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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 13:11:20 GMT
for the record. i myself have organised a meeting with the four team captains down hurst to decide what to do about the table this is the plan of action so far. we will not adjust the table and if we do adjust it it will not be one of the four captains touching the table i will leave it to two players who know how to set up tables. i for one am playing well on it why because i practise on the table every week. and i practise alone i dont have team mates joining me not from my league team or my interleague team except one and they know who they are. this table is still a high scoring top and unfortunatly unlike the grey hound i dont have radiators right by the table. i have tried speaking to god about getting sum heat in the uk but he ignores me and well as for the weather man there just useless. Glad to hear that something positive is being done, hopefully the 2 people who would make any adjustments will get the table playing well for all the people who play there..... not just 1 or 2 individuals. The weather can make tables play differently, we all know that, but it certainly didn't make this sort of difference last season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 13:11:46 GMT
Fair comment....... but sort of defeats the object of having "home advantage" for the Interleague Teams though! :P But not for those members of the Interleague squad whose home table it is - yours being the Sportsman. I compare the situation to mine up in Redhill: I know my home table (South Park) quite well, but my table for Interleague is the Old Oak, which I don't get to play on so often and am never really sure how it's going to play. I therefore treat it as an 'away table'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 13:14:51 GMT
Possibly helpful for the Interleague B Team then....... but not for Mid-Sussex A where no players are at Hurst Club now. :-X PS. My home table is no longer at the Sportsman....... it got moved a couple of weeks ago! ::)
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Post by H on Jan 21, 2009 13:29:04 GMT
I'm going to sit on the fence and be right in the middle here. I know how well the Hurst Table has played this season, now from the way I am hearing it it is drastically different, but that can't be the case, since as already pointed out, it has still hosted a number of good 10k scores/breaks recently. While it is a lovelly top, I will always turn up early on a home interleague night to have a practice and get a feel for the table. No table is perfect, not even that one. If it has picked up a few quirks or rolls that can be adapted to then we just deal with that. If, however, they are so drastic that they make certain shots unplayable, then that is a different matter.
Ultimately, as long as the table can still be played and have big scores hit on it, I don't think there is any need to be at each others throats about it. However I do promise that I will give my honest opinion on how I think the table is playing after the next interleague game!
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Post by bobhall on Jan 21, 2009 13:32:16 GMT
and i appreciate that H in my opinion if the table is warmed up before hand then it will play better but the heating in the club isnt great
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Post by TIR on Jan 21, 2009 16:00:27 GMT
There are two teams using it as a neutral table tonight the scores and opinions might be of some use.
I will pass them on in my report with any positive suggestions, as I am the person who sets up the Greyhound table these might help.
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Post by girliefosters on Jan 21, 2009 18:16:30 GMT
hmm does the break go the other way now i wonder ?? :)
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Post by bobhall on Jan 21, 2009 19:18:10 GMT
i have been down turned light on brushed and cleaned pockets its the way it has been so enjoy food is done for you guys so i hope you like
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Post by Sir Jock o The Strap on Jan 22, 2009 8:37:09 GMT
Don't woory about it bobballs, its a good top, I know full well how you feel, harking back to last season when we had virtual anarchy in the Brewers about our top. It's hard not to take the negative comments personnally considering the time and effort you put in to the table.
Is it as good as it has been, not likely, is it quirky yes, its what I call a good home top most definitely. Remember its the table thats always blamed for poor play/results at the time.
Keep up the good work mate, it will come good in the end.
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Post by H on Jan 22, 2009 14:31:35 GMT
I second what Jock said
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 16:46:38 GMT
I add this from last night for the sake of a balanced discussion. Table difficult - could with setting up for general play rather than just the break. I would sort out the uphill slope first then the left hand roll as it is difficult to judge how bad the left roll is when there a visible rise uphill. Clean and brushed ready for us though - thanks very much Rob presumably. But I would comment that Boball hit the nail on the head when he posted this: and i appreciate that H in my opinion if the table is warmed up before hand then it will play better but the heating in the club isnt great You can have the best table going, but wood expands and contracts with the temperature, and tables even get affected by increased humidity. You cannot therefore expect it to be at its best all day, every day.
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Post by iang on Jan 22, 2009 19:10:49 GMT
Possibly helpful for the Interleague B Team then....... but not for Mid-Sussex A where no players are at Hurst Club now. :-X PS. My home table is no longer at the Sportsman....... it got moved a couple of weeks ago! ::) As this has been copied & pasted from another thread it's hard to grasp the meaning behind this comment !!! Bobhall has stated that we are having a meeting to get table sorted so I fail to see the point of any further comments on the subject why is everybody focusing so much of their time on this subject there are 12 other tables in the leauge I don't see continued debate about the pros & cons back wards & forwards ups & downs on each of them. GIVE US A CHANCE.
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Post by girliefosters on Jan 22, 2009 21:13:00 GMT
shocking left hand roll ! and break way to easy for you big break boys ! :P
personally i hate it ! but then i've never liked it ! :o
and yes i am joking !!! ;D
guess that's part of home advantage, we should know we've had it at our place for years ! :)
play it as you see it same for both.. kinda.. :-[
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Post by bobhall on Jan 23, 2009 0:30:35 GMT
can we lock this thread until monday please until we have had our meeting because this is doing my head in
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Post by Chunky Monkey on Jan 23, 2009 8:13:16 GMT
can we lock this thread until monday please until we have had our meeting because this is doing my head in I Agree with you Bobhall. But here is one for you all. Hurst Club, Break, one up and split very much playable but is uphill and rolls left- correct! (1 point) ;D Brewerytap/Romans- Break, one up, split, very much playable but is uphill and rolls right, apart from if you leave a ball behind the 10 hole where it is impossible to hit going up eitherside of the black as it dives away.- Correct (1 point) ;D So the point i am making is on the Romans top there was a 23,400 Break a 16,810 break (By myself) and 5 other breaks of 9k+. So why cant this be done down Hurst? They both play identical just one goes left and the other goes right. I didnt hear any Brighton lads, or Redhill lads complain about the Romans top tho! (Tommo i make that 2points to be added to my quizzes total please) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by BB Warrior on Jan 23, 2009 8:42:58 GMT
That is like comparing an apple to a banana Kev.....!! ;D ;D
The table at the Romans is newly installed and is still settling into place....... it is nowhere near as uphill as Hurst Club and the right hand roll is also minimal in comparison. With brand new balls & pockets at the Romans, the balls do not whip out at the back of the table nearly as much as they do at Hurst either.
You are also comparing the abilities between some of the best players Sussex & Surrey (5 of whom are in the current England Team) and those in Mid-Sussex.
For many years, the Hurst top has been one of the best tables in Mid-Sussex, possibly even in Sussex as a whole........ consistently high scores were achieved on it and both the home and visiting teams enjoyed playing on the table.
Since the change to the floor, and the adjustments made to the table, those scores have almost halved and a number of players & teams have complained about it.
Yes, we all know that tables are affected by the weather...... yes, we all know that all tables are different and have their quirks...... but it should not be impossible to get a table level to start with.
I have no problem with any table that has quirks which benefit the home team, the Hurst table always had a couple of those...... what does annoy me is when you play a good shot and get no reward for it.
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Post by Baby Guinness on Jan 23, 2009 8:59:35 GMT
Like Rob say's give it a rest untill we try and sort it on Monday PLEASE ;D ;D ;D
Thread re-locked as per requests.
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Post by Sparky on Jan 26, 2009 23:19:40 GMT
I have been asked to post that the 4 captains have agreed on a table setting and no further discussion on the matter is invited.
Thread remains locked.
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