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Post by syorksbilliards on Jun 2, 2016 21:47:25 GMT
Can any one help with how to change my coin mec from freeplay to paid in my jelks table I tried to look for the post tommo but could not find it
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 22:51:28 GMT
This was the thread to which I was referring, but it shows how to go to freeplay, not the other way around. So reverse the procedure if you can. If not as simple as that, you may have to be more specific, i.e. on whether or not any parts are missing ! barbilliards.proboards.com/thread/9086/coin-mech-question |
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jun 3, 2016 21:04:24 GMT
Tommo's article is principally about putting the clock onto freeplay, the reverse may not be so clearly defined.
What would help is a picture from above the top of the clock with the cover removed, I can advise with much more confidence then,
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Post by syorksbilliards on Jun 4, 2016 18:37:13 GMT
Hi sav thanks as requested   |
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jun 5, 2016 8:19:19 GMT
OK, Clock is an earlier French one. Almost all of the mechanism is present. It does not appear to be on freeplay at present and you should not be able to pull the handle more than about half an inch without the correct coin inserted. It looks like it is set up for a fairly large coin, possibly 50p as you say. The prongs Tommo refers to are present and in the correct orientation to prevent the bar from being pulled without a coin. The coin release piston and spring are also there. Often on 'freeplay' clocks both these are absent. What is missing is the non-return latch which should be hanging from the right of the pull handle bar. This engages the teeth below is and ensures the bar has to be pulled out fully before it can be released. You can see it clearly in the lower right of the picture below. This picture is a clock converted to the new £1 so it has an additional bar under the pull handle and no coin release piston/spring.  Can the handle be pulled on your clock without a coin inserted? |
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Post by syorksbilliards on Jun 6, 2016 7:33:04 GMT
Yea I can just pull the handle
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jun 6, 2016 8:10:08 GMT
Right we have a problem with the latch.  The latch should drop into the slot as the bar is pulled without a coin present and prevent the bar from being pulled further. I am guessing it doers not. Either the latch is jammed by the holding screws or it has been bent up to stop it engaging or there is something wedged under the front of the latch. It should sit as below, LOOSELY held by the two screws and springs, you should be able to lift it.  When the coin is present the latch rides up over the slot edge and you can pull the bar handle fully. On another subject you are likely to hit a problem with that latch if you convert the clock to the new £1 yourself. That latch may not be lifted by a smaller coin before it hits the back of the slot. The cutaway in the middle of the front would then need filling, possibly by braising a small piece of steel bar underneath it. |
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Post by syorksbilliards on Jun 6, 2016 20:13:43 GMT
Thanks sav I losend the two screws on the latch it now works any one now we're I can get more old 50ps from thanks for all ya help
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 20:48:43 GMT
Had a look on eBay but couldn't see a job lot going cheap: they're either rare single ones for £150 or not-so-rare for which you'd no doubt be caught up in a bidding auction, a lot of work for a small yield. Have you tried moving the floating screws forward so that it takes a smaller coin ?
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jun 6, 2016 22:01:26 GMT
Had a look on eBay but couldn't see a job lot going cheap: they're either rare single ones for £150 or not-so-rare for which you'd no doubt be caught up in a bidding auction, a lot of work for a small yield. Have you tried moving the floating screws forward so that it takes a smaller coin ? Would probably not work Clive for the reason stated earlier |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 22:51:02 GMT
(Enters Grasshopper disciple mode) This reason ? On another subject you are likely to hit a problem with that latch if you convert the clock to the new £1 yourself. That latch may not be lifted by a smaller coin before it hits the back of the slot. The cutaway in the middle of the front would then need filling, possibly by braising a small piece of steel bar underneath it. Missed that earlier..... |
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jun 7, 2016 7:56:48 GMT
Mechs converted to larger coins meant the latch was in the way as the coin dropped as far as I can see. They got around it by cutting the slot, you can see the difference against my unadulterated latch.
Have hit this problem myself in converting a 50p clock. Filing out the bar handle slot a bit, heating the latch and bend the prongs back a bit and filing a bit of the bottom of the prongs may also work. I've been lucky with several clocks and latches to mix and match. So many of the coin mechs have been adulterated to take various coin combinations.
I should probably copy this to the £1 conversion thread as well.
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