud.

Plough Plumpton 3 Watermill B 2
Not much joy here for the Bees, 5-0 to the Plough.
1 point for the home win.

Eight Bells 1 St Francis 4
If Chelsea are on the pub's widescreen, SpecialOne could have his attention diverted which will let the Bells in for a 3-2. Shame no Joppers - just the person to stand up to the arrogant local bully who dominates proceedings from the other end of the bar. >:(
No points for the result..... but a bonus for pointing out the problem of the local bully (I wonder of it is the same one that I fell out with....?)

Horns Lodge 4 Plough Lower Beeding 1
Basement tussle with the Horny ones enjoying a rare 4-1 success.
They did indeed for 2 good points. ;D

Points this week..... 15.0

[BB Warrior]

Now Spesh.....

Jan 9, 2011 19:56:45 GMT specialone said:

Only me
Hound 1 Z's 4
Z bandwagon rolls on. Peter barks for the Hounds
The Zed-Wagon rolled on slower than usual with a 3-2 win, so 1 point for the away win but you barked up the wrong tree with Peter.

Waremill A 5 Woolie 0
Backlash big style. If the mill do win 5-0 I reckon all 5 of their players will win.
Absolutely spot on for 2 points...... plus 3 bonus points for your astute prediction that if all 5 Mill players won then their team would win 5-0..... most impressive. ::) ;D ;D

Brewers Arms 4 other club 1
other club will not be used to playing on a decent top.
A 3-2 home win gives you 1 point......

Hurst A 2 Hurst B 3
As this is singles and not doubles, Rotten Robbie to get beat.
Correct result for 2 points......sadly, no bonus though. :'(

Fish 3 Bravos 2
H, Bravo, and Spud are my brave shouts
2 points for the correct result, plus 3 points for bravery.... ::)

PPG 4 Watermill 1
Mill go Dutch
A 3-2 home win gives you 1 point..... but no Dutch bonus with Martin losing the decider to Darren.

Every time I tip the Bells for a shock defeat they prove me wrong. I have finally learnt my lesson. The hell I have
8 Bells 2 Saints 3
No Christian charity from the Saints, who descend upon Bolney like a pack of rabid wild dogs.
A 4-1 away win for the Rabid Wild Dogs gives you 1 point....... plus 2 points for the best tipster post of the week. ;D

Horny Lodge 2 PLB 3
KS for the horny ones, landlord for the vistors.
A 4-1 home win means no points for the result.....but a bonus for KS who (unfortunately as far as your tips were concerned) beat the visiting landlord....
TSO  

Points this week...... 19.0

[BB Warrior]

Jan 11, 2011 9:28:13 GMT BB Warrior said:

Okay, let me dust off my crystal ball and see if I can make up some points on Robbie Rotten.... ;D

Greyhound 2 Mill House Z 3
Hard to see beyond another Zeds win based on recent form, but think it will be close and I don't think there will be many big scores.  SuperG, Mr Mike and Alan to win for the visitors, TiR, Peter B or Geoff for the home team.
2 points for the correct result, plus bonus points for the wins by Mr Mike, TiR and Geoff. :D

Watermill A 5 Woolpack 0
Another defeat for the Woolies, either 5-0 or 4-1 if Malc can grab one for the visitors.  Big Norm, Kim & Chris for the home side with defeats for Anne & Jan.
1.5 points for the result (as it was an either / or prediction).... plus 5 bonus points for predicting the winners and "loosers".... ;D

Brewers Arms 3 United Services Club 2
Sparky and Terry G will both enjoy the table here but Andy will lose, so the visitors could grab a couple of points, but Jock, Andy and Dilly will ensure a home win.
2 points for the correct result..... Plus 3 bonus points for the wins by Sparky, Jock and Andy.

Hurst A 2 Hurst B 3
The Hurst Derby will be an interesting affair with some high scoring games.  The A's will win the night thank to wins by Baby G, Robbie Rotten and Pete E, with King Steve and Darrell hitting back for the visiting B's but Ian G is defeated.
No points for the result..... but 5 bonus points for the wins by Robbie Rotten, Pete E, King Steve, Darrell and the loss by Ian G.

Laughing Fish 3 Brewers Bravos 2
With a kind draw, the Bravos could win this game but, knowing Spud's luck, he will draw H against the break and the Fish will then win the match.  Home wins for H, Andy and Ray, Adam the only Bravo cheering at the end of the night with defeats for Spud and PMR.
1 point for the home win plus bonus points for the wins by H, Andy and Adam and the defeat for PMR.

Plough Plumpton 3 Watermill B 2
The Flying Dutchman may take a point for the visitors but defeats for both Gavins mean the Plough  should certainly get at least a 4-1 with wins for Chase, Darren and Jan.
1 point for the home win plus a bonus point for the win by Darren and defeat of a Gavin.

Eight Bells 1 St Francis 4
This match really could go either way, the Bells will be favorites if Nick is around but the Saints will go marching home with a win if he isn't.  Ros, Doug and Nick (if there) for the home team, TSO, Manly Harveys and Matt (if Nick isn't there) for the visitors. :-/
No Doug seems even worse than no Nick and means no win for 8 Bells...... but 1 point for the Away win plus 3 bonus points for the wins by TSO, Manly Harveys and Matt.

Horns Lodge 4 Plough Lower Beeding 1
The visiting Mark and Geoff will always keep PLB in the hunt, but the Lodge to win this 3-2 thanks to "Home Geoff", Kev and one other.
1 point for the home win.... plus 2 bonus points for wins by home Geoff and Kev

Points this week..... 36.5

[BB Warrior]

Now our leader.....

Jan 12, 2011 11:40:12 GMT bobhall said:

Greyhound 2 Mill House Z 3
could this be the 1st defeat for the mill house i think not i see a 3-2 away win tonight with super g mike and alan winning for z and ted and trevor for the greyhound
Correct result for 2 points, plus bonuses for wins by Mike and Trevor.
     
Watermill A 5 Woolpack 0
watermill a will pleasure this as we are only allowed to nominate 3 players i will say norman kim and john to win for a's and lynne, anne and malcolm both to lose as a 5-0 whitewash
Correct result for 2 points.....plus the full 6 bonus point for all individual tips correct.
       
Brewers Arms 3 United Services Club 2
usc will like this but the top is too nice for them and a 4-1 home win is on cards jock derek and dilly all enjoy the table mick the winner for usc but terry and graham lose
1 point for the home win.... plus 2 bonus points for the win by Jock and Terry's result.

Hurst A 2 Hurst B 3
the local derby tonight so a 4-1 home win tonight ]bobhall babyguiness and papa hall winning and steve darrell and ian losing for hurst b tonight
Hmmmm, no points for the optimistic home win prediction then..... but bonus points for the win by Bobhall and defeat for Ian G
 
Laughing Fish 3 Brewers Bravos 2
its like ducks swimming here but the fish get nipped by a 3-2 away win. H and ray winning and andy to lose. then bravo spud and nikki win for brewers.
No points for the result, but bonus points for the wins by H, Bravo and Spud.
     
Plough Plumpton 3 Watermill B 2
well this is not a shock but 4-1 home win tonight with gavin(not the landlord) winning for watermill b  but gavin(landlord and dutchmen losing) dave ron and jan winning tonight for plough
1 point for the home win, bonus points for the wins by Dave & Ron and the Dutch defeat..... but the wrong Gavin won (I think...?)
 
Eight Bells 1 St Francis 4
3-2 home win shaun and matt winning but nick doug and trevor win for eight bells
No points for the result, so just 2 bonus points for TSO and Matt's wins for the Saints.

Horns Lodge 4 Plough Lower Beeding 1
lodge win this 3-2 tonight kev geoff win for lodge  but mark and mark both win for plb
1 point for the home win.....plus 2 bonus points for the wins by Kev and Geoff for the Lodge

Points this week.... 29.0

[specialone]

I saw a werewolf with an Indian menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of Mid-Sussex in the rain
He was looking for a place called the 8 Bells
Gonna get a big dish of Chicken
AAAAHOOOO WEREWOLVES OF BOLNEY

Jan 12, 2011 23:39:06 GMT specialone said:

I saw a werewolf with an Indian menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of Mid-Sussex in the rain
He was looking for a place called the 8 Bells
Gonna get a big dish of Chicken
AAAAHOOOO WEREWOLVES OF BOLNEY

Must be worth a Springsteen bonus?

[iang]

Since last week where it was decided that it you could not predict a win & the go on & name all the  players for a win to get extra bonus points we now seem to have culture where you are tipping people to loose to gain extra bonus points.

This seems unsporting & bad manners to me as when you play you shake your opponants hand & wish them a good game, this precedes this by saying that they will loose.

if you correctly predict the result of the match it is then easy to go & say things like H will win or always pick out the strongest player for an extra point.

if you say someone will get a 5k break & they do then that is worth a bonus point.

Jan 13, 2011 18:26:39 GMT iang said:

we now seem to have culture where you are tipping people to lose to gain extra bonus points.

This seems unsporting & bad manners to me as when you play you shake your opponants hand & wish them a good game, this precedes this by saying that they will loose.

I agree with that sentiment, it is not sporting to tip someone to lose. Also to do it covertly, that is to say, "these four players out of the regular five will win".

I also agree, nothing wrong to tip someone to hit big.

A requisite with this 'bit of fun' is not to cause offence to any individuals.  Collectively, as a team, there's no harm as to tip a team to lose can have the effect of spurring them on to win.  ;)

[bobhall]

yes but this is banter it is a friendly game nothing to do with being unsupporting.

you can always join the tipsters

You must accept, though, Rob that some 'banter' oversteps the mark.  and I thought that you personally were on the wrong end of it whilst playing on Tuesday.

For that reason, I won't get involved in tipping the finishing order for the players performance, as it is someone's personal opinion of whether they rate players or not.  This can be unfair, you may have only seen someone's bad games and not really know what they're capable of.

[specialone]

Firstly I would like to sing the praises of this section. and the magnificent work of BBW.
I understand Iangs problem with wanting someone to loose after wishing them a good game, a perenial source of internal conflict in many sportspersons psyche, however not for me. On Wednesday, after shaking Ros's hand I used my standing 1st tee comment, 'Play well everyone, especially ME'. This works for me, niceties out of the way, I can concentrate on trying to score more than my opponent with a clear consience.

As for tipping someone to loose, I think this is being done 'in the best possible taste'. No one who looses loads of games, or is in possession of a fragile ego is getting the treatment.
More to follow, T20 from Oz

[BB Warrior]

Some very good points made here by everybody.

IMHO, I feel that everybody taking part in the Tipsters are staying within the boundaries of what can be accepted as sporting and are treating it as a bit of fun...... which is the whole point of this.

Although I do agree with IanG's post that to tip an individual to lose is perhaps bad manners, is that really any different to saying that a team will lose 3-2 and Player A and Player B will be the winners...... clearly that indicates that Players C, D and E are being tipped to lose. ::)

TSO has made the very valid point that we all play to win the game, no matter how sporting we may be (in victory or defeat) the whole point of the game is to score more than our opponents. 8-)

Personally, if somebody tipped me to lose a game I would not be offended in the slightest...... but it would make me more determined to try to prove them wrong. ;D

Having said that, I understand that everybody is different and would not wish anybody to be offended or upset by the Tipsters threads...... hopefully they have provided a bit of light-hearted entertainment for all, from the number of "posts" and "views" they have usually seemed more popular than the actual results themselves. :o 8-)

Next week is the half way stage of the season, so now would be a good time to decide IF we wish to continue with the current format or if we draw a line under this and start something new from Week 16 onwards..... ???

Over to you to decide......

Nothing at all to disagree with in the last two posts.
Okay to tip 3 winners out of a regular five, but not four, that's nasty !

In answer to BBW's canvassing of opinion, sterling work as SpecialOne says, but you will have found by now that the more complicated you make the system, or more leeway you allow, the bigger the rod for your own back!  Seemples is best. ;)

Having said that, can I suggest points fine for every time the word 'loose' is used instead of the correct terminology 'lose'. ;D ;D

[specialone]

I suppose they had to win one.
Thank you Tommo for pointing out my error. However as a some one who suffers from dyslexia, I have reported you to the dissabilities commission and expect BBW to take severe and punative action against you. Hope you loose a lot of points!

As for the bonus points. I have pointed out just how cheaply they can be earned. When helping myself I have highlighted them as 'brave shouts'. A look at week 8 will show where the quality is. All 8 right, with 6 correct scores. The man's a genius and a legend!

The banter and tipster section is all part of a well used and vibrant Mid-Sussex board. I don't think any one has genuinly fallen out (no mods involved) despite the fact that one player in particular has been ruthlessly persicuted. I have even questioned his sexuality (well who wouldn't?). It would appear from your post that he was the victim of some nasty stuff on Tuesday, this was obviously unfortunate, unfortunate I wasn't there to see it!

Great game as it is, from time to time Bar Bills needs a bit of spicing up, but within limits. True that the rabid wild dogs ripped in to Bolney, but they did it in a well mannered way, and left over £100 in the local economy (behind the bar).

It is a tribute to this league that we can post such stuff, without taking ourselves too seriously and falling out.
Shaun

[bobhall]

i dont understand why people worry from the start people tip me to lose but it makes me more determined i feel people who tip people to lose are doing it for fun i tipped darrell and steve king to lose they won.

so they were determined to win on the night. at the end of the day this is a game not a job, and i think certain people are forgetting that if they are getting angry at this.

getting tipped to lose and being subjected on the proboards doesnt really matter i was subjected to it by the whole of my opponents and home team when i played on tuesday but you just get on with it.

Jan 12, 2011 11:40:12 GMT bobhall said:

Greyhound       v      Mill House Z    
could this be the 1st defeat for the mill house i think not i see a 3-2 away win tonight with super g mike and alan winning for z and ted and trevor for the greyhound

True Bob,
Barry and I were both so devastated to see see you had tipped us to lose on Wednesday that we gave it 200%. I thought I'm damned if I'm going to let Ted win (as Bob predicted) and Barry played the decider (two-pointer) like a man possessed. >:(

Now for the truth. I put my own tips up straightaway when I start off the thread for the new week, and don't really bother to look at anyone else's predictions until Warrior works the points out after the matches have been played! ;D