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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 16, 2013 13:45:40 GMT
Hi guys, I've posted about this on the Test Board, but I fully expect to get no responses or thanks from anyone. So thought I would post it here in the Brighton thread for all my homies!. I've managed to work out this strange variation of BBCode the forum uses and have come up with this... The Atlas c vs The Duke of Willington B - 01/05/13 | Glenn Chubb | 15,960 | 870 | Nick Simmonds | Steve Mariner | 18,870 | 2,360 | Mark Senior | Geoff Jukes | 480 | 6,130 | Gary Frizzell | Grant Tully | 13,290 | 830 | Kim Hurley | Jim Millward | 16,890 | 2,890 | Tim Scotney | 4 | 1 | Breaks: Steve 18,480, Jim 15,000 |
If you would like to use this, or a variasion of this for the forth coming seasons, just go see the thread where you can get instructions... barbilliards.proboards.com/thread/15569/finished-scorecard-template-leg-matchHope everyone is having a great summer :)
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Post by H on Jul 16, 2013 14:57:57 GMT
Here is a response and a thanks - I will probably use this - cheers Glenn
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 16, 2013 17:17:37 GMT
Cheers Glenn,
I assume this can just be filled in in PREVIEW mode?
Could do with a few more "align=right" for home score and same align on home and away players.
Sav.
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 8:32:24 GMT
Thank you H, that's very kind of you to say. I hope it's of use to you.
And Sav, I tried a few variations of alignments and settled on this one. But I can always post a few variations someone and people can vote of which alignments are best. I've not tried to preview mode yet, but if it's an easier way to get it up then I'm all for it.
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 17, 2013 10:46:05 GMT
Volunteer C vs The Unicorn - 13/05/1992 | Chris Saville | 24,430 | 0 | Kevin Brocklebank | Paddy Martin | 10,000 | 4,050 | Dave Freeman | Viv Wright | 7,340 | 1,140 | Stan Brocklebank | Andy Caswell | 13,510 | 300 | Chris Cook | Paul Smart | 9,620 | 3,340 | Kevin Dyer | 5 | 0 | Breaks: Chris 24430, Paddy 10000, Andy 7050, Paul 7130 |
Quoted your post with table card in it, copied the table code from the BBCode tab (including the align = centre div which is not in the template doc), exited that screen, created post where I wanted, pasted copied table code into BBCode tab, switched to Preview and did the editing. Editing was simple in preview mode and tidied up the right and left aligns with the available buttons to make the card consistent. Nice work Glenn.
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Post by doug on Jul 17, 2013 11:17:00 GMT
Hi Glenn. I think some more work is required. According to the scores your Team won 4-1 not 3-2!!!!
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 15:22:46 GMT
Volunteer C vs The Unicorn - 13/05/1992 | Chris Saville | 24,430 | 0 | Kevin Brocklebank | Paddy Martin | 10,000 | 4,050 | Dave Freeman | Viv Wright | 7,340 | 1,140 | Stan Brocklebank | Andy Caswell | 13,510 | 300 | Chris Cook | Paul Smart | 9,620 | 3,340 | Kevin Dyer | 5 | 0 | Breaks: Chris 24430, Paddy 10000, Andy 7050, Paul 7130 |
Quoted your post with table card in it, copied the table code from the BBCode tab (including the align = centre div which is not in the template doc), exited that screen, created post where I wanted, pasted copied table code into BBCode tab, switched to Preview and did the editing. Editing was simple in preview mode and tidied up the right and left aligns with the available buttons to make the card consistent. Nice work Glenn. You call it fixing my alignments, I call it messing them up lol But not to worry. I'm keen for people to use whatever is the simplest way of doing it. There maybe a plugin or something available Sav that allows people to easy post this table. If not then maybe some instructional post somewhere showing people how to do it? If it takes off, it will be fairly easier to cater for other leagues (Littlehampton for example I believe have 6 leg games) so let me know. Next project, a tournament bracket....... one for local competitions that can be updated periodically by the tournament director. I think it would be too much hassle for a one day comp. I still prefer the away team names being aligned to the right though! A vote maybe?
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 15:52:30 GMT
Hi Glenn. I think some more work is required. According to the scores your Team won 4-1 not 3-2!!!! I've not idea what you are talking about.
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 15:55:50 GMT
Volunteer C vs The Unicorn - 13/05/1992 | Chris Saville | 24,430 | 0 | Kevin Brocklebank | Paddy Martin | 10,000 | 4,050 | Dave Freeman | Viv Wright | 7,340 | 1,140 | Stan Brocklebank | Andy Caswell | 13,510 | 300 | Chris Cook | Paul Smart | 9,620 | 3,340 | Kevin Dyer | 5 | 0 | Breaks: Chris 24430, Paddy 10000, Andy 7050, Paul 7130 |
Quoted your post with table card in it, copied the table code from the BBCode tab (including the align = centre div which is not in the template doc), exited that screen, created post where I wanted, pasted copied table code into BBCode tab, switched to Preview and did the editing. Editing was simple in preview mode and tidied up the right and left aligns with the available buttons to make the card consistent. Nice work Glenn. Wow, have just tried it in the preview mode, and your right, it's a piece of cake. I'm now actually very pleased with myself as everyone will be able to use it. If people want, and if asked very, very nicely (and henceforth all micky taking out of me stopped, including that from the Warrior and Tommo) then I could be persuaded to make some more and customize them for different match types. You could then have a "Tables" board on the forum where people could pick one and use it. just a thought.
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Post by BB Warrior on Jul 17, 2013 17:04:19 GMT
Okay guys, self-confessed technophobe here and I have to be honest and say that I haven't got a clue how to do this.....?
Surely, there has to be an easier way than trying to fill in little gaps of "computer speak" while trying to avoid deleting any of the codes that are there?
It all looks very pretty.... but I can't see how it makes it any quicker or easier to report a match result. league tables or competition scores?
Am I missing something here.... or maybe I am just stupid.... please can someone explain it in simple words?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 19:54:12 GMT
Am I missing something here.... or maybe I am just stupid.... please can someone explain it in simple words? If you're stupid Dave, then so must I be, as you have just articulated my exact thoughts. Yes, Glenn, you have demonstrated your programming skills and it all looks very pretty, but it's just another way of putting up a scorecard and Version 5 already provides a perfectly good mechanism for this which we're already using. I've even done my own test and found out how to put vertical and horizontal lines in, the whole process taking me about five minutes ! Neither Dave nor I can be naive or stupid as we administer our own separate websites. (Well, maybe we are as we do it for nothing !) I thought Glenn was on the right track when he said he 'wanted more' out of Version 5 and I thought by this he meant an 'overlay' where by the press of a button a grid was fitted round a chunk of text already there. He may think he's achieved this but it all looks too jolly complicated to me. Here's what I want to be able to do. (2 separate concepts). 1. A league secretary (take for example Henry with his Summer League) eMails out a weekly report with a League table nicely displayed in a grid with rows and columns. I copy and paste this onto my website page reserved for that. It goes across perfectly, true WYSIWYG (good old BT website management). It would be nice then to be able to copy and paste that same table onto ProBoards, but no - the grid lines and spacings are lost. No probs for me, it's Henry's problem, not mine as I can simply do a link to my web page. 2. Team captains put their match reports up and sometimes this just takes the form of a scorecard. I want to incorporate these into the webpage I am running (for example on the new Crawley 4-Pin league). Again I copy and paste, firstly on to a Word page (not Excel, note) - then across to the web page. In doing so it's a quick and slick operation, and it doesn't matter to me what form the scorecard takes - it's very rarely that two look the same, and Word (Windows 7) will have 'sanitized' it for me anyway. Now here's the rub - a scorecard with a coloured background will be counter-productive for my purposes. I have tried taking one across to a website as an experiment and Windows 7 kept the green colour and there was a clash with the design of my web page which has blue colour co-ordination. "Blue and Green should never be seen". Far better if the scorecard was kept to the simplest of (monochrome) designs. Sorry to sound ungrateful, and I bet you regret the day you ever decided to take up rick-rolling.
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 17, 2013 20:13:40 GMT
It's just a fancy scorecard for typing the results into.
Sav
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 22:16:57 GMT
Am I missing something here.... or maybe I am just stupid.... please can someone explain it in simple words? If you're stupid Dave, then so must I be, as you have just articulated my exact thoughts. Yes, Glenn, you have demonstrated your programming skills and it all looks very pretty, but it's just another way of putting up a scorecard and Version 5 already provides a perfectly good mechanism for this which we're already using. I've even done my own test and found out how to put vertical and horizontal lines in, the whole process taking me about five minutes ! Neither Dave nor I can be naive or stupid as we administer our own separate websites. (Well, maybe we are as we do it for nothing !) I thought Glenn was on the right track when he said he 'wanted more' out of Version 5 and I thought by this he meant an 'overlay' where by the press of a button a grid was fitted round a chunk of text already there. He may think he's achieved this but it all looks too jolly complicated to me. Here's what I want to be able to do. (2 separate concepts). 1. A league secretary (take for example Henry with his Summer League) eMails out a weekly report with a League table nicely displayed in a grid with rows and columns. I copy and paste this onto my website page reserved for that. It goes across perfectly, true WYSIWYG (good old BT website management). It would be nice then to be able to copy and paste that same table onto ProBoards, but no - the grid lines and spacings are lost. No probs for me, it's Henry's problem, not mine as I can simply do a link to my web page. 2. Team captains put their match reports up and sometimes this just takes the form of a scorecard. I want to incorporate these into the webpage I am running (for example on the new Crawley 4-Pin league). Again I copy and paste, firstly on to a Word page (not Excel, note) - then across to the web page. In doing so it's a quick and slick operation, and it doesn't matter to me what form the scorecard takes - it's very rarely that two look the same, and Word (Windows 7) will have 'sanitized' it for me anyway. Now here's the rub - a scorecard with a coloured background will be counter-productive for my purposes. I have tried taking one across to a website as an experiment and Windows 7 kept the green colour and there was a clash with the design of my web page which has blue colour co-ordination. "Blue and Green should never be seen". Far better if the scorecard was kept to the simplest of (monochrome) designs. Sorry to sound ungrateful, and I bet you regret the day you ever decided to take up rick-rolling. lol Why is it that so many threads in reply to something I try to do have the phrase "sorry I sound so ungratful" :( But no bother, it really is a peice of cake. and it's jsut the start of trying things out, and moving things along, rather than just "standing still" because we know how to do something. In the next post I shall do a quick walk through that everyone can do. So give me 5 mins :)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 22:23:55 GMT
I shall do a quick walk through that everyone can do. So give me 5 mins :) .........for the Emperor to put on his "New Set of Clothes" ?
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 22:29:33 GMT
Ok here, is an exact walkthrough of how to quickly and easy insert this little table into a post.
Step 1: Find a thread you want to post the table in (I suggest replying to this very message).
Step 2: Highlight and Copy the following text (either by highlighting the text and going to Edit then Copy in your broswer, or just buy holding down the Ctrl and the C button on your keyboard)
[table style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; background-color: #254117"][tbody] [tr] [td colspan="4" style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 7px;"][div align="center"][b]Teams & Date[/b][/div][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"]Team A Player 1[/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"]Score[/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"]Score[/div][/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"]Team B Player 1[/div][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"]Team A Player 2[/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"] Score[/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"] Score[/div][/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"]Team B Player 2[/div][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"]Team A Player 3[/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"] Score [/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"] Score [/div][/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"]Team B Player 2[/div][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"]Team A Player 4[/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"] Score [/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"] Score [/div][/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"]Team B Player 4[/div][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"]Team A Player 5[/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"] Score [/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"] Score [/div][/td] [td style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="right"]Team B Player 5[/div][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td colspan="2" style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="center"][b]Final Team A Score[/b][/div][/td] [td colspan="2" style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"][div align="center"][b]Final Team B Score[/b][/div][/td] [/tr] [tr] [td colspan="4" style="border: 1px solid #7F462C; padding: 4px;"]Breaks:[/td] [/tr] [/tbody][/table]
Step 3: Once that's done, in the thread you want to reply in, click the "reply" button at the top of the big white box there you would normal type your reply (that's the rub, don't use the quick reply feature, actually click the reply button)
Step 4: Now paste all that text in the white box once (by either Edit, Paste in your browser ot holding down Ctrl and P at the same time) All that code is now in the reply box, but of course it's code and confusing to many (myself included half the time) But now enter magic step 5.
Step 5: Click the Preview Button (right next to the BBCode button which is what your currently viewing and bingo, you can now see the table, but you can now type into it. So just enter your details and click post.
Give it a go in this thread and see how you get on.
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 22:31:54 GMT
I can do a quick video tutorial if you prefer?
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 22:32:47 GMT
Actually sod it, I'll do a video tutorial, but could please someone confirm it actually is a video tutorial otherwise I doubt Tommo or the Warrior will actually view it (thinking it's a rick roll lol)
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 22:38:11 GMT
Glenn vs Tommo | Warrior | 5000 | Score | Team B Player 1 | Team A Player 2 | Score | Score | Team B Player 2 | Team A Player 3 | Score | Score | Team B Player 2 | Team A Player 4 | Score | Score | Team B Player 4 | Team A Player 5 | Score | Score | Team B Player 5 | Final Team A Score | Final Team B Score | Breaks: |
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 22:49:51 GMT
Chubbster vs Tommo | The Warrior | 26,000 | 27000 | The Chubbster | Team A Player 2 | Score | Score | Team B Player 2 | Team A Player 3 | Score | Score | Team B Player 2 | Team A Player 4 | Score | Score | Team B Player 4 | Team A Player 5 | Score | Score | Team B Player 5 | Final Team A Score | Final Team B Score | Breaks: |
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 23:00:19 GMT
Ok, here is a quick video tutorial, I'm not going to keep it up forever so take a look.
And I can't stress this enough, it's NOT a rickroll....
You can thank me another time :)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 23:02:12 GMT
Why complicate things - when we can get this at the touch of a button ? Row 1 column 1 | Row 1 column 2 | Row 1 column 3 | Row 1 column 4 | Row 2 column 1 | Row 2 column 2 | Row 2 column 3 | Row 2 column 4 | Row 3 column 1 | Row 3 column 2 | Row 3 column 3 | Row 3 column 4 | Row 4 column 1 | Row 4 column 2 | Row 4 column 3 | Row 4 column 4 | Row 5 column 1 | Row 5 column 2 | Row 5 column 3 | Row 5 column 4 | Row 6 column 1 | Row 6 column 2 | Row 6 column 3 | Row 6 column 4 | Row 7 column 1 | Row 7 column 2 | Row 7 column 3 | Row 7 column 4 |
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 23:08:54 GMT
I think the better question is why do I bother?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 23:22:43 GMT
Much easier - and compatible with my website as it's in monochrome: Southwater SC (HBBL) | | Laughing Fish | | Gordon Ling | 850 | Henry Brooks | 4040 | Phil Knapp | 1310 | Bill Kerr | 5940 | Tom Darkins | 1490 | Dave Ingram | 9990 | Gordon Ling/Phil Knapp | 1570 | Bill Kerr/Dave Knight | 2100 | Tom Darkins/Alex Harding | 3740 | Colleen Park/Henry Brooks | 1680 | Result | 1 | Result | 4 |
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Post by The Chubbster™ on Jul 17, 2013 23:45:27 GMT
Tell me honestly Tommo, what do you think of the new banner at the top of the website?
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Post by BB Warrior on Jul 18, 2013 7:19:46 GMT
Southwater Social Club v Laughing Fish (@ Stout House) 17/07/2013 | Gordon Ling | 850 |
4030 |
Henry Brooks | Phil Knapp | 1310 |
5940 |
Bill Kerr | Tom Darkins | 1490 |
9990 |
Dave Ingram | Gordon Ling & Phill Knapp | 1570 |
2100 |
Dave Knight & Bill Kerr | Tom Darkins & Alex Harding | 3740 |
1680 |
Colleen Park & Henry Brooks |
1 |
4 | Breaks: |
(EDIT - Can anybody explain why the "height alignment" has gone wrong here? I don't think that I changed any of the settings for this, but it has done it twice now (I deleted the first attempt as I did change the horizontal settings on that and thought that I must have messed it up!) and I don't know why??)
| Premier Division | | | | | | | | Pos | Team |
Played |
Won |
Drawn |
Lost |
For |
Against |
Points | 1 | Black Horse |
24 |
20 |
0 |
4 |
80.5 |
39.5 |
40 | 2 | Atlas C |
24 |
16 |
0 |
8 |
71 |
49 |
32 | 3 | Horse & Groom D |
24 |
16 |
0 |
8 |
70 |
50 |
32 | 4 | West Hill A |
24 |
12 |
0 |
12 |
58.5 |
61.5 |
24 | 5 | Duke of Wellington A |
24 |
8 |
0 |
16 |
52 |
68 |
16 |
Okay, I have now tried both methods and Chubbsters version does seem a bit quicker and easier than using the "Table" facility in the options at the top..... Not So Sure BUT, both methods seem a lot more time consuming than the method that I used to use on the "Old" Forum, where I could simply insert a table by converting an Excel Spreadsheet to a .prn file (formatted text, space delimited), copy it direct onto the forum and change the font to Courier New which immediately meant that it kept all of the alignments in the original Excel Spreadsheet.... a method that Sav had very kindly sent me idiot-proof instructions on how to do and meant that it took only a few seconds to update League Tables, Results of Matches, Competition Draws etc. The new system seems to only allow you to manually type in the names, scores etc as it doesn't seem to accept "cut and paste" from an Excel Spreadsheet.... or am I simply doing something wrong when I try that? When I update the Sussex Website, I can copy and paste entire Excel Spreadsheets and Word Documents and the alignments remain in place perfectly as long as I have got the gaps correct on the original document..... the system behind the Sussex Website is Microsoft Office Front Page and is the 2003 version..... it seems strange that something 10 years old seems so much better and easier to use than something brand new! Puzzled Surely, there has to be a quicker way of doing this..... I don't profess to know anything about computers at all, with so much wonderful presentation software available nowadays meaning that you can provide all sorts of information in pretty charts at the touch of a button, I really don't understand why we seem to have gone back to the Stone Age here....??
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Post by racehorse on Jul 18, 2013 7:25:42 GMT
Well, I really like your template Chubbs and will be using it. I see Nige has already used it in Brighton Summer league and i will also be doing the same. Thanks Chubbs.
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Post by BB Warrior on Jul 18, 2013 7:39:23 GMT
Well, I really like your template Chubbs and will be using it. I see Nige has already used it in Brighton Summer league and i will also be doing the same. Thanks Chubbs. I agree that when you are manually typing in match scores it is excellent, it shows the scores from the games clearly and makes it look very well presented. Cool But, it will not allow you to quickly transfer large amounts of information from spreadsheets and since nearly all websites and competitions are run using Excel format so it does not help with those at all.
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Post by BB Warrior on Jul 18, 2013 7:45:27 GMT
Tell me honestly Tommo, what do you think of the new banner at the top of the website? Is that the banner that features two of your team mates very clearly Glenn..... I would have thought that you would love it!
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 18, 2013 7:52:17 GMT
Southwater Social Club v Laughing Fish (@ Stout House) 17/07/2013 | Gordon Ling | 850 | 4030 | Henry Brooks | Phil Knapp | 1310 | 5940 | Bill Kerr | Tom Darkins | 1490 | 9990 | Dave Ingram | Gordon Ling & Phill Knapp | 1570 | 2100 | Dave Knight & Bill Kerr | Tom Darkins & Alex Harding | 3740 | 1680 | Colleen Park & Henry Brooks | 1 | 4 | Breaks: |
(EDIT - Can anybody explain why the "height alignment" has gone wrong here? I don't think that I changed any of the settings for this, but it has done it twice now (I deleted the first attempt as I did change the horizontal settings on that and thought that I must have messed it up!) and I don't know why??)
Surely, there has to be a quicker way of doing this..... I don't profess to know anything about computers at all, with so much wonderful presentation software available nowadays meaning that you can provide all sorts of information in pretty charts at the touch of a button, I really don't understand why we seem to have gone back to the Stone Age here....?? The vertical alignment, take out the extra carriage returns before some of your fields. Re the old method there is still a workaround I have commented on elsewhere that is very quick if you ALREADY have the data in an excel spreadsheet - Save the excel spreadsheet (individual match card) as a .csv (comma delimited file instead of .prn space delimited)
- Load the file into This converter convert it, best with the centre option.
- Select the converted code by clicking on it and then copy it.
- Start your post on Proboards.
- Select BBCode tab.
- Paste the copied code in, move to the end of the code and press enter (allows you to comment after table)
- Select Preview tab
- Tidy up any alignmements you desire with the available tools.
This will not preserve your excel formatting or merged cells but it's very easy.
Sav
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 18, 2013 7:57:38 GMT
Tell me honestly Tommo, what do you think of the new banner at the top of the website? Is that the banner that features two of your team mates very clearly Glenn..... I would have thought that you would love it!
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