AEBBA OVER 50’s & 60’s 2024

[JB]

Entries are now being taken for the over 50s/60s on 27th October 2024 @ Totteridge CC
This is played on the same day as the AE Singles and there is a possibility you can play in two out of the three competitions (depending on number of entries)
Entry fee is £5 per player per competition

Over 50’s

1. Sean Stratford
2. Andy Burns
3. Brian Dawkins
4. Pauline Dawkins
5. Ernie Jordan
6. Dawn Jordan (also in AEBBA singles)
7. Gerry Fitzjohn
8. Tony Jenner
9. Rick Cunningham
10. Jason Neal
11. John Slee
12. John Miller
13. Peter Godden
14. Cliff Slade
15. Andy Godden
16. Dean Clark
17. Syl Murphy
18. Dave Constable
19. Melvyn Johnson
20. Vinny Brown
21. Kevin Giles
22. Matthew Knight
23. Wayne Dibley
24. Ian Lelliott
25. Terry Molloy
26. Alan Oliver
27. Denise Wills (also in AEBBA singles)
28. Pauline Withey (also in AEBBA singles)
29. Jean Brackenridge (also in AEBBA singles)
30. Dave Ingram




Over 60’s

1. Andy Burns
2. Brian Dawkins
3. Pauline Dawkins
4. Ernie Jordan
5. Gerry Fitzjohn
6. Tony Jenner
7. Rick Cunningham
8. John Miller
9. Peter Godden
10. Cliff Slade
11. Andy Godden
12. Dean Clark
13. Syl Murphy
14. Dave Constable
15. John Slee
16. Melvyn Johnson
17. Kevin Giles
18. Ian Lelliott
19. Terry Molloy
20. Alan Oliver
21. Dave Ingram

[jordans]

Ernie for both please and me for over 50's please :)

[fitz]

Can you enter me in the Over 50s and 60s please.

[bigtj]

Tony Jenner and Rick Cunningham for both please

[Hammy]

Jason Neal and Simon Coleman for the over 50’s. Simon also in AEBBA singles

[jordans]

Please enter:-

Over 50's
John Miller
Peter Godden
Cliff Slade
Andy Godden
Dean Clark
Syl Murphy

Over 60's
John Miller
Peter Godden
Cliff Slade
Alan Donovan (if allowed, if not Over 50's)
Andy Godden
Dean Clark
Syl Murphy

Thank you 😊

[sleezy]

Hi all
Can you please enter me for the over 50's and 60's. 
Many thanks. 

[gilo]

Can you please enter for over 50's
Melvyn Johnson
Vinny Brown
Kevin Giles

and over 60's
Melvyn Johnson
Kevin Giles

Many thanks

[wayned]

Please can you add me to the over 50’s comp.
cheers 
Wayne Dibley

[vinnieb86]

Could you please enter Wayne Dibley for over 50s please

[bigtj]

Ian Lelliott for both please

[bigtj]

Please add Terry Molloy for both thank you

[Auntie Pauline]

Hi Jean/Nigel, can you put me in whichever is easiest for you out of the 50's or 60's competitions. Thank you xx

[alan]

Could you please me for both the Over 50's & Over 60's

Thanks
Alan Oliver

[bigtj]

Will this be the usual 11am start??

[BB Warrior]

Can you enter me in the Over 50s and 60s please.

[JB]

The draw for these competitions will be held at our league game on Thursday.

There will be a limit for the over 50’s of 32 players

["Silent"]

Nigel advises that as there are plenty of matches on Sunday the start time will be 10.45am

[wayned]

Where can we find the draw and approx start times for the first round over 50’s please? With travel in mind, would be handy to know. Thank you

["Silent"]

Oct 26, 2024 19:54:43 GMT wayned said:

Where can we find the draw and approx start times for the first round over 50’s please? With travel in mind, would be handy to know. Thank you

Hi, the start time is in the post above. Everyone needs to be there at that time so there are enough scorers to go round. I think Nigel is keeping the draw under wraps!

[bobhall]

Oct 26, 2024 19:54:43 GMT wayned said:

Where can we find the draw and approx start times for the first round over 50’s please? With travel in mind, would be handy to know. Thank you

Start time 10:45 as per previous post so be there before 10:45

[tommo III]

Good luck to all taking part today.

[bigtj]

A good day yesterday and thank you to Nigel for all his hard work organising a day where he has to fit in 4 competitions (and a high entry for the old gits competitions to contend with) , overall it ran very smoothly and I know that not everyone was pleased with the format, but if you think you could do better step up to the plate. Thanks to Matt K for doing all the announcing and getting everyone to their tables and scorers arranged. To the club for hosting and especially to Matt J and Cliff for all their hard work (yesterday and at all events at Totteridge) in getting the tables set up so that a very high standard of bar billiards was on display.

Good to see some new faces and well done to Jason Neal winning the Over 50s and Alan Oliver on winning the Over 60s (sure once he has time to recover from his marathon day yesterday Nigel will when he gets time will give full details)

The Mens Singles was won by Curt Driver and the Ladies by Jean Brackenridge (who won on aggregate score from Janet Burns).

Lastly thanks to all that made it a fun day to be part of.

[BB Warrior]

Congratulations to all of the winners of the competitions held at Totteridge yesterday, great to see so many people there for another well run day of Bar Billiards.

I would certainly like to add my thanks to the very hard-working Admin Desk Team of Nigel, Jean and Matt K for everything they do to provide these events for us, both on the day of the events (often giving up their time when they are not even playing in any of the competitions personally) and also in advance with getting entries and working out the formats for these events, also to Matt J and Cliff for setting up some very good tables for us all to play on. Your work is truly appreciated by us all.

Many thanks also to the Totteridge Club for their continued support in hosting the AEBBA Tournaments for us every year, it's an ideal venue in many ways being fairly centrally positioned for nearly all of the Counties that support these events and they always provide a good selection of food and drink for us and provide a warm and friendly welcome.

As Tony (BigTJ) briefly mentioned in his post, a few people were probably disappointed with the format of the Over 50's and 60's Competitions, primarily over the fact that there was no Plate Competition meaning that 50% of the entrants only had 1 game in those competitions. I can understand their feelings about that, however adding more games on the day was simply not possible for the organisers on the day to fit into the schedule.

I am confident that the organisers will look at alternatives for future competitions to see if any changes can be made and have edited this post to remove the suggestions that I had previously put forward. Thanks again to them for all of their hard work for us all.

[NigelS]

Well done yesterday to the winners of the Over 50s and 60s.

Over 50s Winner Jason Neal (2nd title)
Over 50s runner up Terry Molloy

Over 60s winner Alan Oliver (1st title - 1st attempt)
Over 60s runner up Dave Ingram

[NigelS]

Thanks Tony and Dave for your comments.

I try to make sure everyone has at least 3 legs of bar billiards to play when they enter events as that is standard for an open but for the few people who played the over 50's only it was not possible. I tinkered with the idea of single leg groups but it doesnt really work well as group winners will have to progress only and inevitably someone will not get a chance in a break game and be eliminated unfairly, and at least in a straight knockout you will get a break game. I didnt really consider splitting the AE players into two groups as a group of 3 play just 2 matches and for me to qualify and just get 2 matches in the finals seems harsh.

Over the past few years I have discovered you cant keep everyone happy. At the same event players have complained they do not have enough games and then others complained that they had too many!

A couple of points though I will raise now
- If you enter an All England competition, expect a wait in between matches as there are other competitions going on at the same time. (You can always score a game or two to keep you occupied!)
- Dont expect an early finish (although I do recall an open or two finishing past midnight so no events I have done run that late) - write the day off to bar billiards. If your bed time is before 10pm you might be losing a bit of beauty sleep.....
- There will be a number of options and formats to be considered for each event, and I have to make a decision on which way I will go and as mentioned above this will not be to the taste of everyone. However, what would be constructive would be if someone would think there is an alternative that they actually prepare that format and how it would work so it can be considered. I am quite open to other options. But although things have been said at events as to why is the format not this, no one has come to me with a viable alternative solution for any event so far and why this way would work better.