JERSEY v ENGLAND Result

[DA-DM]

hope i have started this in the right place.
I just got in from work but here is what I have been told so far......


Half way

Jersey 5 - 6 England

Keith Vibert 1410 - 7980* Dave Ingram   :-*

Bob King 2560* - 820 Gerry Fitzjohn

Fred Jeanne 6560 - 5750* Jim Greensted

Ashley Mallory 3580* - 2330 Lorin Clough

Steve Ahier 2230 - 2940* Kevin Tunstall

Graham Le Monnier 2830* - 3350 Chris Saville

Dennis Helleur 4670 - *6970 Nigel Senior

Nigel Ryall 12670* - 0 Paul Sainsbury (Nigel table playout)

Harry Barbet 3750 - *8350 Simon Coleman

James Jeanne 2730* - 1780 Geoff Jukes

Sean Le Beauvant 2790 - *6470 Pete Sainsbury

Reserve match
Dave Gallichan 9400* - 960 Stephen Coleman


I've amalgamated three threads into this one!

[Chris]

Really well done to all on winning the 2013 event ;D

[DA-DM]

2nd Series

Jersey 9 - 13 England

Keith 4780* - 2330 Dave :-*

Bob 5270 - *1670 Gerry

Fred 10800* - 280 Jim

Ashley 840 - *6710 Lorin

Steve 3580* - 7770 Kevin

Graham 100 - *8690 Chris

Dennis 1140* - 4770 Nigel

Nigel 5870 - *4240 Paul

Harry 4820* - 230 Simon (last ball 100 for aggregate win)

James 3580 - *5630 Geoff

Sean 1450* - 100 Pete

reserve match

Dave 5850 - *1330 Stephen

Final Score = Jersey 14 - 19 England.

;D :-*

[bigtj]

Well done England on your win,

[Coleman Jnr]

Firstly a BIG well done to England on retaining the trophy this year! A very close game in the end, with it coming down to the last 3 games, so nobody can say bar Billiards isn't exciting! A great effort was put in by all.

Just really want to congratulate Simon and Lorin on their debut win for the England team. Both taking a 2-1 win and rightfully proving they deserved to be their and wear the shirt!  You have done Northants proud, and we hope to see you both and more northants players knocking on the England door in the future!

This was originally in the Northants thread, hence the slight biased report, but all 11 players not only played their own legs but where supporting each other through every game so well done!!!

[Sir Chancelot]

Congratulations to England on their fine win.
Same selected team to play Guernsey in Sussex then ? :-X

[milko]

Wow!! What a fantastic result for the England team. Congratulations to every one of them...Superb 8-)


milko

[Sparky]

Congratulations to the England Team on a fine win.
Well done all of you :)

Well done to Eng-er-land, heroes all ! :D

With all those newbies I secretly thought that you would be on to a whipping - but you proved me WRONG. ;D ;D ;D

Huge selection problem now for the next International to be held on home soil.......
[edit - comment withdrawn in response to Curt's post]

[curtd]

Sorry I don't get it. Why a huge selection problem ????

[Stiggy]

Well done to all of the England team on a very good win. Wish I was was there as it is always a very close and exciting match to play in :)

May I add my congratulations and heartfelt thanks.
It was a privilege to play as part of the team and highly rewarding to be able to contribute points.
There was a remarkable team spirit and every player gave enthusiastic support to each of his team mates.
Thanks also are due to the team from Jersey for welcoming and hosting us so well, to the real leaders in our team Chris S, Paul S and of course Captain Kevin.

Finally a heartfelt thanks to those involved in the decision to invite me to play. It was an huge privilege and was a thoroughly enjoyable experience that I will not forget.

Lorin

[triplex]

What a fantastic weekend, being picked for this match has been my biggest achievement in billiards. Everyone was made to feel they were all equal and fully deserved to be in the team. Very proud to wear the shirt and be part of the England win. Still full of the buzz ;D
Just glad we kept off the drink ::).

[BB Warrior]

Feb 3, 2013 18:38:36 GMT @reformedcharacter said:

May I add my congratulations and heartfelt thanks.
It was a privilege to play as part of the team and highly rewarding to be able to contribute points.
There was a remarkable team spirit and every player gave enthusiastic support to each of his team mates.
Thanks also are due to the team from Jersey for welcoming and hosting us so well, to the real leaders in our team Chris S, Paul S and of course Captain Kevin.

Finally a heartfelt thanks to those involved in the decision to invite me to play. It was an huge privilege and was a thoroughly enjoyable experience that I will not forget.

Lorin

I would agree entirely with Lorin here.... it was certainly a tremendous weekend and great to come home as part of the winning team and my thanks go to the Jersey Team and the venue who made us all feel very welcome. 8-)

The match itself went down to the last 3 legs and at about the half-way stage of those games Jersey were looking as if they were going to make a big come back at the end to make it a grandstand finish.... but, as is often proved in this game, the situation can change very quickly and the last 3 England players managed to pick up 4 of the last 6 points that were available to seal the win. ;D

I think that this now makes the scores between Jersey and England all square at 8-8 for the games played in Jersey and that it is also the largest winning margin by the England Team since the format was changed to the current system. 8-)

My thanks go to all of my team mates over there for their excellent company over the whole weekend.... their fantastic support of all of the players during the games.... and the very enjoyable celebrations that went on (for a long time!) after the match had ended.... the Team spirit was superb throughout and it was a pleasure and a privilege to play in the team with you.  Definitely a weekend that I will long remember. ;D

[Colemanator]

Feb 3, 2013 20:07:12 GMT triplex said:

What a fantastic weekend, being picked for this match has been my biggest achievement in billiards. Everyone was made to feel they were all equal and fully deserved to be in the team. Very proud to wear the shirt and be part of the England win. Still full of the buzz ;D
Just glad we kept off the drink ::).

Two of our team at the Fox Inn Thrapston played in this match( Si and Lorin), that is quite something ;D
To think that only a couple of years ago, we were pretty much done, as we had got to the point where we needed two players, and new players are not easy to come by.Thankfully we have survived, and this is the icing on the cake for me, and also Thrapston town ;D I know people in this 2 horse town that will love this, I've known Simon all his life, and when we got him into our then Pub team in Barton Seagrave, who would've thought that 20 years or so later, he would be involved in an England game, and Lorin is a class player quite capable of anything 8-), The two Jims, and Barry, would've loved thisI'm sure, I don't know how I'm going too follow this from now on. I must win tommorow night of course for a start. Well done the Fox, and England 8-)    

Feb 3, 2013 23:14:03 GMT Colemanator said:

Two of our team at the Fox Inn Thrapston played in this match( Si and Lorin), that is quite something ;D
To think that only a couple of years ago, we were pretty much done 

.....not to mention Coleman III who got to play the England reserve game.....

International life still exists in Northants after Fazza and Biggsy ! 8-)

[Chris_Sav]

As has been pointed out earlier, the two outstanding things from the weekend were the scale of  the win and the brilliant team spirit that prevailed the entire weekend. It has certainly been the most enjoyable international for me personally, both in the mutual support during practice games, the camaraderie during the match and the social side. I looked around the room long after the Jersey team had left and almost the entire England team were still sat around the table.

Congratulations to all the team, whether you won or lost, that is irrelevant. It was the team that pulled through. I thought we were in deep doo-doo after the first series in the second half when the pendulum swung Jersey’s way with a big 7 – 2 series result to give them the lead, but the pendulum swung firmly back in the remaining three series.

Thanks to the Jersey guys for organising another brilliant evening. My personal thanks to BBW for his company and chauffeuring me.

[enzo]

Congrats all, sounds like a cracking weekend. Nice to see some well deserved debuts in the team and winning!

[The Chubbster™]

Well done guys, wish I was there to see it, but sounds like a fantastic weekend. Someone will have to catch me up on all the fun and games in Oxford :)

[milko]

Jersey 14 England 19

Keith 1 v Dave 2
1410  -  7980
4780  -  2330
6190  -  10310

Bob 3 v Gerry 0
2560  -  820
5270  -  1670
7830  -  2490

Fred 3 v Jim 0
6560    -  5750
10800  -  280
17360  -  6030

Ashley 1 v Lorin 2
3580  -  2330
840    -  6710  
4420  -  9040

Steve 0 v Kevin 3
2230  -  2940
3580  -  7770  
5810  -  10710

Graham 0 v Chris 3
2830  -  3350
100    -  8690  
2930  -  12040

Dennis 0 v Nigel 3
4670  -  6970
1140  -  4770  
5810  -  11740

Nigel 3 v Paul 0
12670  -  0
5870    -  4240  
18540  -  4240

Harry 1 v Simon 2
3750  -  8350
4820  -  230  
8570  -  8580

James 1 v Geoff 2
2730  -  1780
3580  -  5630  
6310  -  7410

Sean 1 v Pete 2
2790  -  6470
1450  -  100
4240  -  6570

Agg - 88010 - 89160

[BigPhilMac]

Hi all im a bit confused with the scoring system, how come 3 points are at stake in each game of two legs as opposed to 2 points for two legs?

[SirKT]

Feb 4, 2013 16:02:46 GMT BigPhilMac said:

Hi all im a bit confused with the scoring system, how come 3 points are at stake in each game of two legs as opposed to 2 points for two legs?

Yes it does seem confusing but simply it is 1 point per leg and 1 point for the total aggregate, hence a total of 33 points at stake ;)

[BigPhilMac]

Feb 4, 2013 16:12:49 GMT SirKT said:

Feb 4, 2013 16:02:46 GMT BigPhilMac said:

Hi all im a bit confused with the scoring system, how come 3 points are at stake in each game of two legs as opposed to 2 points for two legs?

Yes it does seem confusing but simply it is 1 point per leg and 1 point for the total aggregate, hence a total of 33 points at stake ;)

Ahh it does make sense now! Pardon my simpleness ;)

[SirKT]

Well, now for my turn ;D

Well done to my fantastic team, what a result :o

To fill in more details - There were 3 tables used. A & B were very tricky indeed, quite pacey, making the split difficult, which makes the result even more pleasing, seeing as we were splitting for England in all our practice games ::)
The best table (C), didn`t work in our favour really with two 3-0 defeats. Our three 3-0 wins and all but one of our 2-1`s came on the tricky tops and only Bob King from Jersey managed a win on them.

The team spirit and camaraderie throughout the weekend was superb, starting with the Chinese meal for 11, then the Doubles comp. down the Devonshire( which I believe Fitz & I won lol), right through to the end result late on saturday. I was proud to be involved with such a great bunch of guys.

The Hotel was superb, nothing like the Merton, but certainly all we needed for this weekend. The manageress and staff really looked after us and the breakfast (if you paid the extra £8) was fab, twice as much as you get at the airport for the same price.

We were worried at the turn of the year that the fixture might not even happen, but well done to the Jersey organisers for turning it round.

I did have some conversations with several Jersey players about the addition of Pairs to the evening in future. I got mostly positive answers, so it may happen yet. Watch this space ;)

As for the match against Guernsey at Home in June, I will need to speak to the selectors as to whether we stick to the original squad or play the team that travelled out to Jersey :-/ Personally, I have made my decision :)

Thanks again guys for a great weekend :P ;) ;D

[Chris_Sav]

I've moved all the premature wrangling on who should be picked for the next match away from the celebration on what we achieved in the 2013 Jersey international. That's what I want to read about here and remember one of the finest bar billiard weekends it has been my privilege to take part in.

The selection wrangling is to be found in the England team 2013 thread.

Sav

[Chris_Sav]

The Jersey view from the Jersey website, a more detailed version transposed here by the 'Toiler' ;D

Write up by Nigel Bisson

Agonisingly Close For Jersey As England Retain Trophy.

Jersey took on the All England Bar Billiards Association at the Sarum Hotel on Saturday evening in the Annual International challenge match that has now been going on for over thirty years. Once again it was a thrillingly close encounter and, once again, it was the England team who came out on top, this time by 19 points to 14.

Each of the games in the eleven a side match was played over two legs with one point on offer for each of the legs and another point on offer for the overall game win, making a total of 33 points available. The race to get to the unbeatable 17 point mark went right to the wire with all of the three games in the final series hanging in the balance. As it was, England took all three by 2 points to 1 and that 3 point swing proved to be the deciding factor.

In the early stages of the match Jersey took a 7 – 2 lead winning two of the first three games. Bob King took a maximum three pointer against Gerry Fitzjohn as did Jersey skipper Fred Jeanne against Jim Greensted. England’s Dave Ingram steadied the ship for them with a 2 – 1 win over Keith Vibert but at that stage the advantage was definitely with the home team.

England’s strength in depth soon showed itsel however,f as they took both of the next games with Lorin Clough easing home 2 –1 against Ashley Malorey and England captain, and reigning World Champion, triumphing 3 – 0 against a below par Steve Ahier in a match which, truthfully, saw neither player  play to their well proven abilities.

In the next three game series England enjoyed two 3 – 0 wins which, in retrospect, probably did the damage by effectively putting them in control of their own destiny. First Chris Saville toiled to a 3 – 0 win over Graeme Le Monnier, a scoreline that was matched by Nigel Senior who took advantage of a lost break by his opponent to dispose of Dennis Helleur.

Mind you, Jersey were still fighting and the performance of the night came from Nigel Ryall who knocked in leg totals of 12,670 and 5,870 to take three points from 2012 World Champion runner up Paul Sainsbury, making the scoreline 15 to 12 in England’s favour with the last three matches to come.

All three were highly competitive and could have gone either way. Harry Barbet took the second leg of his match against Simon Coleman but just failed to make up the first leg deficit as Coleman sunk the last ball to win on aggregate by 8,620 to 8,570. Geoff Jukes eased to a 1,000 point aggregate win over James Jeanne to give England another 2 – 1 win as did Peter Sainsbury against Sean Le Beuvant in the most dramatic fashion. Le Buevant went into the second leg trailing by about 3,500 points and knowing he had to put up a high opening break to guarantee the win. He had pretty much effortlessly strolled to a 7,000 plus break whin the cruellist of ‘lip outs’ put the object ball in pretty much the hardest spot on the table. The Cushion shot missed and the game and the match was over with a relieved England team claiming the spoils.

Note, Harry Barbet also unluckily lost a 2k break at the death which would have virtually guaranteed his win, wow did Simon keep his cool to score the necessary 190 points with the final four balls to win by 10.

[milko]

Feb 5, 2013 9:06:30 GMT Chris_Sav said:

The Jersey view from the Jersey website, a more detailed version transposed here by the 'Toiler' ;D

Write up by Nigel Bisson


Harry Barbet took the second leg of his match against Simon Coleman but just failed to make up the first leg deficit as Coleman sunk the last ball to win on aggregate by 8,620 to 8,570.

Note, Harry Barbet also unluckily lost a 2k break at the death which would have virtually guaranteed his win, wow did Simon keep his cool to score the necessary 190 points with the final four balls to win by 10.

I made it "10" as well, so who's correct ?

[Chris_Sav]

Simon won by ten, I was the scorer and praying that I had added the scores up correctly when the bar dropped!!

Sav

[triplex]

Feb 5, 2013 13:57:41 GMT Chris_Sav said:

Simon won by ten, I was the scorer and praying that I had added the scores up correctly when the bar dropped!!

Sav

And what a grand job you did too Sav ;D

[Coleman Jnr]

Especially as EVERYONE was wathching that game, all the England players cheered when it dropped, so Triplex took the 2-1, that would have been an awkward moment to say actually..... :)