BBC Bar Billiard article

[NigelS]

Nice article on Charlie Wheeler on BBC Berkshire

www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2007/02/06/bar_billiards_feature.shtml

[CraigC]

Excellent article. Particularly enjoyed the How To Play Bar Billiards bit, I can see where I've been going wrong all these years!

[Q]

But where was this 31k scored???

I would imagine the player to be Mark Sawyer, Q, so the answer to your question would be somewhere in Berkshire.

[Kady]

I may be wrong (and I will get it confirmed) but I believe it was at the White Horse, in Wokingham (I know that is where he did at least one of his record attempts).

Unfortunately the table has been gone from there for a while, but rumors are one might be returning, so fingers crossed!!

[Q]

I thought the record was 28½k ??

Still I will expect that to be beaten at Hurst club now the clock runs anything from 20 - 25 minutes ;D ;D ;D

[NigelS]

Q - the official world record is Mark Sawyers 29k (in 17 mins) at the 1999 Oxon Open. However, I believe he has had 31k+ in his Reading league, as the article suggests.

I think he did it at the Black Boy.

q said:

I thought the record was 28½k ??

Still I will expect that to be beaten at Hurst club now the clock runs anything from 20 - 25 minutes ;D ;D ;D

I thought All-England Playing Rules specified that the timing of a game should be no less that 16 and no more than 21 minutes ?
(Anything more than 21 is an ill eagle.) ;D

Well stone the crows!!!

[Q]

Thats as maybe Clive but our 3rd game was timed (roughly) by Pete Geal at 25 minutes, I then timed the 4th at 21m 45secs, I started timing my own game but forgot all about it when someone who shall remain nameless :-X totally cocked up the scores, I cant remember the exact details but but I was underscored by at least 1k and by opponent overscored by a similar amount after 2 visits. ???
My opponent then somehow ended up about 4k up when my estimate was that he should have been about 2k in front. >:(
Timing was immaterial and I finally remembered to stop my clock at 39 minutes so I dont know what the game ran.

Funny thing is, someone from Hurst complained once that our clock at Handcross was running too long at 19 mins ;D

tommo said:

I thought All-England Playing Rules specified that the timing of a game should be no less that 16 and no more than 21 minutes ?
(Anything more than 21 is an ill eagle.) ;D

AND.... how does that affect my game a few weeks ago - my opponent didnt pull the handle fully so the game ran 13½ minutes?? and I lost

Let's nip this one in the bud, Bernie.
What the game demands is a knowledge of the rules, and competent scorers.

I was stitched up once, look at this which I have pulled from an old thread called Highest Loss ?

"Two years ago I scored 15,000 without missing a shot in an ordinary League match in Redhill and still failed to win ! Slightly bizarre circumstances though ... The first game was deemed too long and thus was a void game. I had passed the 6k target set in my opponents opening break but the scorer let me go on until I had 8k before breaking the news to me that the bar hadn't fallen after 22 minutes. Like a fool I agreed to playing a second frame on the night, and did a touch up on 7k. I then watched in anguish as my opponent (Paul Trottman of the Black Horse) caught me up and overtook me as the bar dropped this time. Gutted or what ! I didn't bear a grudge and in fact we now play in the same team at the Prince of Wales."

A competent scorer will, if he/she thinks a game has run short, allow the bar to be pulled for the requisite amount of extra time, and likewise if it is running over will say "time up, bar's gone", and will remove whatever further balls come down into the tray from the tray.

I shudder to think who may have been scoring your game - you can accept the odd genuine cock-up, but a certain person who shall remain nameless made three separate mistakes when scoring my game when we met in the first half of the season - and won't be scoring my game in the return. >:(

[Q]

Agreed Clive.
Just have to let off steam and have a rant once in a while. ;D ;D ;)

q said:

Agreed Clive.
Just have to let off steam and have a rant once in a while. ;D ;D ;)

If that's the case, then what better place to do that on a saturday afternoon than to go see your favourite football team play, and have a good shout at the ref ?

[Colemanator]

nigels said:

Nice article on Charlie Wheeler on BBC Berkshire

www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2007/02/06/bar_billiards_feature.shtml

Just told my dad about this article as he once knew Charlie. Pete Farrelly is a friend of Charlie Wheeler don't suppose he saw this as he's off here, BTW is Pete still banned?

[Kevin Pringle (R.I.P.)]

Repeat after me Ian, 'I must read the forums !'

Pete wasn't banned from the forums, he left.

TIP: If you look at a players post and he has been banned from a forum it will have 'Banned' in place of where your's says 'Distinguished Member' ;)

I beg to differ, KP, it doesn't work how you have described.

While Pete is allowed to view in to the forum as a guest - as anyone can - his account has been disabled or "locked", meaning that he can't post under his own identity.

To be re-enabled, he only only has to ask - but has made it clear that he has no intention to do so.

A correct definition of the situation is that he is in self-imposed exile.