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Post by NigelS on Apr 9, 2008 9:38:24 GMT
Below is a list of leagues across the country affected by Bar Billiards Ltd's withdrawal. I thought it might be an idea to try to keep tabs on which ones have been saved from closure, and which ones need tables bought to save them. Please update below on whether your league has been saved or has gone the other way. I think I have all the leagues but fell free to let me know if there are any I have missed.
Kent
1 Tunbridge Wells - three tables
2 Dover & Deal - three plus a Leisure Link
3 Medway
4 Maidstone
Oxon
5 Oxford
6 Wallingford
7 Eynsham
8 Witney
Surrey
9 Redhill
Hampshire
10 Portsmouth
Cambridgeshire
11 Cambridge
Northants
12 Northampton
Buckinghamshire
13 High Wycombe
Berkshire
14 Reading
Sussex (all ok not BBL)
15 Brighton
16 Worthing
17 Mid Sussex
18 West Sussex
19 Eastbourne
20 Littlehampton
21 Lewes
22 Horsham
23 Billingshurst
Hastings (is it still going?)
24 Jersey - ok not BBL
25 Guernsey - ok not BBL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 10:00:17 GMT
I spoke to our Chairman Terry Oakley last night and he confirmed that everything is now in place to ensure the continuance of the Redhill League. :)
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Post by NigelS on Apr 9, 2008 10:08:49 GMT
Very good news Tommo, I will highlight all the leagues that are safe in yellow. Lets hope I can have some more positive responses and a few more 'yellow' leagues in the near future.
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Post by barbelman on Apr 9, 2008 10:40:09 GMT
Nigel
Following our EGM and a lot of effort by everyone concerned, the Witney league will be at full strength next season (tablewise anyway)
cheers
Tony
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Post by Colemanator on Apr 9, 2008 10:43:30 GMT
Sounds encouraging so far let's hope it continues.
haven't seen or heard from Johnny George still, I wonder what is happening Cambridge way?
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Post by NigelS on Apr 9, 2008 11:10:46 GMT
That is more very good news re Witney Tony.
Cambridge is a big worry, with not only the loss of a league but also a county at stake. It may be a final blow to them after not even making the county champs last year.
According to Johnny’s website there are 11 teams spread across 9 venues, only 4 of which appear on the BB Ltd list (although one of them is Johnny’s pub the White Swan). That would leave them with 5 venues although I don’t know the exact status of these (are they the leisure link ones or privately owned??). But there must be a chance to save their league. It would be nice to hear from Johnny though on their situation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 11:40:59 GMT
Although Johnny has been a strong voice and really active member of our Forum in the past, remember he's still very young and probably not influencial at County level.
The most pro-active member of Cambridgeshire has always been Keith MacDonald and it would be he - if anyone - who would know what is going on.
Has anyone thought of contacting him ?
Bucks is my offering for a matter of real concern: So many BB-Ltd tables in High Wycombe and no voice on the forum other than Merv (Yearwood). Still, Ray Hussey is Bucks, so perhaps he has been able to broker a special deal with Ken. Let's hope so.
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Post by davemay on Apr 9, 2008 13:26:21 GMT
Thetable listed in the Medway area does not form part of our League structure, as the venue in Question lost the team that played there some 5 years ago, and also has changed hands since that time. I, as president of the CBBL ( MA ), wrote to the venue some 6 months ago, informing the licencee that our league was still a going concern, and as yet had no reply to my letter, and also no phone call from the venue either. On that basis, I can only presume that :-
1, The landlord / manager has no interest in getting a team or
2 The ex-players who maybe still use the venue are no longer interested in playing the game.
The CBBL ( MA ) is still going ( although not that strong ) with, at this time 10 teams although what the future holds after this season is anybodies guess.
I think we will continue next year but with how many teams, and for how long. We do not have any " young blood " coming into the game down here.
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Post by keithmacdonald on Apr 9, 2008 18:30:17 GMT
And as if by magic ....................
We in darkest Cambridgeshire have 11 teams in the league, four of which are affected by BBL decision. Already two landlords have said they will buy their tables, The Nelson's Head and The White Horse. There is a new landlord in my pub, The White Swan, but things are looking quite good. That leaves us with the Seven Stars - we are still trying to make contact.
All in all the league should not falll as all other tables are either privately owned or run by other operators.
Will keep everyone updated as soon as anything changes.
Keith
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Post by mervtheswerv on Apr 9, 2008 19:23:37 GMT
Hi all, currently in our league we have 8 pubs that have league tables. Two of the venues already own their tables. The landlord of my local is currently tring to persuade his boss to purchase their table ( we have three teams playing from there), and it looks promising.It looks definate that we are going to lose one of the venues anyway, so that leaves the others. We should have more info next week.
Merv
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Post by PaulS on Apr 10, 2008 8:56:24 GMT
As far as Reading goes I cannot provide any information as I don't get involved with the running of the league.
Tunbridge Wells, however, I did attend the EGM where funds were secured to buy 4 tables, the existing 3 in the league plus 1 other. Obviously subject to the landlords not taking up their option.
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Post by peetee on Apr 10, 2008 22:39:27 GMT
Hi Everyone
A update from the Oxford League.
At present it's all ongoing. No Pubs Mentioned it's look like we are losing two venues, but have saying that we hope to gain another venue ( Hopefully more). Other Pubs and Clubs in our league look very promising. Discussions and meetings are under way and we are just waiting the outcome from all concerned before our next move.
Pete Ewins
Oxford Secretary.
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Post by Colemanator on Apr 11, 2008 14:08:38 GMT
What about that Suffolk league? i see that there not on any list so i wonder what their table situation is?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2008 16:03:03 GMT
What about that Suffolk league? i see that there not on any list so i wonder what their table situation is? Check the sister thread on this board called "Bar Billiards Ltd", Ian, and on the last page (5 of 5) you will find a breakdown of the affected tables by County. For convenience I lumped the two Suffolk ones in with Cambridgeshire. There's one in Newmarket and one in Ipswich. So if we assume that the Ipswich one is played on in the Sudbury League, that's the only one of their tables at risk and their remainder must be either brewery controlled or privately owned. |
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Post by peetee on Apr 16, 2008 17:15:41 GMT
Looking good in the Oxford League, quite confident we will continue. Update later in the month.
Pete
Oxford Sec :) :)
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Post by Chris_Sav on Apr 18, 2008 7:28:34 GMT
Dover and Deal decided, last night, to follow the table consortium route.
Cash pledges were not a problem, guaranteed manpower to run it when the dust has settled was, and is, a concern.
Sav
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Post by milhouse on Apr 18, 2008 8:39:32 GMT
Have heard that every table in the Wallingford league are being kept :D
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Post by milhouse on Apr 22, 2008 10:33:33 GMT
It seems that all 4 leagues in the Oxfordshire area are going to be ok (Oxford, Wallingford, Eynsham, Witney).
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Post by NigelS on Apr 22, 2008 11:42:18 GMT
Thanks to everyone for all the news on their leagues, and it looks promising, we haven't had any confirmation of a league folding as of yet, and most leagues have said they have plans in place to keep their leagues going. Well done to commitees for reacting so quick to the situation.
Remember all the yellow highlighted leagues are the ones that will still be going next year. I will wait for more news on Reading, Portsmouth, High Wycombe and Maidstone (has Maidstone definitely got a league). Although correct me if any of the 'yellow' leagues are not yet safe, or if there are any leagues I have missed (eg Suffolk???)
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Post by davemay on Apr 23, 2008 8:23:08 GMT
There is still a league going in Maidstone, but for how much longer is very debatable. We here in the Medway league offered them amalgamation with us on more than 1 occasion, the last offering being within the last 6 months. They have at this moment in time declined the offer, as, in the words of one of the players, " we are not to keen to travel to Medway, as it is to far ". The distance between the two areas is less than 10 miles, and the furthest a team would have to travel from the Maidstone leageu as it is now, would be in the region of 25 miles round trip, and that is from Sutton Valence, which is about 5 - 6 miles from Maidstone.
At this time as far as I am aware, there is only 3 venues left, with 5 teams playing, so the future does not look very good for this league. It is also worth mentioning that they are not affiliated to the K.B.B.A. any longer, as they say that it is no longer affordable. It looks like the situation here in the garden of England will go from 4 leagues, down to 3 in the very near future.
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Post by Chris_Sav on Apr 23, 2008 9:04:39 GMT
It is also worth mentioning that they are not affiliated to the K.B.B.A. any longer, as they say that it is no longer affordable. Off Topic. I did get through a resolution to abolish affiliation fees at A KBBA AGM three years ago. The small amounts involved were not much of a loss and it kept Maidstone on board. That, unfortunately in my view, was overturned and affiliation fees reintroduced two years ago. Maidstone are thus no longer affiliated to KBBA Sav |
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Post by peetee on Apr 23, 2008 15:40:03 GMT
Still ongoing in Oxford. 5 Tables out of 13 confirmed with the Secretary. I'm feeling confident with the other venues will update later
Pete Ewins
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Post by milhouse on Apr 23, 2008 16:04:51 GMT
Still ongoing in Oxford. 5 Tables out of 13 confirmed with the Secretary. I'm feeling confident with the other venues will update later Pete Ewins Pete, can you list the venues in Oxford and the ones who have confirmed, so we can all see ? Cheers |
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Post by peetee on Apr 24, 2008 22:57:27 GMT
No Problem
100% confirmed are the Nelson, Dolphin, Portcullis, Horse & Harrow & Shelley Arms.
99% Gladiators Club, Democrats Club, Didcot Con Club
80% plus, Masons, Corner House, H/Ton Con Club
others venues not sure at the moment but still on going ( Berinsfield Club, Temple Bar, Cavalier)
Pete
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Post by mervtheswerv on Apr 25, 2008 15:21:56 GMT
Well it's good news, it would appear that we are only going to lose one venue from our league. All the rest of the tables are already owned or are being bought.
Regards
Merv
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Post by peetee on Apr 25, 2008 16:20:55 GMT
Well it's good news, it would appear that we are only going to lose one venue from our league. All the rest of the tables are already owned or are being bought. Regards Merv May i ask what League? |
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Post by mervtheswerv on Apr 25, 2008 20:10:18 GMT
Sorry, High wycombe
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Post by fazza on Apr 26, 2008 6:08:03 GMT
If you occasionally crossed the border out of Oxford "Pewtee", you would know. Have you never bumped into Merv? I thought that was how you got your broken nose.
Please excuse my jocularity. I feel happy this morning after over 7 hours sleep!!!!!
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Post by peetee on Apr 28, 2008 22:09:05 GMT
If you occasionally crossed the border out of Oxford "Pewtee", you would know. Have you never bumped into Merv? I thought that was how you got your broken nose. Please excuse my jocularity. I feel happy this morning after over 7 hours sleep!!!!! Sorry PF i dont know this big fellow ;) |
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Post by milhouse on Apr 29, 2008 8:42:44 GMT
No Problem 100% confirmed are the Nelson, Dolphin, Portcullis, Horse & Harrow & Shelley Arms. 99% Gladiators Club, Democrats Club, Didcot Con Club 80% plus, Masons, Corner House, H/Ton Con Club others venues not sure at the moment but still on going ( Berinsfield Club, Temple Bar, Cavalier) Pete Don't forget the Vikings Club who have a table but did not have a team this year. |
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