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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 17:19:13 GMT
Here we go with the last one............
Plough Lower Beeding v Mill House Z
Not much to play here for either team........should be a relaxed atmosphere, 3-2 to Zeds.
Horns Lodge v Eight Bells
I'll take the Lodge to manage a 3-2 home win here.
Plough Plumpton v St Francis
Plough already confirmed as runners-up and the Saints are fighting for Premier survival: I can only see the visitors coming away with 2pts max.
Laughing Fish v Watermill B
The Fish usually finish strongly and this will be no exception. 5-0 home win.
Hurst A v Brewers Bravos
Bravos to cause a shock here with a 3-2 away win.
Brewers Arms v Hurst B
4-1 home win, with advance apologies to Ian.
Watermill A v United Services Club
Another 4-1 home win.
Greyhound v Woolpack
Greyhound will be going all out in this one, and should maintain their status by three lengths (4-1).
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Post by iang on May 18, 2011 17:49:21 GMT
Here we go with the last one............ Plough Lower Beeding v Mill House Z Not much to play here for either team........should be a relaxed atmosphere, 3-2 to Zeds.Horns Lodge v Eight Bells I'll take the Lodge to manage a 3-2 home win here.Plough Plumpton v St Francis Plough already confirmed as runners-up and the Saints are fighting for Premier survival: I can only see the visitors coming away with 2pts max.Laughing Fish v Watermill B The Fish usually finish strongly and this will be no exception. 5-0 home win.Hurst A v Brewers Bravos Bravos to cause a shock here with a 3-2 away win.Brewers Arms v Hurst B
4-1 home win, with advance apologies to Ian.Watermill A v United Services Club Another 4-1 home win. Greyhound v Woolpack Greyhound will be going all out in this one, and should maintain their status by three lengths (4-1).No need to appologise Tommo The Brewers Arms are a worthy Div 1 Winners, we have not had the best of luck in the last few matches but will aim to go out on a high it's our turn as they stuffed us 5-0 on our table I don't think we can repay the compliment but watch this space!!!!! |
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Post by iang on May 18, 2011 17:51:40 GMT
It's now a fight for 3rd place the Bravos are 2 points in front of us.
Strange how the fixtures have worked out with both Hurst & Brewers teams clashing swords ;D
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Post by Sparky on May 18, 2011 17:55:03 GMT
Didn't think to warn the punters earlier but neither Sparky nor Terry-the-Gas are playing tonight, but Ray and Tim will be there.
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Post by iang on May 18, 2011 22:36:21 GMT
You can stop watching now, the brewers arms did the double on us.
Not a good end to the season
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Post by BB Warrior on May 19, 2011 11:02:56 GMT
This has been a record season for the Premiership, with Champions Mill House 'Z' smashing the previous best points tally of 118 set by the Greyhound two years ago. Record points tally in Div One remains at 149, set by the Watermill A in the same season. This begs the question - is this a record for all Sussex leagues ? Even in Horsham, which in its heyday had 48 teams, the best is a mere 115.5pts. The Zeds also matched their own record of eleven 5-0 victories - which they set in the 1996/97 season. Firstly, many congratulations to the Zeds on retaining their title..... worthy champions and a fantastic record this season. 8-) Allowing for the fact that the Watermill A record of 149 points included the 0.5 "bonus points" for a Division 1 player beating a Premier player, the A Teams points tally would have been 125.5, so the Zeds total of 141 is a record in Mid-Sussex..... and, probably the highest number of points scored during the season in a League throughout Sussex as well. ;D However..... to decide if it is a "record", you have to compare apples with apples..... ::) With 30 matches played in the season, Mid-Sussex teams play more matches than any other League and also allocate points (1 point per leg plus a bonus point for match win) in different ways to nearly every other League, where often either a total of 2 points are awarded for the match win (regardless of whether the score is 3-2 or 5-0) or just a point for each leg won with no bonus points for matches won. Therefore, the fairest way to judge it would be if the points were allocated in the same way as Mid-Sussex and then an average for points per game calculated with the team with the highest average being top........ figures for this season shown below:-
Champions / Leaders League Points Matches Average per MaNotes
1 Atlas A Worthing 86 18 4.78
2 Sharky's Bar Eastbourne 71 15 4.73 (latest available, not final)
3 Mill House Z Mid-Sussex 141 30 4.70
4 Roffey Club Y Horsham 101.5 22 4.61
5 Stout House Z Billingshurst 97.5 22 4.43
6 Romans B Brighton 70 16 4.38
7 Locomotive West Sussex 104 20 4.33 (6 games played per match)
8 United Services Lewes 56 13 4.31 (latest available, not final)
? Littlehampton 0 0 #DIV/0! (no record available)
NOTE - Adjustment made to Locomotive's record to allow for the fact that West Sussex play 6 games each match.The Atlas A's position as top of this table is a fair reflection of the strength of their team, given that the won Worthing League, which is probably the hardest League to win in Sussex at the moment. It's a shame that the Mid-Sussex Champions do not enter the Watney Mann Cup, it would be interesting to see how well they would do in that competition which involves many of the top teams in Sussex...... however, after a 30 match season, the Zeds probably deserve their summer break! ;D I will be proposing at the Sussex AGM that the "Champions of Champions" Competition is revitalised, to include a team competition (in addition to the Watney Mann Cup), so perhaps if that goes ahead we may yet see the mighty Zeds return to the main Sussex Arena..... :-/ ;) |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 12:49:56 GMT
It's a fair point about 'comparing apples with apples', Warrior, but I must object to being placed below Sharky's Bar ;D ;D ;D Remember it is difficult to maintain the momentum in a gruelling 30-game season, so if you want to take it on 15 games rather than 30, this was the Zeds' record at the half-way stage: Mill House Z 15 15 0 60 15 75 That you intend to put forward a recommendation that the Sussex Champion-of-Champions competitions are reinstated is welcome news indeed. 8-) As these days we don't get a separate Sussex Finals Night, wouldn't it be great to see one again involving finalists for the Champions of each of the Sussex Leagues.............Team; Mens Singles; Ladies Singles (old format) PLUS (revolutionary idea) Open Doubles and Mixed Doubles!!! :D |
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Post by specialone on May 20, 2011 13:06:49 GMT
Only me
Excuse the grumpiness, been ill in bedders since Sunday night, temp of 104 in the old money.
Are we heading towards getting the clocks to play longer and the season to last longer so top players and teams can glory in setting and beating 'big numbers'? Really miss the T shirts that would show the players personal history of big breaks and scores. You know who you are, best kept in the past methinks.
I see that despite the fact that we dropped the charity we played at least 8 more league games than anyone else. My great thanks to my team who kept going to the end. I think only once did we play with 4. Great set of blokes, all of which think the season is far too long. Time for me to don the tin hat and back to bedders.
If I can find out what it is I have got, and get healthy again, I am looking forward to a summer of FFG, family , fishing, and golf.
Shaun of the sick.
ps thought Adam was a bit lucky to beat me on Sunday
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2011 13:44:41 GMT
Greetings to Shaun of the Sick from tommo (still scarfed up and trying to hold a near-fatal dose of Man 'Flu at bay). Think that over the years we must have punished our bodies to such an extent that our immune systems are no longer able to cope with a spot of hayfever! ;) ;D ;D
Obviously this thread attracted you like a magnet as it deals with team stats rather than high scores. Rest assured that the Mill House clock will remain at 16 minutes - much as the temptation was to increase our home season by 20%.
Hope you're better by Wednesday and able to come to finals night.
tommo
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Post by BB Warrior on May 20, 2011 14:02:00 GMT
Great idea from ex-prez.... ;D Are we heading towards getting the clocks to play longer and the season to last longer so top players and teams can glory in setting and beating 'big numbers'? Really miss the T shirts that would show the players personal history of big breaks and scores. You know who you are, best kept in the past methinks. Sussex County already offer the 20k break tee-shirts to reward the players that achieve that great milestone..... I never knew that Mid-Sussex offered something similar but as ex-prez is a previous winner of both the high break and high score trophies he must be right, although perhaps it was a long time ago in the past and before my days. :P ;D ;D ;D Well done to all of the players in the League who enjoy playing this great game week in and week out, regardless of whether they hit "big numbers" or not, the playing standard continues to improve every season and the future of the League looks good....... long may it continue. 8-) PS. XXL size for my tee-shirt please..... ;D |
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Post by Ros on May 20, 2011 14:57:27 GMT
It's a fair point about 'comparing apples with apples', Warrior, but I must object to being placed below Sharky's Bar ;D ;D ;D Remember it is difficult to maintain the momentum in a gruelling 30-game season, so if you want to take it on 15 games rather than 30, this was the Zeds' record at the half-way stage: Mill House Z 15 15 0 60 15 75 That doesn't seem fair either - that 15 includes 8 home games. At the half way stage you hadn't played on some of the more challenging tables in the league either! That you intend to put forward a recommendation that the Sussex Champion-of-Champions competitions are reinstated is welcome news indeed. 8-) As these days we don't get a separate Sussex Finals Night, wouldn't it be great to see one again involving finalists for the Champions of each of the Sussex Leagues.............Team; Mens Singles; Ladies Singles (old format) PLUS (revolutionary idea) Open Doubles and Mixed Doubles!!! :D That's a great idea tommo, but I think it would need a whole weekend to get all that lot in. How about if the leagues took it in turns to organise this? We have plenty of suitable venues around the county, like the Roffey Club, Hurst Club, Tarring Club etc What is Ladies Singles old format? |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2011 15:22:14 GMT
That doesn't seem fair either - that 15 includes 8 home games. At the half way stage you hadn't played on some of the more challenging tables in the league either! My clumsy attempt to compare apples with apples. A futile effort anyway, as there are only five venues in the Eastbourne league, so the teams must be going round and playing the some old faces four times! Think I'll just stick to comparing fruit! ::) ;D ;D That's a great idea tommo, but I think it would need a whole weekend to get all that lot in. How about if the leagues took it in turns to organise this? We have plenty of suitable venues around the county, like the Roffey Club, Hurst Club, Tarring Club etc What is Ladies Singles old format? I wasn't suggesting all candidates playing off together as that would take a whole weekend. Just a series of qualifiers, plus a traditional Finals Night to find the supreme champions, like Sussex used to hold. There is an old thread somewhere where this was being discussed a couple of years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2011 15:32:18 GMT
Despite the inevitable protests, I'd like to congratulate Shaun of the Sick on being one of the 'big hitters' in the Mid Sussex Premier League this season:
6 Shaun Morris St Francis Played 27 Won 22 Lost 5 Average 4229 Highest Score 7790
Finished above three of the mighty Zeds in the table - no mean feat from the Special One! ;D
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Post by specialone on May 20, 2011 18:45:29 GMT
Only me
Thank you Tommo for highlighting my personal effort in trying to keep St Francis, my team of the last 31 years, from relegation, especially as I went four weeks without being able to pot two balls in a row. My thanks to Spud, who started my comeback by looking like beating me up on my own table.
Thank you BB Warrior for reminding people of my high score and high break, so proud of them as both were achieved against the 'Mighty Zeds'. The break was against the player who held the highest break at the time, which appealed to my vindictive sense of humour. Won't reveal his identity, and I was unable to pass his 'highest score' in the game, which he hung on to. OMG have I given the game away?
Did not know Champion of Champions had gone. Last Sussex thingy I played in was one of those, just before Chloe came along. Really enjoyed it until Gareth Lloyd took it upon himself to poo on my day, he did it the previous time I had played in the event. Played in a Worthing pub by a train station, bear okay and cheap, steak and chips for £2.50, happy days!
Adding kevlar vest to the tin hat and taking max dosses of paracetomol and ibroprofen every 4 hours. Think I am invunerable.
Shaun of the Sick
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2011 19:14:31 GMT
Yes, Shaun, so kind of you to remind me - again! ::) ;D ;D
The Windmill was quite a happy hunting ground for you boys - no low beams to knock yourself out on - and I remember Joppers going off with about 8k against me a couple of years later, leaving me with a ball right in front of a peg, and most of the rest of the game spent with neither of us making a serious attempt to clear it. He rounded on me angrily afterwards, but he was the one who put it there, and I had absolutely nothing to gain out of the game unless he moved it for me!
The Worthing pub you mentioned was the Downview, by the way, and I agree it used to be a good venue for the Interleague.
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Post by BB Warrior on May 20, 2011 20:31:30 GMT
It's always nice to remember achievements in anything, even bar billiards...... ;D . Thank you BB Warrior for reminding people of my high score and high break, so proud of them as both were achieved against the 'Mighty Zeds'. The break was against the player who held the highest break at the time, which appealed to my vindictive sense of humour. Won't reveal his identity, and I was unable to pass his 'highest score' in the game, which he hung on to. OMG have I given the game away? ..... hope it made you feel a bit better.... ;) Your record in Mid-Sussex makes good reading Spesh...... ;D Most wins in the history of the League ..... 218 (out of 287) at an average of 3,608. :D (including this season) Premier Player of the Year - Winner 2000, Runner-Up 2003 First Div Player of the Year - Winner 1992, 1997, 1999 Mens Singles - Winner 1998, 1999, 2002 Mixed Doubles - Winner 1998, Runner-Up 1991, 1997 Open Doubles - Winner 1983, 1999, 2001, Runner-Up 2004 Highest Away Break - Winner 1995 (9,310) Highest Away Score - Winner 1993 (11,300) There can't be many players in Mid-Sussex with a better record than that...... 8-) winner of all the main titles, apart from the recently introduced Masters..... :o ..... in fact, looking at that list, people might start to forget that you are a "social" player and mistake you for a "big hitter".....! :o ;D ;D Maybe our League Statto (Tommo) should put together a list of who has won the most trophies in the League and put it in the Hall of Fame section of the Mid-Sussex Website....... 8-) (my money would be on Baby Guinness...... ;)) |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2011 21:00:20 GMT
There can't be many players in Mid-Sussex with a better record than that...... 8-) winner of all the main titles, apart from the recently introduced Masters..... :o ..... in fact, looking at that list, people might start to forget that you are a "social" player and mistake you for a "big hitter".....! :o ;D ;D Maybe our League Statto (Tommo) should put together a list of who has won the most trophies in the League and put it in the Hall of Fame section of the Mid-Sussex Website....... 8-) (my money would be on Baby Guinness...... ;)) Thanks for the thought of an extra task, Warrior, but there are limits to how far down the statistical path I'm willing to go! I think our Hall of Fame is pretty comprehensive as it stands, and I see no point in gilding the lily! What I have started to do though is put a figure in brackets to show how many times an Individual has won a major competition. Some months ago I ran into an old player called Mark Spicer, who spent a big chunk of the evening bending my ear about how no-one can match his record in the Mid Sussex Doubles (7 times winner with 3 different partners) - and probably never will !!!! Must say that Shaun's record over the years is peerless, though. ;) |
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Post by specialone on May 21, 2011 11:08:30 GMT
Hi Tommo and Dave
Saints never regarded the Windmill as a happy hunting ground. Longest journey, worst beer, most garuanteed thrashing, and a car park plagued by car crime. The bright spot was that the most brutal beating always seemed to go to Foggers. The sight of him leaning on the a cue and the two ends of his tash getting lower to the floor perked us up no end. Strangely, the season he cried off, with a blatently phoney excuse, was the only time we beat you I believe.
I am a pretty competative person, bar bills table, golf course, and years ago cricket field. I played two years of indoor cricket, which I found to be fast, furious, and at times really nasty, loved it! At times I could not recognise myself. However I try to keep the competativeness to table time only, hope I have succeeded.
Heed pounding, need drugs.
SOTS
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2011 12:25:10 GMT
Am enjoying this banter and hope that others join in.
We could even start a separate thread going for 'fondest memories of past venues'.
In defence of the Windmill, horrible pub, yes (I was once in there for a drink with my son and daughter-in-law and we suddenly found ourselves in the midst of a table-and-chair fight which had spilled out from the Pool bar. :o :o Was like Saturday nights at the Brewery Shades all over again.
It was however the only bar billiards pub serving a wide catchment area, and for a long time supported four teams - two in Mid Sussex and two in Horsham, and many of the players who played then are still playing now, albeit from alternative venues.
The best thing that can be said for it was that the table was looked after with tender loving care, first by Neville Edwards and then (after he passed on) by Tony Francis (also sadly deceased).
There is now a street just round the corner named after these two guys (= Francis Edwards Way). ;D
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Post by specialone on May 21, 2011 12:26:13 GMT
Think the drugs are starting to work, hope so.
The two points I really wanted to make are points I have made before, so I will try not to labour them.
Not everyone wants a season that starts in one summer and continues to the next. Nick and Adam playing in shorts fine, me? just not nice or right.
Most sports, with the exception of golf, are best played by people of similar ability. Golf is non interactive and has an effective handicapping system.
I know I am heading for div 1, and it could be said I am looking for a soft season, but that is just not me. In fact I think I finished higher up in this season's ( all plays all) rankings, than lasts (1st div only).
One last thought. A few years ago I was quite rightly lambasted for running up a big score against a young lady. My only real excuse was that having consumed a gallon of Harveys, I had no clue as to what I was doing. On Sunday, after Adam had made me have it the nasty way, he explained to me he was acting under instructions. I looked over at Nikki, who was smiling happily. I hope there is always humour in the game. Oh and of course that dish that can be eaten hot or cold, but is always a dish best served cold.
Afternoon nap
SOTS
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2011 12:44:00 GMT
Hi Shaun, Pleased to hear that you are feeling better. Think the drugs are starting to work, hope so. Not everyone wants a season that starts in one summer and continues to the next. Do we take it that you won't be entering a team in Henry's Summer League, then? :o :o :o I hope there is always humour in the game. Oh and of course that dish that can be eaten hot or cold, but is always a dish best served cold. Well, they say that what goes around comes around. I've been 'humiliated' a few times over the years, but have always tried to take something positive out of it, and next time around tried 110% in an attempt to get my own back. No to handicapping, b.t.w. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 20:44:42 GMT
Your record in Mid-Sussex makes good reading Spesh...... ;D Most wins in the history of the League ..... 218 (out of 287) at an average of 3,608. :D (including this season) etc etc Having just updated Page 29 of the website, I notice he's one of only two 'Mid Sussex Millionaires' - the other one being AF/W. ;D www.mid-sussexbbl.co.uk/page29.html(scroll down half a page) |
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