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Post by davejones on Apr 20, 2008 17:10:50 GMT
To all inter league captains At a recent committee meeting the committee have decided that a cut off point of 11th/12th May2008 will be the cut off point for all inter league matches. Please ensure that all outstanding matches are played by these dates.
Thank you
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 21, 2008 12:55:51 GMT
Forgive me (as an Interleague beginner this season) but with so many games still outstanding in Division 3, can I ask what happens if the matches are not played by that date? ???
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Post by JB on Apr 21, 2008 13:41:51 GMT
As far as we know the 3 mid sussex games have all been re-arranged to play before this date. Any fixtures that are not fulfilled will be looked at by the committee who will take into account why the fixture was cancelled, who cancelled etc and will come to a decision.
When trophies have got to be bought and perpetuals engraved it is annoying that these get delayed and it makes more work for those involved and the chances of these trophies being presented at leagues presentation nights becomes unlikely.
There are so many late games and games conceded this year (not saying its anyones fault as i dont know all the circumstances) i shall be putting forward a proposal that all cancelled matches have to be played before the last series of games. Having to sort the sussex trophies its annoying that i cant get them to the engravers for at least another 3 weeks especially as i need some of them back in 4 weeks.
Rant Over
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Post by NigelS on Apr 21, 2008 13:44:59 GMT
Forgive me (as an Interleague beginner this season) but with so many games still outstanding in Division 3, can I ask what happens if the matches are not played by that date? ??? It depends on the circumstances Dave. It is usual in when matches are not played by the end of the season to void the match and award no points to either team. However if one of the teams feels that the game was not played due to no fault of their own (for instance if the opposition postponed the match in the first place and were unable to play the match at a later date) then they may feel a bit upset by this. I suggest that any aggrieved teams put something in writing to the Sussex commitee so that they have the facts why the match was no tplayed in the first place. The team that is not at fault will be awarded the match 7-0. It is up to captains to be proactive here to make sure they are not hard done by.
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Post by NigelS on Apr 21, 2008 13:53:47 GMT
Also to add to Jean's posting I was with her at the commitee meeting and was a bit shocked that all these games were left still unplayed, considering the last match was actually Sunday just gone. I think 1 team has only played half their games in the 7 month long season!?!?!
I don't envy her sorting out the trophies as with final positions now unconfirmed until next month, she has very little time to sort them out. So although Jean will do her best if trophies are not presented at league presentation nights this year do not be surprised...
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Post by racehorse on Apr 21, 2008 14:07:34 GMT
Hello All
Is there a list of outstanding matches available anywhere? Brighton C are playing Mid Sussex A on May 4th and i believe this will be our last game but maybe wrong.
Cheers Gary
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Post by little legs on Apr 21, 2008 14:16:41 GMT
Hi Gary
If you look on the Sussex website it lists the outstanding games.Looks like you have a couple to play,unless results have not reached the correct person.
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Post by racehorse on Apr 21, 2008 14:38:33 GMT
Cheers Kev
It says we have 2 matches outstanding against Redhill, i don't have the scores but we won one and lost one against Redhill. Will let Sheena know incase Dave hasn't recieved the results.
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Post by Dave Anscombe on Apr 21, 2008 15:17:31 GMT
Just to let you know that Worthing D have three outstanding games. Two have been arranged. One is for this coming Sunday (27th) against Mid Sussex A. This was caused by the light failure.
The other game is against Redhill B on the 18th May. They canceled their game at our place on the Friday before the due date.
The last one is against Mid Sussex B and I am waiting for Ian Griffen to confirm the 11th May as OK. They originally canceled due to the one-day comps and there was a mix up in a possible alternate date.
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Post by Lord Cheeky on Apr 21, 2008 15:21:16 GMT
Littlehampton vs Eastbourne Match is being played Tuesday 29th April
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 21, 2008 15:32:47 GMT
Having been involved with organising trophies (in a former life & different sport!) I would say that Jean's "rant" was very fair and fully justified....!! It does make her job (and the remainder of the Committee's) so much harder than it needs to be.
As far as I am aware, we (Mid-Sussex B) have 1 outstanding game to play (Worthing D, away) which hopefully has now been arranged for 11th May.
I'm pretty sure that Mid-Sussex A have arranged their outstanding matches as well, but I do wonder how the teams that still seem to have 4 or 5 games left to play will fit them in before the deadline....... and how the situation has been allowed to drag on this long?? :o ???
I do understand that sometimes a postponement has to happen for unexpected reasons, however is there not a rule in place that states that the game must be re-arranged within a given time period and played before the end of the Interleague season.
Presumably, if a game is conceeded by one team then the other side would be awarded a 7-0 victory? However, would the individual players (who were prepared & able to play) be awarded Ranking Points or would these be lost? ???
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Post by iang on Apr 21, 2008 17:07:10 GMT
Worthing D V Mid sussex B confirmed for 11th May
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Post by iang on Apr 21, 2008 17:13:52 GMT
Forgive me (as an Interleague beginner this season) but with so many games still outstanding in Division 3, can I ask what happens if the matches are not played by that date? ??? I suggest that any aggrieved teams put something in writing to the Sussex commitee so that they have the facts why the match was no tplayed in the first place. The team that is not at fault will be awarded the match 7-0. It is up to captains to be proactive here to make sure they are not hard done by. That can't be fair Nigel I agree that the match should be awarded to the innocent team but seeing as we normally end up with some teams level on points & resort to count back on legs won a team would benefit from this situation against teams that have made the effort & played all the fixtures but might have won 4-3 or 5-2 & could lose by a couple of legs. We need this clarified by the committee if this is the case or as said before the match is void & no points given to each team.
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Post by NigelS on Apr 21, 2008 17:15:13 GMT
Presumably, if a game is conceeded by one team then the other side would be awarded a 7-0 victory? However, would the individual players (who were prepared & able to play) be awarded Ranking Points or would these be lost? ??? In the past Dave, players have not been awarded points for a walkover in the Sussex Rankings. I am not sure about other league rankings but Brighton is the same. I agree it is slightly unfair to the players prepared to play and aiming to qualify for the Sussex Masters in particular. In the National Rankings we adopted the policy of awarding half the ranking points for any player awarded a walkover in an open. So he/she gets less than the full points had they had won the match but are not penalised in full by their opponent's failure to show. Obviously it is a little bit different in league games but the same approach could be taken. But before you ask me, it is Steve Mariner that does the Sussex rankings and so any decision on whether to award points would be his.
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Post by NigelS on Apr 21, 2008 17:21:33 GMT
That can't be fair Nigel I agree that the match should be awarded to the innocent team but seeing as we normally end up with some teams level on points & resort to count back on legs won a team would benefit from this situation against teams that have made the effort & played all the fixtures but might have won 4-3 or 5-2 & could lose by a couple of legs. We need this clarified by the committee if this is the case or as said before the match is void & no points given to each team. Ian The rules were looked at at our commitee meeting last Friday and it clearly states the match should be awarded 7-0 to the innocent team. I had initially suggested a compromise score could be awarded because we had a similar situation in Brighton a few years back and we awarded the remaining fixtures 3-2 wins after a team had dropped out. So we are bound by the rules here Ian, maybe it can be brought up for discussion next AGM, but I hope we don't end with this sort of problem again. I think the bottom line is that teams need to fulfill their fixtures to make the whole season worthwhile and prevent it from becoming a farce. It is selfish of teams not to play remaining fixtures when perhaps their chase for trophies are over and maybe have lost interest but for other teams every leg or win may still be important.
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Post by iang on Apr 21, 2008 17:30:16 GMT
Thank You Nigel. I have given my views like I said it would be tragic for I/L if a team were to win the title in this way by gaining from another team not playing instead of teams that have gone out & played lets hope this does not happen. In the meantime I will watch & wait & not waste time on what if's :-X :-X
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Post by BB Warrior on Apr 21, 2008 17:34:20 GMT
If the rules are there, then we should certainly stick to them this season to ensure that everybody is playing off a level surface.
Hopefully, all of the outstanding matches will be played in time (although I note that Worthing D are playing Redhill B on 18th May?) and the Committee will not need to award matches to any teams and all of the individual players will also receive their appropriate points in the correct way - on the table! ;)
Perhaps the Committee could discuss some of these situations next time they meet and see if they can think of any solutions...?
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Post by bigtj on Apr 21, 2008 18:28:49 GMT
I agree that being given matches is not ideal, but if teams let the opposition down with next to no notification then surely no blame can be attached to the innocent party. If you have turned up at a venue ready for a match, the landlady has gone to the trouble of providing catering, it is to me unexcusable to not at least try and turn out with those players that are available.
I for one would always rather play, for the reason that I enjoy the game and am very competitive, taking pleasure in doing my best to beat firstly the table and prehaps to take a scalp or two from those who are better players than myself.
Not sure if the fact that three teams were playing out of one venue had anything to do with cancellations, but surely a sitution such as this is only likely to lead to problems.
As Nigel says it is a seven month season and it does seem strange that we cannot get the number of matches due to be played done in that time. Surely there has to be hard and fast rules about the time scales re-arranged matches should be played. Not just left that should be done before the last weekend of the season. If teams loose interest once they have nothing to play for, it is a shame that they are firstly not competitive enough to want to do the best in their remaining games, and secondly thatthey do not have the respect for the other teams involved in those remaining matches.
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Post by iang on Apr 21, 2008 19:04:06 GMT
Does anyone know the result of Billingshurst V Worthing D 6th April as everone says it's been played the results aren't recorded & are showing as an outstanding match ????
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Post by davejones on Apr 21, 2008 19:29:56 GMT
Ian the outstanding result for Billingshurst v Worthing D was 4-3 to the home side. The reason the website was not updated was that one of the teams had failed to register the result card with me. I do need both captains to send me the result card to verify the scores.
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Post by iang on Apr 21, 2008 19:40:45 GMT
Thanks Dave.
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Post by JB on Apr 21, 2008 23:18:41 GMT
The trouble is the inter league season should now be over and final positions known. Games not played have affected teams this year but the rules were adhered to and so there can be no argument. It will be nice to see people at the agm as this situation has to be discussed and anyone with a point to make should attend. Also any proposals should be put in writing and sent to either myself or Nigel. I will be setting a date for the agm shortly (If Alan reads this could you give me a rough date as im not sure when it should be) It will be great to see lots of people there and hopefully we can get more members on the committee to share the workload. I personally will be putting forward proposals that no more thane 2 teams play from the same venue and also that all matches must be played before the last series of matches.
Regarding nthe Wothing D Redhill B match this must be completed before the 11th/12th May as stated by the committee. If this cant be arranged i will expect to hear from the teams concerned in writing the reasons for the cancellation so the committee can make a decision.
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Post by Dave Anscombe on Apr 22, 2008 8:46:18 GMT
Hi Jean, Do you want a direct sail mail letter or will a personal email do?
I am seeing Sheena and this Wednesday can I give it to her?
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Post by JB on Apr 22, 2008 10:03:31 GMT
Hi Dave An e-mail will be fine. Not sure when i will see Sheena
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Post by Baby Guinness on Apr 22, 2008 10:50:44 GMT
Mid-Sussex 'A' all 3 matches are arranged for the next 3 weeks 1 Match postponed due to power cut after match had started 2 Matches postponed due to competitions set on same day as interleague matches.
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Post by Alan Messer on Apr 22, 2008 18:03:28 GMT
Last years AGM was the 21 August. the equivalent date this year would be the 19th August. The reason it has been held late in the year is so that the affiliated league committees have all held their AGMs amd the new seasons officers are in place and ready to respond to the new SCBBA season - but it really is up to you when you hold it as long as you hold it before the new wave of competitions is started.
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Post by Dave Anscombe on Apr 28, 2008 23:16:27 GMT
Mid Sussex A 4 - 3 Worthing D
The scores were as follows:
G. Sparksman 2720 - 1160 A. Iles L. Hall 4740 - 1170 D. Anscombe A. F.Wright 2120 - 4140 G. Iles K. Hall 8230 - 1200 A. Cleveland R. Hall 3630 - 5590 M. Senior R. Jeffery 1610 - 3330 A. Squires P. Edwards 4360 - 2900 H. Brewster
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Post by Dave Anscombe on Apr 28, 2008 23:19:35 GMT
Worthing D now only have two matches outstanding.
11th May - Home to Mid Sussex B 18th May - Home to Redhill B (Depending on confirmation by the Sussex Committee.)
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Post by iang on May 12, 2008 17:20:09 GMT
Worthing D 3 Mid Sussex B 4 Adam Squires 2430 Ros Appleby 1350 Helen Brewster 2650 John Lear 1660 Gary Iles 1670 Paul Jobbins 2610 Mark Senior 1250 Ian G 2560 Dave Anscombe 2620 BB Warrior 3880 B Thomas 2490 Darrell Skinner 5940 Barry Squires 4750 Chris Kirkham 2260
Thanks to my team for all your support throughout the year. Ian.
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Post by bobhall on May 16, 2008 11:53:00 GMT
Mid Sussex A 4 - 3 Worthing D The scores were as follows: G. Sparksman 2720 - 1160 A. Iles L. Hall 4740 - 1170 D. Anscombe A. F.Wright 2120 - 4140 G. Iles K. Hall 8230 - 1200 A. Cleveland R. Hall 3630 - 5590 M. Senior R. Jeffery 1610 - 3330 A. Squires P. Edwards 4360 - 2900 H. Brewster ladies and gentle men i would just like to say it was a pleasure playing for the mid sussex a team but could they please next time let me know that im plauing and that i lost aswell as my name is r hall and i think my father took my place and he is p hall
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