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Post by Chris_Sav on Sept 21, 2012 9:20:27 GMT
These tables will be FAST to begin with at least. The break spots may require a little tuning so be patient at the Intercounies next Sunday. They are all as identical as I could get them so it is down to how they are set up, there is no such thing as a bad table amongst them but they can be badly set up. Sav Last three tables loaded on the van for Sunday, I did not get a chance to look at 45B repairs to the corner-post. Please be patient on Sunday, I will have more time to level and check them, but this will be the first use of the complete set since recovering. Sav. |
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Post by bigtj on Sept 21, 2012 18:51:56 GMT
Look forward to seeing and trying them, we have to accept first time all used and will not have had time to settle after work carried out, also the known problem spots at the Post Office.
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Post by Chris_Sav on Mar 11, 2013 14:46:24 GMT
All of the tables in use at Bournemouth now have number plates.
My thanks, as AEBBA Treasurer, to Tony Willis for supplying the numbering plates complete with screws that will enable us to record and react to problems much more easily.
Sav
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Post by milko on Mar 11, 2013 15:18:20 GMT
All of the tables in use at Bournemouth now have number plates. My thanks, as AEBBA Treasurer, to Tony Willis for supplying the numbering plates complete with screws that will enable us to record and react to problems much more easily. Sav Now that all the tables have number plates at the front why was the AEBBA table 5 in the position where table 6 should be, not that I noticed it was No 5 but I did notice one or two others that were in the correct position ? |
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Post by Chris on Mar 11, 2013 16:03:06 GMT
The numbered plates Keith, are in relation to the table itself, not realated to its position in a tournament.
This therefore makes the table easily recognisable to Sav who can monitor if there is an issue with any one particular table. When talking about a table Sav or whomever needs to know its plate number not where it was according to numbers on the score boards.
The tables at Bournemouth were in no particular position, just placed where those people carrying them put them :-*
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Post by Chris_Sav on Mar 11, 2013 16:03:37 GMT
Tables arrived the day before the numbers arrived and were placed without having to crawl around underneath to see what the AEBBA numbers were, which is why we got number plates ;D
The tables will not always be in the same postion at Reading anyway as Dave rotates them
Sav
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 11, 2014 9:10:43 GMT
Eighteen months have passed since I set up this area on individual tables and only one addition has been made on any problems that now exist or have existed.
I know of comments on loose ball trays etc. but which tables? help me to help you please!
I am looking for faults, NOT the table was difficult maybe because it had settled or was poorly set up.
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 14, 2014 8:34:40 GMT
Tables collected from Tonbridge and a nice pleasant drive home in the new van! Got home at 2215hrs.
Inspected damage:
Two ball front trays disintegrating, this can only be caused by lifting the tables by the ball tray.
One broken height adjuster, this can only be caused by unscrewing the legs and allowing them to fall to the floor with a resulting crunch to the adjuster.
One thirty hole ring dislodged in the hole, this can only be caused by lifting the table by the thirty holes.
One table with wood split off the back of a rear leg socket, almost certainly caused by dragging the table away from the wall and not lifting it.
All avoidable damage in my view.
Hirers please make sure the tables are treated properly by your teams.
Sav. |
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 18, 2014 9:32:46 GMT
I am quite frankly mortified by the state of the tables two years after I spent so much time in getting them back into A1 condition.
For example table 5 which I am working on now.
Support struts for holding the table open missing the bolt from one side, highly dangerous! Where is the 2½ inch bolt?? dumped somewhere.
Table has been lifted by the ball tray and the tray disintegrated with the top of one side missing. Where is the missing piece of wood that I could have glued back on almost invisibly? dumped somewhere.
One of the my screws used to strengthen the ball tray fixing two years ago
Bent, testament to the abuse the table has received in lifting by the ball tray
Table 6 rear right leg body completely mullered.
A large slice of the outside of the back leg socket has been ripped off and the also damaged leg socket exposed.by dragging the table away from the wall or pivoting it with the leg screwed in. Where is the missing slice that I again could have almost invisibly glued back on? again dumped somewhere to hide the damage I guess. This one is probably a write-off for transport and competition use unless there are any joiners amongst us that can make and replace the corner of the table. I don't have the gear or expertise to do it.
Most of the easels are imitating a forest in my garage with clamps and reinforcements on them to try and over come the handling damage.
These are just examples.
I'm afraid there will not be a third summer where I spend weeks of my own time (at no cost to AEBBA) tackling preventable damage.
Sav.
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Post by daveuk1 on Jul 19, 2014 12:04:56 GMT
I do find it a concern that players/leagues/counties/associations pay out good money to hire out these tables and should expect to receive them in as near perfect condition as possible but there really doesn't seem to be any firm strategy for the maintenance, instead everyone just relies on some kind hearted person to carry out the repair of these tables off their own back.
Surely a small percentage of the hire charges should be set aside to pay for the upkeep of the tables? after all the table hire seems to be the main concerns for most people, as proven by the way people have dug deep to help purchase a van to allow the delivery of the tables, although it looks like this could be a waste of money if there are no tables to actually deliver.
I know the table hire costs need to be increased to try and generate some extra income to go towards the truck fund and paying off loans, but could not The AEBBA also introduce a small levy of say £10 per table hired with this being refundable if the tables are not damaged during erection and dismantling etc. We all know accidents do happen but Sav has made it clear that all the damage mentioned could of been avoided.
These are only my thoughts and I will start ducking now as the abuse start to fly.
Dave
SBBA
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Post by barbelman on Jul 21, 2014 6:44:23 GMT
That's bad news about the tables  The problem is, to the unknowing, the ball tray is the obvious place to lift them from! I have lost count of the times I have shouted at willing and well meaning helpers not to lift the tables by the ball tray as they just don't realise what a weak spot they are on a Jelks table! I am sure it is not beyond our collective wits to make the ball trays easily removable (they sort of are anyway) that just need two large bolts put in place as the tables are assembled and dissembled. I realise this would put extra on DA in making sure that the right trays are with the right tables..... Other than that put a bleedin' great notice on all the tables....  Whatever thank you for all your work Chris - I'm sure everyone appreciates the effort you put into it even if the complacent bu**ers would never tell you so! Tony |
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Post by bigtj on Jul 21, 2014 7:42:57 GMT
Thank you for all your hard work Chris, and can only imagine your frustration at having to do it. I am sure that this is all caused by people trying to be helpful but not thinking about how they do it.
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