Four Pin Tournament??

[Carls421]

Hi,

I'm not too sure if this is the correct or appropriate thread to reply to, but I have an enquiry regarding the October date in your calendar "Alternative Rules" on the 14th.

As a bit of background. I am part of and currently running the 4-Pin Bar Billiards League in Norwich which is going from strength to strength. Having only 4 venues with 6 teams, between the league games I run a Singles Tournament which this year attracted 41 players, with more wanting to join, but unfortunately after the tournament started.

My enquiry is, as part of your alternative rules competition, is there scope to include a 4-Pin competition? I know there are 3 4-Pin leagues that we know of in the country and various non-league tables in varying pubs around the country.
I know there is alot of interest coming just from here in Norwich to play at a National level, there are a few hidden gems here just waiting to be thrust out there to be noticed!  :D

With us and the other leagues which may also be interested. It would be fantastic for us to attend in a large competition, and as alot of us have probably not seen the 3-Pin game in action, and vice versa. I believe this would be great for promotion for both 3, 4-Pin and the alternative game itself.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Kind Regards

Carl

[Chris_Sav]

I've started a separate thread on this as it needs to be discussed in its own right, I have also PM'd Dave Alder to advise of its existence.

Interesting idea though would there be a problem over table size? AFAIAA most four pin tables are of the narrow variety. If AEBBA tried running a comp, it would have to be on standard tables.

Sav

[David.G]

Oh thats it sav, put a spanner in the works. Just as I was thinking of a few ideas. I didnt realise that the tables were different. Do you know the actual sizes. Perhaps we could have two comps. One on thier tables and one on ours, could be interesting

[Carls421]

Mar 22, 2012 20:14:43 GMT Chris_Sav said:

I've started a separate thread on this as it needs to be discussed in its own right, I have also PM'd Dave Alder to advise of its existence.

Interesting idea though would there be a problem over table size? AFAIAA most four pin tables are of the narrow variety. If AEBBA tried running a comp, it would have to be on standard tables.

Sav

Hi Sav,

Thanks for moving this thread to the appropriate part.

To be absolutely honest, here in Norwich we play on 4-Pin and 3-Pin tables, we just use them as 4-Pin ones. Obviously I can't vouch for the other 4-Pin leagues but we'd be happy to play on either table.

Carl

Great to receive a positive message from the AEBBA Sec and will be interested to learn of your ideas.  Could provide the 'shot in the arm' that our game needs.

Thumbs up from me, I would be supportive of an AEBBA-run 4-Pin competition.

Is there a way we can open some communication lines with Sudbury and Wellingborough whom it would most definitely benefit ?    

[BFG]

Steve Anscombe and I always planned a 4 pin v 3 pin game with his Northants team until he joined up with the fox.....having trialled 4 pin on our table I think we would put our 4 pin friends at a big disadvantage

[Carls421]

Mar 23, 2012 0:08:06 GMT BFG said:

Steve Anscombe and I always planned a 4 pin v 3 pin game with his Northants team until he joined up with the fox.....having trialled 4 pin on our table I think we would put our 4 pin friends at a big disadvantage

Sounds like a challenge to me!  ;) Bring it on!  :D

[Chris_Sav]

Mar 22, 2012 20:55:41 GMT David.G said:

I didnt realise that the tables were different. Do you know the actual sizes.

For those not familiar with 'Narrow' tables, the difference is not major as the basic hole layout is the same.

Standard tables are 31½" wide playing surface, narrow are 28" wide.

On narrow tables the four high scoring holes are about three or four inches nearer the back cushion.

The four high scoring holes on a narrow table are in diamond formation, on standard the fifties are slightly nearer the 200 than the 100.

So basically a narrow table is just a standard table with the holes squashed a little towards the back cushion.

The narrow tables use the French eight hole Billard Russe slates that the AEBBA game was derived from with the 200 hole added. I have handled a French slate where the 200 hole was marked but not cut (saved me measuring it!)

I think this is a splendid idea!

Sav

[Carls421]

I have photos of 2 of our tables just to show you which ones we have.

Heres the Kings Head Table. Shorter and slightly Wider than The Cottage Table

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[Carls421]

The Cottage Table. Longer and narrower than the Kings Head and the Golden Star but very similar to the White Lion.

As you can see by the photos, the tables are of different sizes, so we can play on either if need be.

As far as measurements are concerned, which points on the tables are the measurements taken from?

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