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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 14:11:14 GMT
With 20 entries from Sussex and 10 from Oxon, there don't appear to be too many from the other counties, and a surprisingly poor yield from the county running it (it has to be said). :-/ Four from Northants is not too bad. (Lorin, Simon, Stephen & Damo) We are slowly improving our attendance at opens and plan to continue this trend. Remember, it's only the last two or three years that there has been any representation at Opens since the days of Fazza. We are trying, please bear with us.
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 8, 2013 14:25:57 GMT
With 20 entries from Sussex and 10 from Oxon, there don't appear to be too many from the other counties, and a surprisingly poor yield from the county running it (it has to be said). :-/ Four from Northants is not too bad. (Lorin, Simon, Stephen & Damo) We are slowly improving our attendance at opens and plan to continue this trend. Remember, it's only the last two or three years that there has been any representation at Opens since the days of Fazza. We are trying, please bear with us. I'm sure that Tommo's comment was meant to try to encourage additional people to enter, not as a criticism of those that already have.... ::) .... although maybe he should enter himself to give Surrey a representative as there don't seem to be any of those yet! :o :'(
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 14:56:40 GMT
I'm sure that Tommo's comment was meant to try to encourage additional people to enter, not as a criticism of those that already have.... ::) .... although maybe he should enter himself to give Surrey a representative as there don't seem to be any of those yet! :o :'( Quite so, Northants definitely pulling their weight in supporting Opens, great to see. 8-) My main point was that in normal circumstances the host county would provide at least as many entrants as Sussex's 20 and then you would have the full lineup. I can only spot three four. .... although maybe he should enter himself to give Surrey a representative as there don't seem to be any of those yet! :o :'( Despite my initial excitement and intention to take part, unfortunately it clashes with the Horsham Masters - which I should qualify for barring doing a 'Devon Loch'. And I have to put supporting my local league before any quest for personal glory ! :-*
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 8, 2013 15:56:27 GMT
Despite my initial excitement and intention to take part, unfortunately it clashes with the Horsham Masters - which I should qualify for barring doing a 'Devon Loch'. And I have to put supporting my local league before any quest for personal glory ! :-* There are likely to be several other players (Gareth Lloyd, Jim Greensted, Rick Dewdney, Peter Edwards, Rob Hall, Dick Dewdney) who all may have entered the Off-the-Spot but will now have to choose between playing in that competition or the Horsham Masters..... :-/ It's a great shame that Horsham have chosen that date to play the Masters, especially as the Off-the-Spot date has been confirmed since July 2012..... :P
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 16:56:54 GMT
It's a great shame that Horsham have chosen that date to play the Masters, especially as the Off-the-Spot date has been confirmed since July 2012..... :P A great shame as you say, Dave, and I would have said something myself months ago but chose not to as I realise what a difficult job the committee have in arranging dates. The situation here is that Horsham's original dates were 28th May for the Finals Night and 26th for the Masters. The Finals Night later had to be brought forward a week for whatever reason and the Masters with it as it is part of the blanket hire. :'(
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Post by Sparky on Apr 8, 2013 17:26:45 GMT
Despite my initial excitement and intention to take part, unfortunately it clashes with the Horsham Masters - which I should qualify for barring doing a 'Devon Loch'. And I have to put supporting my local league before any quest for personal glory ! :-* There are likely to be several other players (Gareth Lloyd, Jim Greensted, Rick Dewdney, Peter Edwards, Rob Hall, Dick Dewdney) who all may have entered the Off-the-Spot but will now have to choose between playing in that competition or the Horsham Masters..... :-/ It's a great shame that Horsham have chosen that date to play the Masters, especially as the Off-the-Spot date has been confirmed since July 2012..... :P Unfortunately Horsham have a number of things to consider when choosing their dates. The tables are used for both the Masters and Finals Night to reduce costs, this requires that the tables are available from Tarrats, and that the Roffey Club is available for both nights. Furthermore we try to avoid having our Finals Night on consecutive nights with either Billingshurst or Mid-Sussex (difficult to arrange and has not worked again this year either). Fortunately there has been few national events staged during this period, associated with the end of many local league seasons and the Competitions that necessarily come with that, for us to throw into the already difficult decision making process, and unfortunately we could not avoid this 'New' National Competition. I hope this throws a better light on the decision made by the Horsham Committee.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 17:43:47 GMT
So - back on topic, and not wishing for Horsham to cop the blame for the comparative lack of entries to this exciting new competition..............
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Post by curtd on Apr 8, 2013 17:59:25 GMT
I'm here Clive 😄
I have already contacted Pete and informed him I will be submitting entry form on Sunday. (4 players)😊
Curt
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Post by bigjimsilverfox on Apr 8, 2013 18:34:20 GMT
Despite my initial excitement and intention to take part, unfortunately it clashes with the Horsham Masters - which I should qualify for barring doing a 'Devon Loch'. And I have to put supporting my local league before any quest for personal glory ! :-* There are likely to be several other players (Gareth Lloyd, Jim Greensted, Rick Dewdney, Peter Edwards, Rob Hall, Dick Dewdney) who all may have entered the Off-the-Spot but will now have to choose between playing in that competition or the Horsham Masters..... :-/ It's a great shame that Horsham have chosen that date to play the Masters, especially as the Off-the-Spot date has been confirmed since July 2012..... :P Yes Dave I would have gone but as Masters Champ I think its only right that I defend my title ;) I spoke to Gareth who didn`t seem to be that interested in either :o Maybe next year it can be organised not to clash and Horsham can enter a few notables
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Post by iang on Apr 8, 2013 20:14:35 GMT
It's a great shame that Horsham have chosen that date to play the Masters, especially as the Off-the-Spot date has been confirmed since July 2012..... :P A great shame as you say, Dave, and I would have said something myself months ago but chose not to as I realise what a difficult job the committee have in arranging dates. The situation here is that Horsham's original dates were 28th May for the Finals Night and 26th for the Masters. The Finals Night later had to be brought forward a week for whatever reason and the Masters with it as it is part of the blanket hire. :'( I'm sorry Clive but you are incorrect on this point The dates Horsham Set was always the 19th & 21st of May. There was a booking in the diary for the venue for the Saturday night so we were offered the following week 26th 28th. But after speaking to the Steward it was confirmed we could stick to the Original dates. I fully agree with Sparky's comments regarding how we set our dates & I don't intend to go back over them again. In Reply to BBW's comments we Billingshurst & Mid Sussex have always held our end of Season events at the same time for Many Many years as it is a progression from the end of our playing Season. It is a shame that it clashes and it will have to be down to each player to make the choice of which event they want to play in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 22:08:25 GMT
I'm sorry Clive but you are incorrect on this point The dates Horsham Set was always the 19th & 21st of May. Mods - Can we keep this thread purely for Pete Sainsbury's National Off-the-spot competition ? Internal Horsham wranglings look so out of place on here, and paint us in a bad light.The Sussex entry I would have thought was more than adequate, and if the competition ends up having to be cancelled, the blame should be sought elsewhere.
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Post by milhouse on Apr 9, 2013 0:02:40 GMT
I'm sorry Clive but you are incorrect on this point The dates Horsham Set was always the 19th & 21st of May. Mods - Can we keep this thread purely for Pete Sainsbury's National Off-the-spot competition ? Internal Horsham wranglings look so out of place on here, and paint us in a bad light.The Sussex entry I would have thought was more than adequate, and if the competition ends up having to be cancelled, the blame should be sought elsewhere. Not quite sure why you are asking the mods to look at this ? If Horsham have arranged for their Masters/Finals night to be played on the same date and that potentially takes away players from the open, then surely the lack of numbers could be put down to that? (If Horsham had their date first, then please disregard this!) On another point, another reason why it may be short of entries is down to being close to the Guernsey/Sussex opens and as it is in the far reaches of the Bar Billiard world, it may be down to the cost of entering? The same can be said of the Kent Open, it is generally down on numbers compared to other opens. Just a thought...?
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Post by barbelman on Apr 9, 2013 6:35:27 GMT
I'm sorry Clive but you are incorrect on this point The dates Horsham Set was always the 19th & 21st of May. Mods - Can we keep this thread purely for Pete Sainsbury's National Off-the-spot competition ? Internal Horsham wranglings look so out of place on here, and paint us in a bad light.The Sussex entry I would have thought was more than adequate, and if the competition ends up having to be cancelled, the blame should be sought elsewhere. It does not make Horsham look like the bad guys Clive. It is simply ONE of the reasons why the entry is lower than anticipated and the more National comps there are, the more likely it is to happen. Far from making them look bad, I must admit that I admire Horsham's commitment to their own competition, which at the end of the day, are the grass-roots of our game. (and the discussion was very civilised! ;)) BTW I'm not going because I don't particularily like playing the standard game OTS - another factor! ;D cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 8:03:32 GMT
There are bound to be clashes around this time of year April/May, when most leagues are drawing to their seasons' end and holding semi-finals and Finals Nights. Two years ago I had to forgo the Horsham Masters because I had already booked up for Guernsey and was disinclined to cancel my holiday. Ian made a good point here:
This year for me it is simply the case of the shoe being on the other foot, and if we really want a reason for the apparent lack of enthusiasm we need look no further than.................West Ham ! ;D
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 9, 2013 8:12:30 GMT
On another point, another reason why it may be short of entries is down to being close to the Guernsey/Sussex opens and as it is in the far reaches of the Bar Billiard world, it may be down to the cost of entering? The same can be said of the Kent Open, it is generally down on numbers compared to other opens. Just a thought...? I had to chuckle when I read that comment as Kent is one of the local competitions for many of the people that take part in the Opens and it is actually Oxford (and Bucks) in the "far reaches of the Bar Billiard world" as far as we are concerned, but that doesn't stop many people from entering those competitions. ::) ;D I do agree that unfortunately any new Tournament is always likely to either clash / be near to other traditional dates for other events or find itself taking place during "holiday periods" which many people keep clear for family etc.... my earlier posts were not meant to be critical of Horsham, merely an observation that it seems a shame that several players will now have to choose which event they want to play in when the date for the new Tournament has been known for so long. :'(
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Post by PaulS on Apr 10, 2013 15:31:21 GMT
[/quote] This year for me it is simply the case of the shoe being on the other foot, and if we really want a reason for the apparent lack of enthusiasm we need look no further than.................West Ham ! ;D[/quote]
Definitely not a lack of enthusiasm on my part and I will still be adding my support by helping to set up the tables. :(
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 15:52:40 GMT
Definitely not a lack of enthusiasm on my part and I will still be adding my support by helping to set up the tables. :( No offence intended, Paul, and sure you would have been flying the Berks flag as usual with Dave Alder. I know that some of the Tunny Wells boys support the Hammers and just think it a bit unfortunate that the "host county's" prospective lineup is being decimated accordingly. Hopefully there will be some last-minute entries taken on Sunday at the Surrey Open - including some from Surrey! 8-)
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Post by "Silent" on Apr 11, 2013 14:58:31 GMT
Please can I enter
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 11, 2013 15:21:57 GMT
I have just emailed you an entry form Matthew.... :-*
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Post by Coleman Jnr on Apr 14, 2013 6:55:01 GMT
How many entries are now required? I will have another ask around Northants.
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 15, 2013 14:48:04 GMT
How many entries are now required? I will have another ask around Northants. I think that a few more people did enter at the weekend which hopefully means that the event will go ahead.... ??? Perhaps someone could give us an update as to the entries that have been received and, if more are needed, perhaps we can all give it one final push to try to get the numbers up? ;)
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Post by Pete S on Apr 15, 2013 19:45:39 GMT
All
We did take more entries yesterday and I will provide an updated list shortly. We will do the draw on the 1st May. Any more entries would be welcolm.
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Post by Pete S on Apr 23, 2013 6:23:14 GMT
The list of entries has been updated.
We have 58, the draw will be done either next Wednesday 1st May or Saturday 4th May.
If anyone can get a few more it would be ideal for scheduling purposes if we had 64.
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Post by jordans on Apr 25, 2013 22:41:15 GMT
Hi Pete,
Can you please add:
Me Ernie Cliff Slade
I will send the entry form tomorrow with a cheque. Trying my hardest to get a couple more from Wycombe aswell (will let you know as soon as I can).
Thanks, Dawn.
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Post by Pete S on Apr 26, 2013 11:00:20 GMT
Thank you Dawn
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Post by enzo on Apr 27, 2013 8:36:08 GMT
Hi Pete,
Don't forget Pete Hickman wanted to enter! I'll give you the wonga on Sunday? :)
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 28, 2013 13:31:09 GMT
Oh dear, another event that now clashes with the date of this Tournament.... :'( This years masters will be held on Sunday 19th May at The Brewers Arms ... it looks as if a few people now have to choose between playing in any one of 3 competitions now.... ::) :-X
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Apr 29, 2013 8:12:11 GMT
Oh dear, another event that now clashes with the date of this Tournament.... :'( This years masters will be held on Sunday 19th May at The Brewers Arms ... it looks as if a few people now have to choose between playing in any one of 3 competitions now.... ::) :-X Mid Sussex Masters is now 12th May.
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 29, 2013 9:48:54 GMT
Oh dear, another event that now clashes with the date of this Tournament.... :'( ... it looks as if a few people now have to choose between playing in any one of 3 competitions now.... ::) :-X Mid Sussex Masters is now 12th May. Yes.... but only because the original date clashed with the Horsham Masters.... nothing to do with this competition. :-X
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2013 10:20:11 GMT
Hi Pete,
Please accept my apologies but I am no longer able to make this event.
Would you please be able to swap out my place and accept the entry (if that isn't too much of a double entendre) of Ian Jellis (Northants).
Many thanks,
Lorin
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