Crawley & Dist 4-Pin League Yr 1

Preliminary discussions have been held to start a Crawley 4-Pin league ranged over three summer ( ::)) months in 2013.
The idea is to utilise the three Crawley venues with bar billiards tables, and have a bit of fun in the process.

A draft fixture list has been produced for three teams of three players in each, going round twice (ie 6 frames per match).

Anyone interested in joining us, let me know.

[gandalf the untidy]

May 16, 2013 23:36:50 GMT tommo III said:

Preliminary discussions have been held to start a Crawley 4-Pin league ranged over three summer ( ::)) months in 2013.
The idea is to utilise the three Crawley venues with bar billiards tables, and have a bit of fun in the process.

A draft fixture list has been produced for three teams of three players in each, going round twice (ie 6 frames per match).

Anyone interested in joining us, let me know.

Hi tommo

Great stuff i'm sure eastbourne would like to do a home and away challenge some time, our summer 4-pin league starts on 21st may

regs cs

[hoppo]

Hi Clive

I may be up for this. If you could explain how it would work at the Masters I am sure that I could get a team out for it.

May 17, 2013 5:56:47 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

Hi tommo
Great stuff i'm sure eastbourne would like to do a home and away challenge some time, our summer 4-pin league starts on 21st may
regs cs

Hi Colin,
We're starting off very low key, but will see what develops from there.

Will be looking out for reports on how your Eastbourne 4-Pin progresses with interest !

Regards,
tommo

May 17, 2013 8:14:04 GMT hoppo said:

Hi Clive

I may be up for this. If you could explain how it would work at the Masters I am sure that I could get a team out for it.

Hi Steve,
We would have a slight clash of dates at the moment with the Jubilee Cup, but nothing that can't be surmounted.

Yes we'll have a chat about it on Sunday.

Regards,
tommo

Looks like this might be a goer, with three teams from Crawley and one from Horsham.

Further Pow Wow tomorrow at Horsham Finals Night ! :D

Not necessarily set in stone yet, but here is the preliminary fixture list:

Attachments:

Our dates will now fit round the main rounds of Billingshurst Jubilee Cup and will be:

Week 1  - 3rd July
Week 2  - 10th July
Week 3  - 24th July
Week 4  - 31st July
Week 5  - 7th  Aug
Week 6  - 14th Aug

A reminder that this is the scoring configuration for 4-Pin:


Other Rules of Play as per the East Anglian Leagues:
www.sdbbl.co.uk/page/rules.html
www.norwichbarbilliards.co.uk/League_Rules.html

Note that the spot for the red ball for the break shall be exactly halfway between the rim of the 200 hole closest to the baulk line, and the baulk line  - and that only 6 whites and 1 red are used.

A development now is that the Black Dog have no interest in taking part......they have problems of their own.
The current lineup is:
Team A - Dun Horse A
Team B - Plough TB
Team C - Mill House
Team D - Malt Shovel

IanG is seeing if he can get two more players interested for Dun Horse A to fill the Bye.
If not, we will look at the possibility of a second team from the Mill House.

With still a month before the start, quite a bit could happen between now and then !

[edit 03/6/13 - Dun Horse A are now entering a team.]

I have now been told that The Plough Three Bridges is a non-runner, so we are now in the position of having a Bye to fill again.
The other three teams look healthy though, with Maltshovel having the option of switching to the Holbrook Club should they so wish.

John Miller/Stout House has first option on the Bye - he will let me know one way or the other tomorrow night whereupon fixtures will be finalised.

Meanwhile if anyone else is interested in submitting a team of three players to play three homes and three aways on Wednesday nights in July/August please let me know a.s.a.p. (Venue needs to be roughly within an 8-mile radius of Crawley)

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 10, 2013 13:42:48 GMT tommo III said:

I have now been told that The Plough Three Bridges is a non-runner, so we are now in the position of having a Bye to fill again.
The other three teams look healthy though, with Maltshovel having the option of switching to the Holbrook Club should they so wish.

John Miller/Stout House has first option on the Bye - he will let me know one way or the other tomorrow night whereupon fixtures will be finalised.

Meanwhile if anyone else is interested in submitting a team of three players to play three homes and three aways on Wednesday nights in July/August please let me know a.s.a.p. (Venue needs to be roughly within an 8-mile radius of Crawley)

Hi tommo

might be able to find three players to play at one of your pubs let me know if you are interested and ill ask around
regs cs

Jun 10, 2013 17:37:11 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

Hi tommo

might be able to find three players to play at one of your pubs let me know if you are interested and ill ask around
regs cs

Thanks Colin,

If the vacancy hasn't been filled by midnight tomorrow we'll come back to you, possibly with an offer to play from the Three Bridges venue.

Regards,
tommo

Hi Colin,
The latest now is that the Stout House may be interested in taking the last place but need another day or so to come back to me.
If we have to turn you down, we'll still be up for an "Interleague Challenge" with Eastbourne 4-Pin, maybe later in the year, at an agreed selected venue mid-way between both towns ! 8-)

Regards,
tommo

Jun 10, 2013 17:37:11 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

Hi tommo

might be able to find three players to play at one of your pubs let me know if you are interested and ill ask around
regs cs

Ok, can confirm now that the Stout House aren't interested, so I would now like to take Gandalf up on his kind offer.

There is a vacancy here, though the pub don't know anything about it so you would be negotiating from scratch:
www.crawleysussex.co.uk/directory/plough-pub-three-bridges

Or you could try one of your own choice so long as it's within reasonable distance (8 miles of a Crawley/Horsham ellipse)

Let me know if it's a goer, and I will firm up the fixtures and publish them.

Thanks,

tommo

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 13, 2013 18:52:40 GMT tommo III said:

Jun 10, 2013 17:37:11 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

Hi tommo

might be able to find three players to play at one of your pubs let me know if you are interested and ill ask around
regs cs

Ok, can confirm now that the Stout House aren't interested, so I would now like to take Gandalf up on his kind offer.

There is a vacancy here, though the pub don't know anything about it so you would be negotiating from scratch:
www.crawleysussex.co.uk/directory/plough-pub-three-bridges

Or you could try one of your own choice so long as it's within reasonable distance (8 miles of a Crawley/Horsham ellipse)

Let me know if it's a goer, and I will firm up the fixtures and publish them.

Thanks,

tommo

Hi tommo, i'm sure i can find a team, provided i can register planty of players and pick from those available on the night, will get back to you last thing tomorrow, please pm me if anyone wants to get involved. Please confirm league nights Tuesdays or Wednesdays

regs cs

Hi Colin,
The other teams had a pow-pow on Tuesday night and we agreed the principle of teams of 3 but a maximum of 6 can be registered with registration happening when they first play.  All three teams seem to be going with 3 plus one reserve.

When it comes to a match, three names are submitted for a draw, 1 v 1, 2 v 2, 3 v 3 and then go round again, but substitutes will be allowed for the second half of the match. So you can turn up with 3,4,5 or 6 players.

Apart from that, we want to keep it all as simple and friendly as possible ! 8-)

Mill House will be providing food, but half the amount for normal league night, working on the basis of teams of 3.

Rgds
tommo

Jun 13, 2013 21:15:11 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

Please confirm league nights Tuesdays or Wednesdays

regs cs

We will be staying with this programme, just need you to confirm your home base:

Jun 3, 2013 20:09:32 GMT tommo III said:

Preliminary draft of the Fixtures list:

Wed 3rd July:
Dun Horse A v Plough TB; Mill House v Malt Shovel

Wed 10th July:
Plough TB v Mill House; Malt Shovel v Dun Horse A

Wed 24th July:
Mill House v Dun Horse A; Plough TB v Malt Shovel

Wed 31st July:
Plough TB v Dun Horse A; Malt Shovel v Mill House

Wed 7th August:
Mill House v Plough TB; Dun Horse A v Malt Shovel

Wed 14th August:
Dun Horse A v Mill House; Malt Shovel v Plough TB

Note: All Wednesdays, so this does not clash with Henry's Summer Off-the-spot which is being held this year on Mondays.

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 13, 2013 21:42:41 GMT tommo III said:

Hi Colin,
The other teams had a pow-pow on Tuesday night and we agreed the principle of teams of 3 but a maximum of 6 can be registered with registration happening when they first play.  All three teams seem to be going with 3 plus one reserve.

When it comes to a match, three names are submitted for a draw, 1 v 1, 2 v 2, 3 v 3 and then go round again, but substitutes will be allowed for the second half of the match. So you can turn up with 3,4,5 or 6 players.

Apart from that, we want to keep it all as simple and friendly as possible ! 8-)

Mill House will be providing food, but half the amount for normal league night, working on the basis of teams of 3.

Rgds
tommo

Pretty sure we can make a team on wednesdays but Tuedays is bad as its our summer league night

[gandalf the untidy]

any fees?

might be worth trying a non league venue, i see from the aebba map that theres 1 in Turners Hill, The Bull Henfield, the woolpack burgess Hill, the something arms three bridges

Would all of these would be acceptable and can you comment on venues and tables?

regards
colin

Jun 13, 2013 21:57:05 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

any fees?

Nope, no fees, and will accept results on this Forum so long as all scores are given.

No trophy either, winning team to receive 6 bottles of ale.

And I assume you will be able to bring your own set of mushrooms, plus 4 spots (for in front of the 50s and 100 and for the object ball on the break). If not, no worries as your first home game is against us and I can bring some along for you.

Jun 13, 2013 21:57:05 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

might be worth trying a non league venue, i see from the aebba map that theres 1 in Turners Hill, The Bull Henfield, the woolpack burgess Hill, the something arms three bridges

Would all of these would be acceptable and can you comment on venues and tables?
regards
colin

Well Burgess Hill's too far away for Crawley and Turners Hill is the wrong side of Crawley for the Horsham teams.

But the Bull Henfield would be absolutely ideal as a former Horsham league venue, and one which we would like to encourage as having only recently acquired a table. 8-) 8-) 8-)

Easy for you to get to as well, just A27, A23 and turn of on to the A281 at Pyecombe. 8-) 8-) 8-)

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 13, 2013 22:20:10 GMT tommo III said:

Jun 13, 2013 21:57:05 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

any fees?

Nope, no fees, and will accept results on this Forum so long as all scores are given.

No trophy either, winning team to receive 6 bottles of ale.

And I assume you will be able to bring your own set of mushrooms, plus 4 spots (for in front of the 50s and 100 and for the object ball on the break). If not, no worries as your first home game is against us and I can bring some along for you.

Can do mushrooms and spots

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 13, 2013 22:30:15 GMT tommo III said:

Jun 13, 2013 21:57:05 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

might be worth trying a non league venue, i see from the aebba map that theres 1 in Turners Hill, The Bull Henfield, the woolpack burgess Hill, the something arms three bridges

Would all of these would be acceptable and can you comment on venues and tables?
regards
colin

Well Burgess Hill's too far away for Crawley and Turners Hill is the wrong side of Crawley for the Horsham teams.

But the Bull Henfield would be absolutely ideal as a former Horsham league venue, and one which we would like to encourage as having only recently acquired a table. 8-) 8-) 8-)

Easy for you to get to as well, just A27, A23 and turn of on to the A281 at Pyecombe. 8-) 8-) 8-)

will make enquiries tomorrow

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 13, 2013 22:40:44 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

Jun 13, 2013 22:30:15 GMT tommo III said:

Well Burgess Hill's too far away for Crawley and Turners Hill is the wrong side of Crawley for the Horsham teams.

But the Bull Henfield would be absolutely ideal as a former Horsham league venue, and one which we would like to encourage as having only recently acquired a table. 8-) 8-) 8-)

Easy for you to get to as well, just A27, A23 and turn of on to the A281 at Pyecombe. 8-) 8-) 8-)

will make enquiries tomorrow

Hi 4 pin fellas

The Bull Henfield are in with 2 permanent e/b players and 1 from another 4 so all is rosy

regs cs

Thanks Gandalf. Good to see the Bull in the field  fold. :D
I can now firm up the fixtures which you may take will be as follows:

Wed 3rd July:
Dun Horse A v Bull; Mill House v Malt Shovel

Wed 10th July:
Bull v Mill House; Malt Shovel v Dun Horse A

Wed 24th July:
Mill House v Dun Horse A; Bull v Malt Shovel

Wed 31st July:
Bull v Dun Horse A; Malt Shovel v Mill House

Wed 7th August:
Mill House v Bull; Dun Horse A v Malt Shovel

Wed 14th August:
Dun Horse A v Mill House; Malt Shovel v Bull

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 14, 2013 13:38:09 GMT tommo III said:

Thanks Gandalf. Good to see the Bull in the field  fold. :D
I can now firm up the fixtures which you may take will be as follows:

Wed 3rd July:
Dun Horse A v Bull; Mill House v Malt Shovel

Wed 10th July:
Bull v Mill House; Malt Shovel v Dun Horse A

Wed 24th July:
Mill House v Dun Horse A; Bull v Malt Shovel

Wed 31st July:
Bull v Dun Horse A; Malt Shovel v Mill House

Wed 7th August:
Mill House v Bull; Dun Horse A v Malt Shovel

Wed 14th August:
Dun Horse A v Mill House; Malt Shovel v Bull

Looking forward to it tommo and it will be interesting to see how the east fares against the west

Jun 14, 2013 13:42:39 GMT gandalf the untidy said:

Looking forward to it tommo and it will be interesting to see how the east fares against the west

That comes later in the year with an Interleague challenge !
Meanwhile we're one little happy family, and you're part of it ! 8-)

[iang]

Hi Gandalf.
Great news that your in and also a new venue to go toMy side the Dun Horse will have to get practising to catch you guys up.
I look forward to seeing your side on the 3rd. ;D

[gandalf the untidy]

Jun 14, 2013 15:54:30 GMT iang said:

Hi Gandalf.
Great news that your in and also a new venue to go toMy side the Dun Horse will have to get practising to catch you guys up.
I look forward to seeing your side on the 3rd. ;D

we might get a few games of skittles in as well ;)

Official Fixture list (incorporating rule guidelines) and a scorecard template has now been eMailed to all Captains.

Don't forget to book the home matches with your venue.

Results can be recorded on here, and a page will be dedicated to the competition on the Horsham website (work in progress).

Any problems, let me know. Also if any directions how to get there are needed.

Looking forward to some great and entertaining matches !

tommo