AEBBA Team Championships 2018

Hi All,

Pease note that the entry for this event is now open and can be found on the Competition Entry page on the AEBBA Website or by following this link:

The deadline for team entries is Friday 31st August so do not delay - enter today!

To ensure that your team meets the eligibility criteria you may wish to refer to Rule 55 (see link here) which should clear everything up for you. As ever, any questions, just give me a shout.

Best wishes,

Lorin

[BigPhilMac]

Hi Lorin,

Just a query as regards to rule 55, notably about guest players. How regular is playing regularly? Is it based on a percentage of games played over the course of a season?

Phil

[barbelman]

I am assuming this competition is still for County Champions ONLY?  Lorin's post is inadvertently a little ambiguous...

[bobhall]

Aug 7, 2018 8:22:38 GMT barbelman said:

I am assuming this competition is still for County Champions ONLY?  Lorin's post is inadvertently a little ambiguous...

It does say at the top of the form that it is for the winners of competitions from counties so yes the county champions would be the teams in

Hi all,

Thanks for coming back on this, I am pleased that you are eager to get this right - as am I because we do want to get as many eligible teams as possible playing in this event.

You're all right - the rule itself is a little ambiguous (and deserving of some careful review) so I shall attempt to clarify with an example or two. This is intended to illustrate how the rule will be applied this year when ensuring teams and players meet the eligibility criteria.

Let's start from the beginning:

55 (a) All counties must hold a separate qualifying competition for teams that wish to enter this competition, the format for the qualifying event will be at the discretion of each individual county. If only one team within a county wish to enter, they will be declared the winners with no competition necessary.

This means that counties cannot simply create and nominate their 'all star' team to play in the event. The team must be real and exist as a group in one of their leagues/competitions. Now, there is some flexibility in this rule in that in creating a dedicated competition through which the winners are selected to represent in this event, there is scope to create a team made up of a range of players.


55 (b) A team may enter a guest player PROVIDED he only plays for the team he is guesting for (and plays regularly for a Team within ANY league in the same county). Players are not restricted
to the one county rule (Rule 47) in this competition provided the fulfil the other criteria.

Let's break this one down. Please imagine that in Kent there were 8 teams that entered the qualification competition for this event. Eventually, the winners were crowned and are therefore the representatives from Kent in the Grand Finals later this year. This team cannot then add a guest to their line-up who had previously played for another team in the same qualification competition. Further, they can select a guest who did not play for another team in the qualification stages so long as that player regularly plays for a league team in that county. For example - if that Kent team needed to add a guest (in order to secure a full side on the Grand Finals event day for example), they could only add, say Kevin Tunstall, so long as he regularly plays in a league team in Kent (and did not play in the qualification stages of this competition for anyone else). However, Kev does not play regularly for a Kent team and so would not meet the eligibility criteria.

For regularly - this needs to be quantified - but I would say at least 1/3 of league matches for that team. However - this potentially conflicts with 55(a) above and I will therefore look carefully (hence the early registration of teams) to ensure that the spirit of the event and our game is not being challenged.


55 (c) Players must be registered for the host venue and the same league at the start of the calendar year.

Self explanatory.


55 (d) Teams from the same league within a host venue may amalgamate.

In Northants, there are The Cock 'A', The Cock 'B' and The Cock 'C' teams in the league. They are entitled to amalgamate and select their best side to enter the Northants qualification event.


55 (e) No player may play for more than one team during the same year.

This follows from 55(b) above and underlines that players cannot represent more than one team in this event. For example, Gerry Fitzjohn cannot play in one team in Kent, fail to qualify, and so play for his Sussex league team and win their qualification event to represent Sussex in the Grand Finals - he would be ineligible.


55 (f) Registration forms must be supplied (normally by the County Secretary) to the AEBBA Secretary by the end of August of that year’s competition to allow scrutinizing. Failure to comply with this will result in automatic disqualification from the finals.

As per the registration on the AEBBA website. Whilst payment is not essential on registration - it is easy for you to do! But the purpose of having this process is to enable me to check eligibility and sort out any issues, should there be any, well in advance of the event.


55 (g) County champions will represent their counties at the Grand Finals.

This underlines that there will only be one team from each county at the Grand Finals event. So, in a county with multiple leagues - such as Sussex - each league may have their own qualification event where winners will compete against those from the other leagues within the county in order to determine the county representatives at the Grand Finals event.


Hope that all makes sense but happy to work through any further clarifications as required.

Lorin

[Pete S]

Lorin

We have a team from Kent, no guest player as all 6 players registered with team.

Pete

Aug 7, 2018 9:37:13 GMT Pete S said:

Lorin

We have a team from Kent, no guest player as all 6 players registered with team.

Pete

Great news! Thanks Pete. Please complete the form on the website when you get a chance.

Lorin

Aug 7, 2018 10:12:56 GMT @reformedcharacter said:

Aug 7, 2018 9:37:13 GMT Pete S said:

Lorin

We have a team from Kent, no guest player as all 6 players registered with team.

Pete

Great news! Thanks Pete. Please complete the form on the website when you get a chance.

Lorin

Payment received - many thanks.

Lorin

[bigtj]

There will be a team for Sussex the first leg of our Watney Mann Final which deems who shall represent Sussex is this Thursday.

Aug 8, 2018 6:16:30 GMT bigtj said:

There will be a team for Sussex the first leg of our Watney Mann Final which deems who shall represent Sussex is this Thursday.

Many thanks, Tony

[barbelman]

All posts about ranking points in AE team champs have been moved to a new thread in the same board.
Tony

Aug 8, 2018 8:36:30 GMT barbelman said:

All posts about ranking points in AE team champs have been moved to a new thread in the same board.
Tony

Many thanks, Tony

(that's an identical post to my previous one - how many times has that happened!!)

[bigtj]

2nd leg Sussex Watney Mann this Thursday 30th August, Henty 4-1 up against the Alexandra, below I list both teams :-

Henty

Kevin Tunstall ( Captain )
Stuart Mepham
Martin Cole
Gerry Fitzjohn
Terry Molloy
Ian Lelliott ( Guest )


Alexandra


Tony Jenner ( Captain )
Rick Cunningham
Steve Aylmore
Joe Oakley
Mal Spier
James Whittle
Pete Hickman ( Guest )

[Martin Pellett]

The Surrey entry will be the South Park Con Club A

Vernon Sparkes (Captain)
Dave Constable
John Miller
Laurie Roberts
Tracy Guy

[bigtj]

Henty now confirmed as representatives for Sussex good luck to them in the tournament

[mattjj]

The bucks entry will be the totteridge community Centre B

Matthew Jones (capt)
Stan Robak
Stan Orman
Dan Priest
Geoff Graham
Ernie Jordan

[milhouse]

Oxfordshire representative - Bletchington Social Club

Pete Soanes
Geoff Powell
Andy Skinner
Sid Ponting
Colin Winstone
Andy Wilson
Mark Trafford (Guest)