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Post by Chris on Aug 11, 2016 10:53:55 GMT
The Ladies County Championships will be played on Sunday 25th September at Didcot Conservative Club together with the AEBBA Men's Individual Competition.
Registration 11.00am for 11.30am start
Ladies County Teams
Berkshire
Bucks
Hampshire
Kent
Northants
Oxon A - confirmed
Oxon B - confirmed
Suffolk
Surrey
Sussex A - confirmed
Sussex B - confirmed
Men's Individual
Berkshire
Bucks - Matthew Jones
Hampshire - Barry Radford
Kent - Curt Driver
Northants - Simon Coleman
Oxon - Mark Trafford
Suffolk
Surrey - Dave Constable
Sussex - Gareth Lloyd
( Could any man entering the IKO please note that you would be advised to bring a checker with you as a) there can be back to back games and b) the ladies will be having to score their own County games - only advise not a you must )
Please could teams and players confirm their availability for Dave and Nigel asap. Thank you
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Post by curtd on Aug 11, 2016 11:13:48 GMT
There will be no Kent ladies team.
I will be representing Kent in the Individuals.
Curt
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Post by milhouse on Aug 11, 2016 13:39:46 GMT
Mark Trafford for the Oxon Men's individual
Pauline will confirm ladies team(s)
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Post by JB on Aug 11, 2016 14:04:35 GMT
Sussex A & B
Gareth Lloyd for men's individual
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 16:29:07 GMT
There will be no Northants Ladies team.
Simon Coleman will be our representative in the Individuals.
Good luck, Si.
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Post by jordans on Aug 11, 2016 20:38:03 GMT
Matthew Jones is the Bucks representative 😊
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Post by Martin Pellett on Aug 17, 2016 7:22:46 GMT
Surrey will be there and Dave Constable is our representative
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Post by David.G on Aug 26, 2016 20:56:14 GMT
Sorry, There is NO Berkshire Ladies this year
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Post by jordans on Sept 2, 2016 8:17:42 GMT
Sorry but there is no Bucks Ladies team. Myra and I have tried to get a combined team as per last years rule change, but due to holidays and injury we can't - sorry.
Dawn
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Post by Chris on Sept 3, 2016 19:18:34 GMT
Sorry, There is NO Berkshire Ladies this year This is the mens ?? is there mo Berkshire Mens ?? Chris |
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Post by Auntie Pauline on Sept 7, 2016 8:24:06 GMT
There will be an Oxon A & B ladies teams this year.
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Post by NigelS on Sept 19, 2016 10:19:02 GMT
I have been told that Surrey have pulled out leaving just 4 teams from 2 counties!!!!
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Post by "Silent" on Sept 19, 2016 10:51:18 GMT
I have been told that Surrey have pulled out leaving just 4 teams from 2 counties!!!! What an unsatisfactory situation  |
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Post by JB on Sept 19, 2016 12:03:01 GMT
Makes you wonder if it's worth the expense and time of a 2+ hour drive for a Sussex v Oxford game!
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Post by Baby Guinness on Sept 19, 2016 12:09:03 GMT
Makes you wonder if it's worth the expense and time of a 2+ hour drive for a Sussex v Oxford game! Took me 3 hours to get home last night |
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Sept 19, 2016 12:12:06 GMT
I have been told that Surrey have pulled out leaving just 4 teams from 2 counties!!!! What an unsatisfactory situation perhaps we need to make it a 5 player team in the future |
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Post by JB on Sept 19, 2016 12:18:02 GMT
The ladies are 5 player teams
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Post by gandalf the untidy on Sept 19, 2016 12:37:23 GMT
The ladies are 5 player teams oops |
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Post by BB Warrior on Sept 19, 2016 14:02:55 GMT
I have been told that Surrey have pulled out leaving just 4 teams from 2 counties!!!! What an unsatisfactory situation It is a shame, the simple fact is that Surrey only have 3 ladies that are willing to travel up to Oxford for the competition and that is not enough to make up a team. I think that part of the problem is that so many of the AEBBA Competitions are all clustered together within a 2 month period, while these were held at the Post Office Club in Reading it seemed that more people were prepared to travel there as it was more central for players from both the northern and southern counties.... Didcot adds at least another hour to the journey for those coming from the south as well as the additional cost for fuel. Sadly, I think that we will see a drop in numbers for nearly all of the remaining competitions at Didcot this year which must be a cause for concern to AEBBA and will also lead to the question as to whether they are viable to run either this year or in the future? Hopefully, a solution will be found that will meet with support from players all around the country to ensure the future of these competitions.... |
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Post by milhouse on Sept 19, 2016 15:49:07 GMT
What an unsatisfactory situation It is a shame, the simple fact is that Surrey only have 3 ladies that are willing to travel up to Oxford for the competition and that is not enough to make up a team. I think that part of the problem is that so many of the AEBBA Competitions are all clustered together within a 2 month period, while these were held at the Post Office Club in Reading it seemed that more people were prepared to travel there as it was more central for players from both the northern and southern counties.... Didcot adds at least another hour to the journey for those coming from the south as well as the additional cost for fuel. Sadly, I think that we will see a drop in numbers for nearly all of the remaining competitions at Didcot this year which must be a cause for concern to AEBBA and will also lead to the question as to whether they are viable to run either this year or in the future? Hopefully, a solution will be found that will meet with support from players all around the country to ensure the future of these competitions.... Maybe you should travel to the old PO club in Reading first as it is only 35mins from there to Didcot ....... |
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Post by "Silent" on Sept 19, 2016 16:31:14 GMT
It is a shame, the simple fact is that Surrey only have 3 ladies that are willing to travel up to Oxford for the competition and that is not enough to make up a team. I think that part of the problem is that so many of the AEBBA Competitions are all clustered together within a 2 month period, while these were held at the Post Office Club in Reading it seemed that more people were prepared to travel there as it was more central for players from both the northern and southern counties.... Didcot adds at least another hour to the journey for those coming from the south as well as the additional cost for fuel. Sadly, I think that we will see a drop in numbers for nearly all of the remaining competitions at Didcot this year which must be a cause for concern to AEBBA and will also lead to the question as to whether they are viable to run either this year or in the future? Hopefully, a solution will be found that will meet with support from players all around the country to ensure the future of these competitions.... Maybe you should travel to the old PO club in Reading first as it is only 35mins from there to Didcot ....... ......and the return journey Traff  |
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Post by JB on Sept 19, 2016 16:40:48 GMT
From Brighton approx 2 1/2 hours to didcot with a good run
Plus 30 mins for traffic
We allow 3 hours to get there. There is nearly always some kind of delay or speed restriction
Coming home on a Sunday traffic is always bad. Last time I drove to Didcot I left there at 7.30 pm and finally got home at midnight .
I can understand why this trip puts people off especially if you could end up doing it 3 times in a few weeks
Was looking forward to playing this year (usually on hols) but with only 2 counties I must admit it does make me think twice about if it's really worth all the travelling
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Post by BB Warrior on Sept 19, 2016 18:17:25 GMT
It is a shame, the simple fact is that Surrey only have 3 ladies that are willing to travel up to Oxford for the competition and that is not enough to make up a team. I think that part of the problem is that so many of the AEBBA Competitions are all clustered together within a 2 month period, while these were held at the Post Office Club in Reading it seemed that more people were prepared to travel there as it was more central for players from both the northern and southern counties.... Didcot adds at least another hour to the journey for those coming from the south as well as the additional cost for fuel. Sadly, I think that we will see a drop in numbers for nearly all of the remaining competitions at Didcot this year which must be a cause for concern to AEBBA and will also lead to the question as to whether they are viable to run either this year or in the future? Hopefully, a solution will be found that will meet with support from players all around the country to ensure the future of these competitions.... Maybe you should travel to the old PO club in Reading first as it is only 35mins from there to Didcot ....... Thank you for your correction Mark.... allow me to change my post to say "Didcot adds at least another hour and 10 minutes to the round journey for those coming from the south"....  I remember reading a post (last year I think) from Ros Appleby in which she said that she felt the southern counties were being "discriminated" against by the choice of Didcot as a venue for AEBBA events, although I would not agree with her choice of wording I can understand some of the sentiment behind it. Obviously, the simple logistics of the tables being stored at Didcot means that it makes sense to hold competitions there. However, as I stated in a previous post, the AEBBA Competitions are all bunched together in a short space of time and that means that potentially I could end up making the journey to Didcot (which is a round trip of about 230 miles from my house) 6 times in 10 weeks if Colleen & I enter all of the AEBBA national competitions that we could. So, that could be nearly 1,400 miles of driving and probably 30 hours spent in the car without even thinking about the fuel costs to do that.  I think it would be fair to say that I have supported these competitions most years in the past but, after the Ladies County Championships next weekend, it is unlikely that we will be at Didcot again until the Grand Prix event at the end of the season. Unfortunately, the timing for these competitions (in the weeks running up to the World Championships in Jersey) simply means that the finances can't be justified this year and I am sure that many other players in the southern counties will feel the same as I do about that. Is there a solution that could help? Yes, of course there are many possible solutions.... 1) Hold the competitions in nothern and southern regions on alternative years, or even hold some in one region and others in a different region in the same year. 2) Find a more "central" venue for all of the competitions. 3) Spread the competitions out more over the course of the year so they are not all clustered together. Would any of those options give us more entries.... Obviously, unless we tried it, we don't know.  But I think that it could make a difference.... |
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Post by milhouse on Sept 19, 2016 18:42:36 GMT
Just thinking about some things in response to Dave's post......
Where Dave mentions that there are too many comps in Didcot all at the same time and maybe spreading them put over the year? I believe this was tried 3/4 years ago and the numbers were lower?
So, how about a reschedule of the "Open calendar" ? Maybe swapping the Surrey Open date with the County Champs? Swap the Kent Open date with the Alt Rules date? This then means that although there will still be a fair few comps in a short space of time (something i don't think we can get away from) this way there would be comps split between "up north" and "down south" ?
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Post by BB Warrior on Sept 19, 2016 20:53:58 GMT
Just thinking about some things in response to Dave's post...... Where Dave mentions that there are too many comps in Didcot all at the same time and maybe spreading them put over the year? I believe this was tried 3/4 years ago and the numbers were lower? So, how about a reschedule of the "Open calendar" ? Maybe swapping the Surrey Open date with the County Champs? Swap the Kent Open date with the Alt Rules date? This then means that although there will still be a fair few comps in a short space of time (something i don't think we can get away from) this way there would be comps split between "up north" and "down south" ? I think that any suggestions deserve consideration, especially if the numbers are very low for the competitions this year. I am not sure about swapping the county championships though as these actually occupy 3 weekends (Division 1, Ladies and Division 2) and it would be hard ro swap those for just one Open Competition, so I would prefer to see these left together at some time, ideally on 3 consecutive weekends as there would be very few players coming along for more than one of those and that would immediately spread out some of the travelling if the other events were played at another time during the year. The Alternative Rules, Over 50's/60's/Under 25's and Special Ladies would appear to be the competitions most "at risk" this year based on the responses received so far for entries. |
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Post by JB on Sept 19, 2016 21:33:28 GMT
Sussex B have now had 3 dropouts. 2 have been replaced
The others on the reserve list are a no and 2 others not on the list have been asked and are a no
Not looking good
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 21:35:28 GMT
The Alternative Rules, Over 50's/60's/Under 25's and Special Ladies would appear to be the competitions most "at risk" this year based on the responses received so far for entries. True on the face of it... Looking back over the past 3 years: Alt.Rules: 28 entries in 2014, an amazing 39 in 2015 when theoretically in decline, but only 9 to date this year. Special Ladies: 8 in 2014, 8 in 2015 and only 5 so far for 2016. Early days yet, but I feel that at some stage AEBBA should make an advance declaration of what is an acceptable minimum entry for these competitions. It must be nearly reaching the mark for the Special Ladies and there may be a good case for replacing it with a National Ladies Doubles (of which there isn't one but there used to be) and I have my own idea as to what the true Alternative Rules should be !!! An example of how some AEBBA shuffling of events and venues has worked lies in the National Mixed Doubles (10 Pairs in the 2014 competition held at Didcot; 15 Pairs in 2015 when moved to Horley and 18 Pairs this year, again at Horley). This was made possible by moving the BIOC Ladies from Horley to the Hurstpierpoint Club in Sussex, who have been able to perpetuate a healthy entry of 20 ladies. A big well-done all round there! |
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Post by bobhall on Sept 19, 2016 22:12:02 GMT
The Alternative Rules, Over 50's/60's/Under 25's and Special Ladies would appear to be the competitions most "at risk" this year based on the responses received so far for entries. True on the face of it... Looking back over the past 3 years: Alt.Rules: 28 entries in 2014, an amazing 39 in 2015 when theoretically in decline, but only 9 to date this year. Special Ladies: 8 in 2014, 8 in 2015 and only 5 so far for 2016. Early days yet, but I feel that at some stage AEBBA should make an advance declaration of what is an acceptable minimum entry for these competitions. It must be nearly reaching the mark for the Special Ladies and there may be a good case for replacing it with a National Ladies Doubles (of which there isn't one but there used to be) and I have my own idea as to what the true Alternative Rules should be !!! I know last year was Keith's birthday bash so a lot of us was in Oxford celebrating that and then did the alternative the next day |
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Post by milko on Sept 20, 2016 3:40:26 GMT
True on the face of it... Looking back over the past 3 years: Alt.Rules: 28 entries in 2014, an amazing 39 in 2015 when theoretically in decline, but only 9 to date this year. Special Ladies: 8 in 2014, 8 in 2015 and only 5 so far for 2016. Early days yet, but I feel that at some stage AEBBA should make an advance declaration of what is an acceptable minimum entry for these competitions. It must be nearly reaching the mark for the Special Ladies and there may be a good case for replacing it with a National Ladies Doubles (of which there isn't one but there used to be) and I have my own idea as to what the true Alternative Rules should be !!! I know last year was Keith's birthday bash so a lot of us was in Oxford celebrating that and then did the alternative the next day Perhaps I'd better have another party, then ?  |
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Post by Chunky Monkeys other half on Sept 20, 2016 16:38:50 GMT
It is looking like there will be no Sussex B as I cannot get a fifth player, people working and holiday etc. cannot be helped.
As Jean has said a long way to go to play Oxford and a Sussex Team such a shame
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