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Post by triplex on Feb 17, 2015 17:11:36 GMT
As there is not much space left on the 2015 calender for an extra open, we would like to hear peoples thoughts on staging an open for 2016.
One of the main problems we have is when to hold it, as we don't want it to clash with other opens and leagues competitions.
If anyone has any suggestions on dates we welcome your views, also more important would people be willing to travel that bit further to support a Northants Open??
Will Oxford be reverting back to February next year??
We look forward to your views and any ideas which can help us to stage a successful Open.
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Post by Ian Gordon on Feb 17, 2015 21:38:08 GMT
I've spoken to Mark and he has confirmed that the Oxford open will revert back to February.
Ian
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Post by milhouse on Feb 18, 2015 12:54:16 GMT
The only space i can think in the calendar would be January but would this be too close to the New Year for people to play and to host ? Also, check what comps Sussex have as i think they may have competitions on then (and a lot of other weeks too!).
Only time i can think where there is a biggish gap and that is between Bournemouth & Surrey. I know there is the 4-Pin in between but not a lot of 3-pinners go to that. Maybe Bournemouth could be held on the first weekend in March to help with the gap?
Just some thoughts......
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Post by Colemanator on Feb 18, 2015 12:57:41 GMT
The only space i can think in the calendar would be January but would this be too close to the New Year for people to play and to host ? Also, check what comps Sussex have as i think they may have competitions on then (and a lot of other weeks too!). Only time i can think where there is a biggish gap and that is between Bournemouth & Surrey. I know there is the 4-Pin in between but not a lot of 3-pinners go to that. Maybe Bournemouth could be held on the first weekend in March to help with the gap? Just some thoughts...... There are plenty of 3 pinners at the EA open. If it was me I would hold it on the finals weekend, and revert the JW trophy back to the best northants player as before when the open ran years ago. |
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Post by milhouse on Feb 18, 2015 13:25:02 GMT
The only space i can think in the calendar would be January but would this be too close to the New Year for people to play and to host ? Also, check what comps Sussex have as i think they may have competitions on then (and a lot of other weeks too!). Only time i can think where there is a biggish gap and that is between Bournemouth & Surrey. I know there is the 4-Pin in between but not a lot of 3-pinners go to that. Maybe Bournemouth could be held on the first weekend in March to help with the gap? Just some thoughts...... There are plenty of 3 pinners at the EA open. If it was me I would hold it on the finals weekend, and revert the JW trophy back to the best northants player as before when the open ran years ago. Isn't that the same weekend as the Guernsey Open ? |
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Post by JB on Feb 18, 2015 13:35:16 GMT
Also, check what comps Sussex have as i think they may have competitions on then (and a lot of other weeks too!).
Sussex have the following: (all dates approx.)
2nd weekend in January (singles and doubles)
Last weekend Feb & 1st weekend in March (Sussex Inter-League) usually 2 weekends before Bournemouth
2nd weekend in June (Sussex Open)
Mark if its too many weeks let me know.
We changed to using aebba tables for our singles weekend and our inter league weekends. Amongst the reasons we did this was to help the AEBBA truck fund. If you want us to revert back to using our own supply let me know. Result - Approx £1000 less in AEBBA funds.
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Post by milhouse on Feb 18, 2015 13:58:54 GMT
Also, check what comps Sussex have as i think they may have competitions on then (and a lot of other weeks too!).
Sussex have the following: (all dates approx.)
2nd weekend in January (singles and doubles)
Last weekend Feb & 1st weekend in March (Sussex Inter-League) usually 2 weekends before Bournemouth
2nd weekend in June (Sussex Open)
Mark if its too many weeks let me know.
We changed to using aebba tables for our singles weekend and our inter league weekends. Amongst the reasons we did this was to help the AEBBA truck fund. If you want us to revert back to using our own supply let me know. Result - Approx £1000 less in AEBBA funds.
Was only trying to help the Northants Open team to decide when they could hold their open - won't bother helping next time! |
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Post by triplex on Feb 18, 2015 14:10:15 GMT
The only space i can think in the calendar would be January but would this be too close to the New Year for people to play and to host ? Also, check what comps Sussex have as i think they may have competitions on then (and a lot of other weeks too!). Only time i can think where there is a biggish gap and that is between Bournemouth & Surrey. I know there is the 4-Pin in between but not a lot of 3-pinners go to that. Maybe Bournemouth could be held on the first weekend in March to help with the gap? Just some thoughts...... I also thought of January but as you said probably not the best time to hold one. Good point about Bournemouth though, may be worth asking the question to the AEBBA, as what we don't want to do is to upset any other opens by having it to close. |
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Post by triplex on Feb 18, 2015 14:10:37 GMT
[/quote]Isn't that the same weekend as the Guernsey Open ?[/quote]
Yes it is.
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Post by triplex on Feb 18, 2015 14:19:01 GMT
Just by having a quick glance through this years calender, the only dates I can see what could be available would be 2 weeks either side of another open.
Is that too close??
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Post by JB on Feb 18, 2015 14:29:31 GMT
Looks like another misinterpretation of the written word.
Probably the exclamation mark that did it.
! - "The exclamation mark or exclamation point is a punctuation mark usually used after an interjection or exclamation to indicate strong feelings or high volume (shouting), and often marks the end of a sentence"
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Post by Chris on Feb 18, 2015 20:46:15 GMT
Instead of a Northants Open could you look at holding the AEBBA Off The Spot 2016 ?? which is meant to move round counties ? It is this year kindly hosted by Surrey in October ???
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Post by triplex on Feb 19, 2015 11:16:53 GMT
Instead of a Northants Open could you look at holding the AEBBA Off The Spot 2016 ?? which is meant to move round counties ? It is this year kindly hosted by Surrey in October ??? To be honest we would like to put on an open and put us back on the map, there is no reason why we can't hold both.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 12:04:42 GMT
Chris's idea is worth considering, start with a 'special' (ie the 4th National Off-The-Spot) and then retain the slot for ensuing years' Opens.
I'd love to come up, but I expect many others like me would not want to do two Northants in the same year.
You could bill it as "the re-launch event" and make it extra special by holding a separate Minnows tournament alongside the Plate as discussed on another thread.
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Post by BB Warrior on Feb 19, 2015 12:14:13 GMT
It would be great to see Northants hosting an Open and we would certainly attend as long as it didn't directly clash with any of the other competitions.  Looking at the table hire dates for this year I can see why it would not be easy to fit another competition in as those would probably not want a new competition possibly affecting their entries.... maybe late April (if Oxon reverting to February) or sometime in July or August look the best possibilities?  |
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Post by milko on Feb 19, 2015 13:10:14 GMT
The "Open" idea would be best as far as I'm concerned, especially if it could be held on a Saturday instead of a Sunday. With the extra travelling for players and if the organising committee can run it on either day then perhaps a poll could be done to see what day people prefer ? I will look forward to trying to retain my title in 2016 that I won when it was last held in 1998.. Milko  |
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Post by triplex on Feb 19, 2015 16:20:30 GMT
Chris's idea is worth considering, start with a 'special' (ie the 4th National Off-The-Spot) and then retain the slot for ensuing years' Opens. I'd love to come up, but I expect many others like me would not want to do two Northants in the same year. You could bill it as "the re-launch event" and make it extra special by holding a separate Minnows tournament alongside the Plate as discussed on another thread. I quite like the idea of the re-launch etc, but how would it work holding a minnows tournament alongside the plate?? With regards to traveling up to Northants, its a shame to hear that people may not want to travel up twice in a whole year. We as a County have supported ALL the opens in the last few years (albeit just a few of us). We have also represented the Inter Area and AEBBA with teams and individuals when possible. Correct me if I'm wrong but i believe that the Off the Spot competition numbers are decreasing, so surely holding it in Northants will not help, if traveling is a problem. I will certainly bring it to the attention of our committee but me personally if i had the choice of just one event it would be an open. |
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Post by triplex on Feb 19, 2015 16:23:33 GMT
It would be great to see Northants hosting an Open and we would certainly attend as long as it didn't directly clash with any of the other competitions. Looking at the table hire dates for this year I can see why it would not be easy to fit another competition in as those would probably not want a new competition possibly affecting their entries.... maybe late April (if Oxon reverting to February) or sometime in July or August look the best possibilities? We would certainly make sure that we would not clash with any other tournament, with it being an open or an in house tournament.  Would late April though be too close too Guernsey weekend?? |
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Post by triplex on Feb 19, 2015 16:27:09 GMT
The "Open" idea would be best as far as I'm concerned, especially if it could be held on a Saturday instead of a Sunday. With the extra travelling for players and if the organising committee can run it on either day then perhaps a poll could be done to see what day people prefer ? I will look forward to trying to retain my title in 2016 that I won when it was last held in 1998.. Milko I would certainly agree with you on that, if it was only possible to run 1 event i would certainly opt the Northants Open to restart. Has it really been 17 years since you last won, am sure the prize money won't be the same as then though as we were heavily sponsored back then.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 17:32:12 GMT
I quite like the idea of the re-launch etc, but how would it work holding a minnows tournament alongside the plate?? With regards to traveling up to Northants, its a shame to hear that people may not want to travel up twice in a whole year. Don't just take my word for it, I stopped entering Opens (last one was Surrey 2013) so if I entered yours as planned that would be one more than normal ! Suggest you canvass peoples opinions by organising a Poll on here. The Minnows idea is with one eye on the two newly-emerging Yorkshire leagues who at their current rate of progress may be ready to take part in a national competition by 2016. This has been done sometime before, a long time ago, by either Berkshire or Kent. I will have to look back through Fazza's old BBQs to find the details. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 19:09:52 GMT
The Minnows idea is with one eye on the two newly-emerging Yorkshire leagues who at their current rate of progress may be ready to take part in a national competition by 2016. This has been done sometime before, a long time ago, by either Berkshire or Kent. I will have to look back through Fazza's old BBQs to find the details.Hey Presto ! .......and...... |
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Post by BB Warrior on Feb 20, 2015 15:14:07 GMT
The "Open" idea would be best as far as I'm concerned, especially if it could be held on a Saturday instead of a Sunday. With the extra travelling for players and if the organising committee can run it on either day then perhaps a poll could be done to see what day people prefer ? I will look forward to trying to retain my title in 2016 that I won when it was last held in 1998.. Milko Have to agree with Keith here that a new Open would be better than simply hosting an existing event at a different venue.... I wonder if he still has the trophy from when it was last held? Since most Northants players were probably not involved the last time an Open was played there, my suggestion would be to keep it simple and just play it as a normal Open with Plate Competition, don't complicate things by trying to add any more events on the same day.  |
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Post by milko on Feb 20, 2015 16:06:27 GMT
Going by this post, Dave, Lorin must have it ? Yippee!!!!!!! I can at long last sleep easier at night because Lorin has just informed me that the cup has now been found. |
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Post by Colemanator on Feb 20, 2015 19:38:49 GMT
[quote author="BB Warrior" source="/post/139602/thread" timestamp="1424445247
Since most Northants players were probably not involved the last time an Open was played there, [/quote][/p]
Really, How would you know that?
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Post by BB Warrior on Feb 20, 2015 22:58:10 GMT
[quote author="BB Warrior" source="/post/139602/thread" timestamp="1424445247
Since most Northants players were probably not involved the last time an Open was played there,
Really, How would you know that? Oooh, sorry.... you must all be much older than you look then!
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Post by syorksbilliards on May 20, 2015 8:29:37 GMT
BUMP !
Northants now appear to be the 'pivot' round which the whole future of bar billiards could revolve.
You could stage a 3-tier Northants Open, and instead of a Plate have separate sections for:
- Major - for the established counties;
- Minnows - for (non-affiliated) York, Sheffield, Notts, Leics;
- 4-Pin - for Wellingborough, Gedney Hill(Lincs), Norwich, Sudbury - and any southern 'Mavericks'.
Put my name down as one to take part !
PS. Check out the Poll results from the first page......<br/>
I can only speak for my self but I think both Sheffield and York would be really intreterd in entering this open due to geography for our first comp I have copied tommos old post in this cause I think it's a great idea
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Post by triplex on Jul 22, 2015 14:44:15 GMT
Having looked at the table bookings for this year, the only possibility's I can see to hold an open in 2106 would be the following: -
1, 21st August 2016 so we have a 2 week gap between any other event.
2, Is Berkshire holding an open this year or next, or that may leave a gap in the calender for us to use.
I don't think i missed anything and checked out all others tournaments, so can everyone please leave some feedback on the above? Positive or Negative.
Thanks
Si
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Post by jordans on Jul 22, 2015 17:37:14 GMT
Hi Simon
Obviously having another Open in the same month might effect entries (people not wanting to travel to two/paying for two in one month) so would be worried it would effect our Open. The ideal would be September if Berkshire are not going to hold theirs anymore but if it has to be in August it's not a problem, just would concern us a bit :(
Dawn :)
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