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Post by NigelS on Nov 9, 2010 21:01:14 GMT
These are the 16 qualifiers for the Grand Prix, which will take place 28th Nov, Post Office Club Reading. I would be grateful if players could confirm their attendance. I also need contact details for some people which I have indicated below, if anyone has any of these send me a PM
1 Kevin Tunstall 53 - confirmed
2 Phil Collins 43 - confirmed
3 Nigel Senior 43 - confirmed
4 Keith Sheard 28 - confirmed
5 Leon Beer 25 - confirmed
6 Steven Sheard 23 - confirmed
7 Curt Driver 20 - confirmed
Jim Millward 20 -
8 Mark Brewster 18 - confirmed
9 Simon Ellam 16 - confirmed
10 Mr Chris Newson 15 - confirmed
11 Gareth Lloyd 15 - confirmed
Graham Bisson 15
12 Barry Radford 14 - confirmed
13 Mark Trafford 13 - confirmed
14 Paul Sainsbury 12 - confirmed
15 Martin Smith 10 - confirmed
Mark James 10
16 John Beck 10
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17 Richard Wooton 9
18 Geoff Jukes 9
With regards to the ladies grand prix we still have the special ladies to play, so there may be changes but will work on a current list of qualifiers and put them on here. For the record could both Jean Brackenridge and Mrs Chris Newson let me know if they would choose to play in the ladies OR the open grand prix as a win in the Special Ladies for either lady would put them on 10 points and make them reserves - if I know for definite what they would play it will help me put together a list of reserves for the Grand Prix
15 confirmed
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Post by milko on Nov 10, 2010 4:37:52 GMT
Yes, for Steven & myself.
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Post by milhouse on Nov 10, 2010 9:48:15 GMT
Yes i can attend :)
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Post by curtd on Nov 10, 2010 15:20:02 GMT
Me and Mark Brewster will be there
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Post by Chris on Nov 10, 2010 22:25:36 GMT
Hi Nigel
I confirm the entries for Mr Chris Newson and Barry Radford
Chris
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Post by JB on Nov 11, 2010 23:53:35 GMT
Hi Nige
Ladies please
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Post by NigelS on Nov 12, 2010 1:01:12 GMT
thanks for the quick answers guys - we have 12 confirmed so far, Martin Smith has now qualified
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Post by NigelS on Nov 12, 2010 1:04:11 GMT
Myself and Dave Alder also discussed another match could be played on the day as the numbers will be small in the club as we are only playing the grand prix and ladies grand prix and no longer the over 50 & 60s comps
I was thinking maybe a 7 a side match all play all between Berks and Rest of England. Dave thinks he can get 7 from Berks so if anyone is travelling up with someone and fancies a few games or would like to play put your name down on here and i will start to think about how the format will work on the day.
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Post by PaulS on Nov 12, 2010 8:21:25 GMT
Hi Nige,
Yes I will be attending.
Regards
Paul
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Post by milko on Nov 12, 2010 11:29:02 GMT
Myself and Dave Alder also discussed another match could be played on the day as the numbers will be small in the club as we are only playing the grand prix and ladies grand prix and no longer the over 50 & 60s comps I was thinking maybe a 7 a side match all play all between Berks and Rest of England. Dave thinks he can get 7 from Berks so if anyone is travelling up with someone and fancies a few games or would like to play put your name down on here and i will start to think about how the format will work on the day. .............and theres me thinking that I will get home earlier!!! ??? ::) :-/ ;) |
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Post by SirKT on Nov 12, 2010 14:05:18 GMT
Myself and Dave Alder also discussed another match could be played on the day as the numbers will be small in the club as we are only playing the grand prix and ladies grand prix and no longer the over 50 & 60s comps I was thinking maybe a 7 a side match all play all between Berks and Rest of England. Dave thinks he can get 7 from Berks so if anyone is travelling up with someone and fancies a few games or would like to play put your name down on here and i will start to think about how the format will work on the day. Why worry about numbers? It`s not as if the club are putting on hot food for us. I`m personally against a team match and would like an early finish for a change :) |
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Post by Chris on Nov 12, 2010 15:13:48 GMT
I too really don't want my day extended. It will be difficult enough as it is to get checkers and markers and often the people that travel with players end up marking and checking. Look at Hayley Tunstall who always tirelessly marks games !!
I am the same as Keith/Kev and I too as a frequent driver was looking forward to a slightly shorter day than usual especially as I hate night driving.
Chris
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Post by NigelS on Nov 12, 2010 16:25:43 GMT
The suggestion of this match would neither extend the length of the day and it should actually alleviate the problem of getting scorers – I am sure Dave more than anyone wants an early finish as well!
The problem if we have no other games on is that we have 24 players and 16 of them will be playing if we use all the tables – so the other 8 will be scoring. So everyone will either be playing or scoring all day! No chance of that happening!
If we use a format where the 6 groups take place over 6 series it would mean that players in that group will be able to (and should) score their group games. This is also a lot fairer as the first two games in each group are played on the same table. This leaves us with 2 spare tables whilst the group games are being played, and then we have another 6 when the semis and the final are being played – enough for 48 legs of bar billiards. What I am suggesting is that we can put games around this where if there are 2 teams they can score for themselves again alleviating the problem of scorers – a 6v6 match would be 36 games and would fit in nicely if people are interested in playing (especially those who are travelling up who faced a day of scoring)
Under this I reckon a 12 start for a 6 finish which should be acceptable (I was thinking we could go back to a 12 start for this one but will check with Dave).
Obviously this is just a suggestion and depends on if there is any interest on getting people to play a friendly match – but I just wanted to make it clear that we are not extending the day and it should make the day more enjoyable for everyone.
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Post by Chris on Nov 12, 2010 16:44:17 GMT
Hi Nigel
If it does not extend the day then fine and if it allows checkers and markers to be available. I do appreciate the work you do here and Dave.
I don't though agree with going back to the 12pm start as it was agreed at the AGM that all comps would be 11.30 start I thought but I may be wrong.
Chris
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Post by milko on Nov 12, 2010 16:50:35 GMT
Hi Nigel If it does not extend the day then fine and if it allows checkers and markers to be available. I do appreciate the work you do here and Dave. I don't though agree with going back to the 12pm start as it was agreed at the AGM that all comps would be 11.30 start I thought but I may be wrong. Chris I couldn't have put it better myself. Keith :D |
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Post by NigelS on Nov 13, 2010 13:04:19 GMT
I will check with Dave re start times, this one I think is a bit different as the Grand Prix has never started early because of the over 50's and 60's so don't know if the 11.30 start time applies as the original 12pm start time never did. It depends what people want really - an 11.30 start for 5.30 finish or 12 start for 6 finish.
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Post by NigelS on Nov 14, 2010 16:50:53 GMT
Also the dress code is....
All players should wear smart shirt, bow tie and waistcoat, black trousers and black shoes. Ladies may wear blouse and skirt.
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Post by milko on Nov 14, 2010 20:08:23 GMT
I will check with Dave re start times, this one I think is a bit different as the Grand Prix has never started early because of the over 50's and 60's so don't know if the 11.30 start time applies as the original 12pm start time never did. It depends what people want really - an 11.30 start for 5.30 finish or 12 start for 6 finish. The rule states, ALL AEBBA Tournaments to start at 11.30am. |
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Post by NigelS on Nov 14, 2010 23:38:23 GMT
We have 16 and the groups are finalised as follows.....
Dave will make a decision on the start time and let us know.....
Group 1
(!) Kevin Tunstall
(8) Mark Brewster
(9) Simon Ellam
(16) Richard Wooton
Group 2
(2) Phil Collins
(7) Curt Driver
(10) Mr Chris Newson
(15) Martin Smith
Group 3 (otherwise known as the group of death!!)
(3) Nigel Senior
(6) Steven Sheard
(11) Gareth Lloyd
(14) Paul Sainsbury
Group 4
(4) Keith Sheard
(5) Leon Beer
(12) Barry Radford
(13) Mark Trafford
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Post by milko on Nov 15, 2010 14:13:43 GMT
We have 16 and the groups are finalised as follows..... Dave will make a decision on the start time and let us know..... Dave hasn't got a decision to make, as it's in the rules for an 11.30 start!! :-X Keith >:( |
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Post by NigelS on Nov 15, 2010 19:23:34 GMT
I understand your point here Keith but that the Grand Prix never started at the old time of 12pm when that was the rules and the over 50 and 60s always started at 11am - so why do we have to start at 11.30am if it makes no sense to do so? The rule was changed to avoid finishes after 7.30pm but with a 6pm finish for the grand prix with a 12pm start this is not an issue here
I have spoke to Dave and he is deciding but I know he would rather start this one at 12 because he has struggled to get the other tournaments started by 11.30, it also gives more time for setting up tables etc for the sake of half an hour. It also gives us Sussex boys and Kent boys a bit of leeway (and maybe a chance to get a bite to eat before the tournament starts ;) )
We are trying to decide what is best for everyone, I think if the rule proves inflexible it becomes unworkable - if next year we bring back the over 50s and 60s to the same day as the grand prixs going by the rule we have to start at 11.30am instead of 11amforcing a 9pm finish - where would be the sense in that?
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Post by milko on Nov 16, 2010 13:00:21 GMT
Okay Nige, point taken, but if the rule needs to be more flexible then an amendment to the rule needs to be put in to cater for the Grand Prix & (Over 50's/60's when combined on the same day as the Grand Prix) but hopefully they will never be put together on the same day again, as that makes it too long a day for an AEBBA event. I do though agree with you about the idea of putting something with the Grand Prix, if it's not going to make the day any longer, so what about playing just the Under 25's with the Grand Prix for 2011?.....but then again if there were a lot of entries for the U25's it would make it a long day again, unless we had 10 tables available, but I suppose theres not enough space for 10!!
I'm begining to ramble on now, so will stop!! :-/ ;D
Keith
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Post by David.G on Nov 16, 2010 23:00:29 GMT
I have considered the start time for the GRAND PRIX on 28th November.
The start time will remain at 12 noon. All players to arrive no later than 11.30 to allow for photos to be taken.
I have looked back to the original proposal to change start times at AEBBA Tournaments. Reads as follows
""I would like to propose that the start time of AEBBA Tournaments be changed from 12.00 start to an 11.30 start. Except the over 50s, 60s, & Grand prix day That starts earlier already. This is because they seem to be finishing later than need be these days.""
As I cannot gain entry to the club before 8.30 I would like the extra 30 minutes to make ready for the competition.
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Post by milko on Nov 17, 2010 4:48:34 GMT
Good work Dave, I wondered how long it would take for you to find the original wording of the proposal. 8-)
All it needs now is for Sav to update the rule again with those highlighted words that you put down.
Incidentally, Sav has done a great job in updating all the changes from the last two AGM'S, including working out all the measurements into metric, but I wonder though, if anyone else had noticed,!! :P
Keith :)
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Post by Chris_Sav on Nov 17, 2010 7:26:50 GMT
Incidentally, Sav has done a great job in updating all the changes from the last two AGM'S, including working out all the measurements into metric, but I wonder though, if anyone else had noticed,!! :P Keith :) Thanks Keith, there had been no comment until now. I think metric makes a complete mess of the rules, but that's the rule!! Will I remember the pegs have to be seven inches or 17.8cms from the 100 hole?? :-* Sav the dinosaur. |
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Post by milko on Nov 17, 2010 13:05:31 GMT
Incidentally, Sav has done a great job in updating all the changes from the last two AGM'S, including working out all the measurements into metric, but I wonder though, if anyone else had noticed,!! :P Keith :) Thanks Keith, there had been no comment until now. I think metric makes a complete mess of the rules, but that's the rule!!Will I remember the pegs have to be seven inches or 17.8cms from the 100 hole?? :-* Sav the dinosaur. I agree that the metric measurements do look a bit ridiculous, so I think one or two of them could be rounded up to make them look more realistic. So, a new proposal needed? or just common sense to do it? e.g 6. Another spot shall be fixed in the centre of the table with its centre not less than 17.1 cms and not more than 17.9 cms from the centre of the break spot on the "D". This shall be known as the red spot. To 6. Another spot shall be fixed in the centre of the table with its centre not less than 17 cms and not more than 18 cms from the centre of the break spot on the "D". This shall be known as the red spot. Sorry, I seem to have taken this off topic. |
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Post by David.G on Nov 17, 2010 19:07:31 GMT
e.g 6. Another spot shall be fixed in the centre of the table with its centre not less than 17.1 cms and not more than 17.9 cms from the centre of the break spot on the "D". This shall be known as the red spot. To 6. Another spot shall be fixed in the centre of the table with its centre not less than 17 cms and not more than 18 cms from the centre of the break spot on the "D". This shall be known as the red spot. Sorry, I seem to have taken this off topic.In my book 2 mm is a lot (so my wife keeps telling me) ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by bobhall on Nov 28, 2010 19:03:03 GMT
congratulations to kt on winning the grand prix beating nigel senior
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Post by Colemanator on Nov 29, 2010 23:27:21 GMT
well done Kt, well played all others 8-)
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Post by milko on Nov 30, 2010 13:07:06 GMT
Well played Kevin on yet another title in what was another 5 star performance on the day. I saw your superb 23k+ run out in the final before I went home, on a table that took me 3 breaks to make 10k. :-[
Unlucky Nigel, I hear that you made a great effort in the final to catch Kevins score but you came off at 17k?
Top four seeds won their groups to make the Semi Finals, KT (1) beating me (4) and Nigel (2) beating Phil (3)
I was very pleased to win my group, as I was up against three very good players in P Sainsbury, L Beer & M Trafford, who incidentally had a fine day to finish a creditable 2nd in the group....well done Mark.
Well done to Mrs Chris on her fantastic win, also to Mel who made the final and had some great performances along the way.....well played you two. :-* :-*
Another well organised day by Dave.
Keith
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