AEBBA Challenger Championship

[Chris_Sav]

Listed in the AEBBA events of this weekend, April 14th at the Nottingham Sherwood Hotel.

Any info on what this is please? must have slipped me by.

[barbelman]

Apr 11, 2019 9:21:03 GMT Chris_Sav said:

Listed in the AEBBA events of this weekend, April 14th at the Nottingham Sherwood Hotel.

Any info on what this is please? must have slipped me by.

It's a free singles competition for players outside the top 250 in the national rankings or new to the game, played in Nottingham and sponsored by the AEBBA.  Quite a good initiative I would have thought....

[Chris_Sav]

Had a look at the AEBBA site which seems to be upsetting Malwarebytes at present.

I see there are 18 entries but cannot see a start time and the schedule for Sunday is overdue.

I can find no mention or publicity of the excellent idea on this forum.

I put this line up on Timeline 3 of 3 in advance:

Quote:

Sat/Sun 13/14 Apr: Inaugural “AEBBA Challenger Event” @ Mercure Hotel Nottingham. (For novice players and players outside the Top 50 in the National Ranking table as at Dec 2018)

(I seem to recall I first found mention of it on the AEBBA Facebook)

Sounds like a positive move in the right direction.

[bigjimsilverfox]

Apr 11, 2019 10:56:13 GMT tommo III said:

I put this line up on Timeline 3 of 3 in advance:

Quote:

Sat/Sun 13/14 Apr: Inaugural “AEBBA Challenger Event” @ Mercure Hotel Nottingham. (For novice players and players outside the Top 50 in the National Ranking table as at Dec 2018)

(I seem to re
call I first found mention of it on the AEBBA Facebook)

Sounds like a positive move in the right direction.

Ranked at 51 Leon Beer, 52 Pauline Withey, 53 Ernie Jordon, 54 Marcus Chipman

[daveuk1]

I'm sure I read somewhere on face ache that is was for players ranked outside the top 250

It is o/s 250 now, but it wasn't before !!!

Have changed on Timeline 3 of 3.

Perhaps the organisers spotted exactly what SilverFox has pointed out !

Personally, I feel that 100 would be a better cut-off as it would allow the top 4-Pinners a crack. (At the moment, the likes of Taffy, Steve Hale and DaveUK are excluded). 

[curtd]

I’m going up to help with this comp over the weekend.

Not sure where the top 50 idea came from as it’s always been top 250 as far as I knew ? Could just be a typo ??

As it’s a new venture I’m sure we will come away with a few things we could do to make the day better for next time. Nothing is set in stone regarding entry or format so plenty of room to look at things if we need to .

Looking forward to a great day on Sunday

Curt

[bigtj]

Well done Curt a great idea to include those below the top 250 and can only be good for the game

[daveuk1]

Any news on how the weekend went? Its a shame we couldn't be there

[michaelshallcross]

I went down to Nottingham for the Challenger event yesterday, along with 4 other Yorkies. Pleased to say that 2 of our players competed the final, which was a brilliant match over 2 legs, 1 game a piece, but won in the end by Colin Chambers when Geraint Davies knocked over the black pin on one of the last shots, just when he looked to be clearing the table for victory. Dramatic stuff! There are some photos of the prize-giving on the @yorkbarbilliards facebook page.

It was a great day, played in a really friendly spirit, with evenly matched players from across Berkshire, Nottingham, and York. I think the general view amongst our players was that the ranking cut-off at 250 made it more appealing because it felt like everyone had a decent chance of progressing. I can't say for sure whether 250 was the ideal cut-off point though, because I'm not sure what the general standard is for players ranked between say 100 and 250. The highest break yesterday was around 3,000+, and Colin won with a total score of around 6,000+ over two legs, if that gives any indication of the skill level of the players who did enter.

Huge thanks to Curt, Joe, Lorin and the other guys who put the event on - they did a really fantastic job. I definitely hope this can grow from here and become an annual event.

[jelly]

Sounds like a great day and I'm delighted that the AEBBA are supporting this type of event to encourage new players to the game. Without being there, I reckon the bar is probably set fairly appropriately. It's not the people ranked 100-250 that this tournament needs to appeal to, and there are plenty of people in that bracket who are very good players, its new players that we need to encourage to keep this game alive. I hope this competition will go on to generate a lot of interest in the game, and hopefully also some of the players from this year will go on to enter the opens. Well done to Colin and Geraint for making the final and thanks to all those involved in organising the day.

[LEE_Cambs]

How far in advance are tournament dates set? This was an ideal event for some of the Cambs gents, myself included but we couldn't make the date. We'd like to pencil it in for next year so as soon as you know we'd appreciate knowing.

Thanks in advance.

[daveuk1]

Just wondered if there is any news on next years AEBBA Challenger Championships apart from the date? This may possibly be an event that might get some of our four pin players interested in having a bash at 3 pin. Suffolk BBA have their AGM in a couple of weeks and it would be great of we could give out some info, i.e approx start amd finish times, entry fee, any prize money of any and entry criteria as I know last year it was for players outside the top 250 and that ruled a number of our players out

Thanks in anticipation of a helpful reply

Dave

[LEE_Cambs]

Has a date been advertised?

Hi all,

The date has been available on the AEBBA website for a month or more in the ‘Forthcoming Events’ section.

The event will be in York in 2020 and venue details will be confirmed very soon.

I plan to run more than just the main Challenger Championships (which will be on the 26th April and will be an 11am start with approx. 6pm finish subject to entry numbers) with an accompanying event on Saturday 25th - possibly an afternoon and evening event.........more details will follow soon.


Entries for the events will open in early January but the page with details (such as I have so far) will be published before that.

Entry for the main Challenger Championships event will again be free of charge and covered by sponsorship. Entry fees and conditions for any other accompanying event will be published as soon as possible.

Once again this event will have a restricted entry condition although I am minded to move that slightly to include those with a 200-250 ranking position and lower - or no ranking at all. I will confirm this very soon.

The 2019 event was a long overdue first step to supporting the game in areas and for players that have largely been ignored in the past. I’m optimistic, given the wonderful feedback we received, that the 2020 event will be bigger and better.

Thanks,

Lorin

[daveuk1]

I know Nigel is snowed under with stuff and cant and shouldn't be expected to do everything is there anywhere where we can find an upto date-ish ranking list so we have any idea which of our players could enter? Maybe the committee would consider changing the entry restrictions to include anyone ranked 200 or below or anyplayer who has never entered a recognised 3 pin tournament as this may give some of our players the chance to enter even though they have picked up ranking points from the four pin opens they have entered. From memory the only four pinners I can think of who've entered 3 pin comps are Jeremy, Steve and myself, having said all that as per normal it may be hard for us to convince other players that travelling up to York to play 3 pin is a good idea.

How many tables do you normally have? Maybe Jeremy could arrange to send a few narrow tables up so you could hold a four pin on the Saturday.

[curtd]

Hi Dave

I see from Lorins post there is already a consideration to move the restriction to 200 ?

Nigel normally posts the up to date rankings early January with the News Letters.

Curt

Dec 29, 2019 12:26:27 GMT daveuk1 said:

I know Nigel is snowed under with stuff and cant and shouldn't be expected to do everything is there anywhere where we can find an upto date-ish ranking list so we have any idea which of our players could enter? Maybe the committee would consider changing the entry restrictions to include anyone ranked 200 or below or anyplayer who has never entered a recognised 3 pin tournament as this may give some of our players the chance to enter even though they have picked up ranking points from the four pin opens they have entered. From memory the only four pinners I can think of who've entered 3 pin comps are Jeremy, Steve and myself, having said all that as per normal it may be hard for us to convince other players that travelling up to York to play 3 pin is a good idea.

How many tables do you normally have? Maybe Jeremy could arrange to send a few narrow tables up so you could hold a four pin on the Saturday.

We will seek to make entry as clear for all as possible and based solely on National Ranking - the introduction of further extenuating criteria will only lead to an unpleasant debate on 'why this and not that'. I will not entertain this and so will keep things very simple and very clear.

Subject to confirmation from the AEBBA Committee (following publication of the 2019 Rankings List which is expected in the coming days) - entry for this event will be for players ranked outside of the Top 200.

We will have eight AEBBA tables used in the main event on the Sunday and probably all eight will also be used in the Pairs/Teams Challenger events that accompany the main competition on the Saturday.

Until the venue details are finalised it is not possible to make a judgement on space available for you to bring narrow 4-Pin tables neither is there any plan in place to host a 4-Pin event during this weekend. I would strongly encourage those who wish to play in a national 4-Pin event to enter the Specflue 4-Pin World Championship Open in March or enter the AEBBA 4-Pin Open in May - or both!

Lorin

[barbelman]

Dec 29, 2019 12:00:22 GMT @reformedcharacter said:

Hi all,

The date has been available on the AEBBA website for a month or more in the ‘Forthcoming Events’ section.

Hi Lorin

That shows the benefits of advertising in as many places as possible!  The Forum is the first port of call for information for a lot of people...it's not a competition, you know! 

cheers
Tony