Mid-Sussex Website

The data restoration process begins.....

Oct 11, 2013 12:48:44 GMT tommo III said:

..... these are the pages which are currently ‘lost or missing’;
P8 (on the Menu): County/Interleague
Pp 13 – 14 Archived News, 2010/11 & 2011/12
P18 Roll of Honour dating back 40 years
P20 Final League tables, 1991-2013
P26 Player averages, 2008-2012
P27 Player averages, 2012-2013
P34 Cup competitions 2010/11 incl. 3rd Masters
P35 Cup competitions 2011/12 incl. 4th Masters
P36 Cup competitions 2012/13 incl. 5th & 6th Masters
P37 Charity Cup 1992-2001 inclusive
P38 Charity League 2001-2010
Pp 40 – 41 Home/Away Interleague
Pp 42 – 43 One Day Interleague
Pp 44 – 45 Ladies Interleague
P46 County exploits
Pp 47 - 48 Summer League, 2010 & 2011

Pages will be highlighted in yellow on the above list as/when they have been restored to the website.
Further tweaks (such as adjustment of column-widths, addition of images etc) can take place afterwards.

[Sparky]

Oct 11, 2013 23:38:50 GMT tommo III said:

Thanks, Graham, for the sentiment. Unfortunately some of the problems have been of my own making (putting my trust in a huge organisation with most of its expertise based in the U.S.)
It has proved more beneficial for me to find my own solutions, which don't always present themselves right away and I often go around mulling things over for days on end before having a "Eureka moment".

I have the utmost respect for all other 'webbies' on here - Sav, Warrior, Nigel, Barbelman, BigTJ, Ric B. to name but a few - who I'm sure have encountered their own particular set of problems before overcoming them. And some of the new websites put up by the youngsters like Luke (Guernsey) Sandy (Hastings) and Tiny (Northants) so quickly are particularly impressive.

LOL Tommo you make it sound so easy, but seriously, I'm pleased you shared those insights as it actually emphasizes the effort you make

Also good to highlight the good works of other selfless 'webbies' in the Bar Billiards community

It's taken me most of the day (much investigation involved) but pages 26 and 27 (5 years' worth of averages) are now working.

Whole morning's work completed (much tweaking involved !) but pages 37 and 38 (full record of Charity League) now working.

Ok, a concerted effort this morning and late afternoon has restored the last pieces of the jigsaw (6 large interleague files).

Now the fun begins, improving the visual display where possible, and the addition of a few images. Also, the Hall of Fame (P18) is a few years out of date as the file I was able to recover was one from 2010. - this now resolved.

P8 Menu re-shuffle
Pp 13 – 14 Archived News, 2010/11 & 2011/12
P18 Roll of Honour dating back 40 years
P20 Final League tables, 1991-2013 (only goes up to 2010)
P26 Player averages, 2008-2011
P27 Player averages, 2011-2013
P29 Finals night 2013
P31 All time list
P34 Cup competitions 2010/11 incl. 3rd Masters
P35 Cup competitions 2011/12 incl. 4th Masters
P36 Cup competitions 2012/13 incl. 5th & 6th Masters
P37 Charity Cup 1992-2001 inclusive
P38 Charity League 2001-2010
Pp 40 – 41 Home/Away Interleague (1986 report missing)
Pp 42 – 43 One Day Interleague
Pp 44 – 45 Ladies Interleague
P46 County exploits
P47 Summer League, 2010 & 2011 (2011 missing)
P50 Northants challenge

Pages will be highlighted in green when I am reasonably happy with them.

These are the last bits to do, and will take a little longer to address - so "bear with !":

Oct 17, 2013 17:48:56 GMT tommo III said:

P20 Final League tables, 1991-2013 (only goes up to 2010) - resolved 18/10/13
Pp 40 – 41 Home/Away Interleague (1986 report missing) - resolved 21/10/13 by means of additions to 'Bygone Days'
P47 Summer League, 2010 & 2011 (2011 missing) - resolved 19/10/13

Website now restored to its full glory. Attachment pages now have a 'new look' and for the future will be easier to maintain.

[iang]

Well done Clive & thank you for all yor hard work & efforts, it's good that we have someone who has the dedication to get it back up & running.

[toby1000]

Just been browsing through the Mid-Sussex website and as reading the article about the Prince of Wales in East Grinstead and saw this lineup
Tupper/Lewes/Elliott/Leeson
I played in the same team as Harry Leeson when I first started playing in Brighton we also had another top player I think it was Terry Malloy.Harry was the top player in Brighton in the late 70s and early to mid 80s three times Brighton singles champion and considering the players around at that time was no mean achievment.I was mainly reserve at that time still learning the game.Not sure if Harry is still playing I know his dads meat business is no more in the open market.I know Chris upper and Ian Eliotare still playing.

Hi Paul,

Glad to see you're taking an interest in the website and there is also a lot to be found on the history in the 70s and 80s on both the Horsham and Billingshurst websites as well. Interleague history from the 90s onward is more comprehensive and fully covered on the SCBBA website.

Harry Leeson was indeed a formidable player and is a former teammate of mine too ! In the second year at the Prince of Wales he jumped ship at Christmas and played the second half for us at the Brewery Shades, winning all ten of his games which helped us to win the Crawley League from the POW by one point !

It is a popular misconception that Brighton have always been dominant at Interleague since time immemorial - but this is not the case as their heyday began around 1978/79 - at the same time as several of their players broke into the County side. Before that (in the 50s and 60s) Horsham and Billingshurst were dominant, and in the 70s good spells were enjoyed by Portslade and Littlehampton. But since the 1980s it has been all Brighton and Worthing.

The Brighton squad around 1978/79 was Dave Lewes, Mick Winder, Vic Clarke, Jeff Dobson, Terry Race, Colin Smith, Chris Tupper, Dave Elliott, Harry Leeson and Tommy Walters. Many of these are still playing and performing to a high level - which is great to see as they are contemporaries of Worthing stars Ian Lelliott and Roger Taylor and players like Tony Franks, Mick Holmwood and myself who came in to replace the Horsham 'old guard' who had dominated before. And we have all shared a friendly rivalry since we were 'youngsters'.

Catching up on recent news:
www.mid-sussexbbl.co.uk/page2.html

Plenty more still to do on Hall of Fame, etc.
Busy time of the year for me !

Competitions page updated with a report on Finals Night:
www.mid-sussexbbl.co.uk/page7.html

Clicking on P37 brings up the full progress of all cup competitions for the season - including the Masters with scores. Shame no scores were submitted for the two Masters held in the one year (2012/13) but I can only show what I've been given.

May 12, 2014 16:22:08 GMT tommo III said:

Plenty more still to do on Hall of Fame, etc.
Busy time of the year for me !

Pages 17,18,20 and 27 have been updated with the recent winners.
www.mid-sussexbbl.co.uk/page5.html

Finals night 2014 will shortly be slotted into new Page 30 29, to release the Competitions page for Henry's Summer League.

Try this for size.......a full history of bar billiards on a National scale in three separate parts:

www.mid-sussexbbl.co.uk/page9.html

Click on where is says TIMELINE at the top of the Mid Sussex "Bygone Days" page, making your selection from the three choices available:
1972-ON
1991-ON
2007-ON

Everyone who has ever won something nationally is in there somewhere, and I am constantly updating with extra photos.
The third file provides links to each of the 30 Newsletters so far from Nigel Senior.

Okay, let's try one.......Kevin Hall was semi-finalist in the World Championships last year, but didn't he make the quarter-finals once before ?
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Click on (3)
There he is: quarter-finalist as long ago as 2007.
....but no Nigel newsletter to click on and read all about it, as these only commenced in 2009.

Oct 17, 2013 17:48:56 GMT tommo III said:

Pp 13 – 14 Archived News, 2010/11 & 2011/12 - now resolved

Have just become aware that Newspage 13 is half the size it should be and is missing the back half of season 2010/11 (Jan - May 2011).

This I am now in the process of restoring, with the help of this wonderful Forum !

Edit - Took a whole day's effort - but Done !

Ditto for Newspage 14 - somehow April and May 2012 had become missing. Now restored.
tommo

Website updated with latest competitions draw, as well as a snippet on 1-Day I'League (under 'News'): Results for this are now included on page 43.
Latest averages are accessible via the League table page.

Pssst.......You can now click on the link below to go straight in !

Jul 18, 2015 10:21:51 GMT tommo III said:

I have recently acquired a book which contains a complete record of the Sussex Ladies Interleague from its inauguration in 1972/73 through to 1977/78. Also for the two seasons 1980/81 and 1981/82.

The source is entirely reliable, being donated by the Ladies Interleague Secretary at the time (the Ladies ran their own show in those days).

Up until now information on the early participants has been very sparse, as will be seen on the "big chunk of red" on this linked page of the SCBBA website:
www.sussexbarbilliards.com/Sussex/1%20day%20cups/One%20Day%20Ladies%20Home.htm

I will, over the course of the next week, be adding the relevant parts of this new information to the Horsham, Billingshurst and Mid-Sussex websites - and to the Crawley pages hosted by Horsham. When I am done I will release the book to Sussex Website Admin for eventual completion of the full picture.

For information, Ladies Interleague started off as a Home/Away competition and switched to a One-Dayer in 1982/83 - which it has remained ever since.

tommo

DONE for Mid Sussex:
docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ata1Y76hpZMwdEMxWlVvcVhRZndENEl6OHEweTVVUXc&output=html

(Scorecard extension file still to do)

Jul 21, 2015 15:36:10 GMT tommo III said:

(Scorecard extension file still to do)

All scorecards now added (75 of 'em !)
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pnXL8rP05sEaeAbDPwXLOC1ULkENExGfn_Zs4l-y1Go/pub?output=html

Shame about the two 'missing' years of 1978/79 and 1979/80: if anyone has any old records knocking about and can throw some light on these, please come forward !

Sept 11, 2013 8:34:33 GMT tommo III said:

*Announcement*
..... the upshot is that the design wizard I used four years ago has been rendered obsolete, is no longer supported and will shortly be phased out completely. All users were supposed to have been forewarned, but somehow I seem to have been missed.....

I have no alternative than to go for a complete re-design, using Easysite Pro-Plus, which they say will be a much slicker arrangement, more easy to maintain and with full technical support.

This means that I will be busy over the next couple of weeks, so please bear with me. During this time the 'old' site will still be maintained, but not all the links may work.

Apologies for this temporary loss of service, but hopefully the website will be restored as faithful as possible to the original - a bit like Proboards itself when it moved on to Version 5.

Well I managed to fend off the change to a new website for 2 years, but it's finally happened: my preferred design tool was removed w.e.f 31/7/15.

So the only alternative I'm left with is to go for a complete re-design: Stand by for a bumpy ride !

Quote from news page of the website:

*Announcement*

This website was created in 2009 using a design wizard which has been rendered obsolete and is no longer supported, meaning that for the last two years no new pages could be added. Now, w.e.f. 1st Aug 2015, I cannot do updates at all - other than to "News" (which is linked separately via Google).

Whilst the option still exists for me to go for a complete re-design, I am far from impressed with the new design tool which is on offer and do not wish to land you all with what I see as an inferior product - for as long as I can help it.

In view of this, for the first half of the season the current league table will be displayed along with Ian's weekly report on the main "News" page. All other pages of the website will remain static. The changeover to the new version of the website will occur some time over Christmas. - Clive Thompson, website administrator.

So, to recap, everything for the new season is now displayed on one page - the "Latest News" page. (This being the only page I am able to update.)

• Latest League table with a progression of Ian's write-ups
• Sundry news

+ (added today):

• Players list from Ian
• Team Cup Draw from Lorraine

Oct 6, 2015 11:16:34 GMT tommo III said:

Team Cup Draw from Lorraine

For info, this link (accessible via the News page) has now been replaced with the Draw for all cup competitions.

*Announcement*
This website was created in 2009 using a design wizard which has been rendered obsolete and is no longer supported, meaning that for the last two years no new pages could be added. Now, w.e.f. 1st Aug 2015, I cannot do updates at all - other than to "News" (which is linked separately via Google).
Whilst the option still exists for me to go for a complete re-design, I am far from impressed with the new design tool which is on offer and do not wish to land you all with what I see as an inferior product - for as long as I can help it.
In view of this, for the first half of the season the current league table will be displayed along with Ian's weekly report on the main "News" page. All other pages of the website will remain static. The changeover to the new version of the website will occur some time over Christmas. - Clive Thompson, website administrator.

Imminent !

Tommo is pleased to announce that the new all-singing all-dancing Mid Sussex website seems to have come across okay.

I have tried to retain as much of the old format as was allowed, whilst not losing a modicum of information that was there previously.

Let me know what you think, and if there is any way in which you think it can be improved.

Updates are now possible once more and should be a relatively painless process - which as you know hasn't always been the case !

[Sparky]

Dec 31, 2015 18:01:25 GMT tommo III said:

Tommo is pleased to announce that the new all-singing all-dancing Mid Sussex website seems to have come across okay.

I have tried to retain as much of the old format as was allowed, whilst not losing a modicum of information that was there previously.

Let me know what you think, and if there is any way in which you think it can be improved.

Updates are now possible once more and should be a relatively painless process - which as you know hasn't always been the case !

Many thanks Tommo for all your, yet again, tremendous efforts and look forward to entering your website sometime after this evenings festivities

Dec 31, 2015 18:01:25 GMT tommo III said:

Updates are now possible once more and should be a relatively painless process - which as you know hasn't always been the case !

Right, we'll see just how painless..........

IanG has gone through some of Roy's records and has come up with the missing data for this year on Charity Cup :

Charity Cup - 1999 / 00 Season

no other detail available other than the finalists……….

Winners: Windmill A (B/H)

Runners-up: Windmill C'y

Page 30, here we go.....


[edit - yes, all done in Hall of Fame within an hour]

Dec 31, 2015 18:01:25 GMT tommo III said:

Tommo is pleased to announce that the new all-singing all-dancing Mid Sussex website seems to have come across okay.

Have finished fiddling and tweaking, new website is now as good as I can get it and will need the minimum of maintenance from now on.

Would appreciate any feedback from regular users of the site, regarding for example:

• does it work okay on a tablet ?
• can you now see this season's fixture list ?
• are the attachment files on the Hall of Fame readable ?

[iang]

Hi Clive.

Sorry to report that I can get the home page on my tablet but when I try to open a page it comes up with a message that it will send you an email requesting access.

Can access the Hall of fame tab ok but can't open further

Comps open ok

County Interleague front page ok but can't open further

Bygone days can't open request access message

I have looked at the Fixtures on the laptop and I can't read it

Good news attachments on hall of fame work fine all in order on laptop

I hope this helps.

Thanks Ian,
I was expecting some teething problems and your feedback will be instrumental in resolving them.

I had no IT support before on the old version but with the new one have the benefit of a response team.

I get a message on my own tablet that there is a "link to a suspicious site" which I have to override to get it to work, so may have to remove any links to the Forum and see if that makes any difference !

[iang]

I haven't had that message,

Is there any way when you open the attachments that it opens in a new tab like the main sections do I have found that the home page disappears so you have to use the back arrow or reopen the site again.

It's a small point but would make it easier to navigate.