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Post by NigelS on Mar 31, 2016 12:10:32 GMT
For those that are interested quite a few results have been uploaded onto the website, there are about 30 opens that have now been entered and as the Surry Open is completed I have put some all time Surrey stats on there. My thanks go to those that are helping me do this. Take a look on www.stagecoachgames.com. |
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Post by milko on Jul 5, 2016 3:30:05 GMT
For those that are interested quite a few results have been uploaded onto the website, there are about 30 opens that have now been entered and as the Surry Open is completed I have put some all time Surrey stats on there. My thanks go to those that are helping me do this. Take a look on www.stagecoachgames.com. Can't get the link to work ? |
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Post by Chris on Jul 5, 2016 19:27:59 GMT
Dear Keith and All
You won't get access - sadly the website was hacked for credit cards and we are awaiting a back up in the next 72 hours if it can be salvaged as it may be condemned as being corrupt.
Well that being the bad news
This being the good news,
We will purchase a new AEBBA website from 1 and 1 which will be our domain.
We already have the domain address and will do this shortly which the AEBBA will own and pay for.
The site can be put back together quickly we / I have the original, Nigel has all the updates.
Nothing lost but time will be needed to put back together.
We will also back up ourselves in future and not rely on the site we purchase.
Thanks
Chris
Nigel is aware as the person having collated all of your works.
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Post by Chris on Jul 5, 2016 19:40:45 GMT
HELP
Whilst Nigel can load info to a website and is adding info and doing an amazing job.
We do need an IT GURU for the future to support him.
Is there any of you that can do this ?????? What I have in place at present is only temporary.
Thank you
Chris x
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 6, 2016 7:49:12 GMT
We will purchase a new AEBBA website from 1 and 1 which will be our domain. We already have the domain address and will do this shortly which the AEBBA will own and pay for. Is this the existing domain name (aebba.org.uk) currently pointing at the moribund old site? I will need to know before the current lease runs out in a few months as AEBBA have not requested me to retain it. That site ownership can still be taken over by AEBBA at any time but it must be before the renewal is needed, this was offered a year ago. Alternatively there is an offer by EasySpace for a domain name to be transferred to them and benefit from a year's free hosting (may be size constraints as the AEBBA site is massive). If any of the untampered files from the old site are of any help then AEBBA are still welcome to them as I still have backup copies but AEBBA must make sure it keeps a site backup in future as it's a five minute job to recover from a hacking attack as when it happened to me a couple of years ago. Sav. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 7, 2016 17:32:27 GMT
Hi Chris
No it is a new domain and will carry a new name Chris.
We have all of the files un-tampered off of the hacked domain.
I agree we need to back. The site was backed but this was hacked too.
We will back in future weekly.
Chris
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Post by Chris on Jul 7, 2016 21:39:38 GMT
What we do need is an IT GURU to support Nigel in the long term.
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 7, 2016 21:53:31 GMT
Hi Chris No it is a new domain and will carry a new name Chris. We have all of the files un-tampered off of the hacked domain. I agree we need to back. The site was backed but this was hacked too. We will back in future weekly. Chris Thanks Chrissie, That seems a strange decision to me when AEBBA already own the old domain name and that is referenced on many sites on the net. I'll instruct the current hosting company to terminate at the end of the current lease. Whomever is controlling the backups is not doing it properly if the backup was contaminated as well, off-site incremental backups are economical and allow rolling back to any point in time. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 15, 2016 20:20:22 GMT
Dear All
AEBBA now own a new website.
aebba.co.uk
It will not be up and running for a couple of weeks,
Purchased for three years and will be able to continue from then.
It will this time be backed externally, for three years, but I truly need someone to help other
than Nigel..... thanks
Chris
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 16, 2016 7:53:57 GMT
Well done Chrissie for driving this, you have enough to do as Treasurer already!
The old domain name will now be terminated to avoid confusion. I can add a visible generic link on Proboards when the new site is up and running
Regarding backups in addition to the hosting company backups, the safest option is for the webmaster to religiously update a backup copy of the site on his own PC (of which he should also keep backups!). Nothing can go wrong then and the webmaster can react immediately to any intrusion (after changing passwords).
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Post by jelly on Jul 16, 2016 10:06:20 GMT
Hello, if you don't know me I started playing in the Redhill league last year and I'm also a computer programmer. I am in principle willing to help with the website if you wish. Let me know if I can be of assistance. Thanks, Joe.
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Post by Chris on Jul 17, 2016 20:28:23 GMT
Dear All We have a new website www.aebba.co.uk. It is all being put back together. No not done yet. It will be backed weekly outside of the site. Take a look but it is not yet back to it's original form. Chris x |
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Post by Owners' Account on Jul 18, 2016 11:31:09 GMT
The old domain name www.aebba.org.uk has been removed as have any email addresses attached to it. |
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Post by Chris on Jul 18, 2016 17:10:25 GMT
Hi Chris
Totally agree with you, back up needed, off the site and this is being done to an iron key to ensure the site is secured.
Chris
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Post by dipper on Jul 19, 2016 16:32:41 GMT
How do you get into the All England web site???
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jul 19, 2016 17:07:46 GMT
How do you get into the All England web site??? Read through the previous ten or so posts on this page. |
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Post by dipper on Jul 21, 2016 17:49:38 GMT
The Ones I have found say server not found the other starts with 2009 rankings ??
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Post by curtd on Jul 21, 2016 18:28:39 GMT
The Ones I have found say server not found the other starts with 2009 rankings ?? The one with 2009 rankings is the new site but the rankings haven't been updated yet. If you go into the tournament menu you will see most of the opens have more up to date info. Getting all the info over is a slow process as all the old comps need to be entered manually onto a spread sheet Nigel has put together. This whole process will take some time but the team working on it will get there  Curt |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 0:07:15 GMT
AEBBA website is really coming together now as regards historical records of Opens and AEBBA Competitions. Most are up there now (bar 2016) with a covering "all-time" performance list. The latest ones to be put up by Nigel are the Four Pin and the Alternative Rules. Makes excellent reading. |
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 28, 2017 8:53:39 GMT
Excellent work being done on the stats but I feel the first priority should be to make the site look alive and update the home page.
To any casual browser the site looks moribund when you click on the opening address. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 11:01:07 GMT
Excellent work being done on the stats but I feel the first priority should be to make the site look alive and update the home page.
To any casual browser the site looks moribund when you click on the opening address. I think the plan is to use the Front End as designed by Barbelman for the original site, there was a link to that originally but I can't find it at the moment. Hopefully a simple case of restoring the link (as we know the page is compatible) and adjusting the menu family tree. A tip for all: when viewing, the site looks better and navigates better when loaded from Google Chrome rather than Firefox. Have also noted that the latest rankings are now displayed rather than those for 2009 ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 11:25:54 GMT
Also, possibly Glenn's creation barbilliards.jimdo.com/ could possibly be brought into the equation somehow to help with the "window dressing". Nigel really has his work cut out with the content, the number of files to be loaded up must be 300 or threabouts. Some of the files are incredibly large, namely the World Championships going back 30 years. The 'helpers' have been doing our bit, but our spreadsheets then have to be proof-checked and collated before load-up. |
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Post by barbelman on Jan 28, 2017 11:30:29 GMT
I think the AEBBA (or Chrissie) was in favour of a reportage type front page rather than aesthetic.
Tony
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 28, 2017 13:19:38 GMT
Whatever is decided by AEBBA, the front page should be done first and make the site look inviting, not a totally bland page with a nearly three year old news item as the header.
Far more important than preaching to the converted by updating the stats.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 15:14:55 GMT
Easy for you to criticize, but you would be amazed if you knew the true extent of how much work has been put in so far. I reckon my own effort, Sep to Dec last year, represents 640 man-hours, and Jean who has been doing all the Pairs, has probably expended even more.
Effectively we have converted the entire contents of the 64 issues of BBQ (covering the 16 years from 1991 to 2006) from paper to data input format.
This is something the former site never had.
I agree that a nice welcoming page would be adviseable, and it seems a shame not to add one especially when work has already been done on the design. Chrissie asked earlier for an IT Guru to assist with this and a volunteer did come forward although he has so far not been acknowledged.
The trouble is, any such person would need to have shared access and it would seem prudent to have all the data in place first with only one person at present responsible for input - thus restricting the site's vulnerability.
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Post by barbelman on Jan 28, 2017 15:57:43 GMT
Whatever is decided by AEBBA, the front page should be done first and make the site look inviting, not a totally bland page with a nearly three year old news item as the header. Far more important than preaching to the converted by updating the stats. Nah I disagree at this moment!  Updating the comps is a massive job (because 'updating' is a huge understatement of the project) - once is it done then the niceties can be fine-tuned. Nigel, Tommo and Jean (and others to a lesser degree.. ) have done a brilliant job of getting it where it is now with limited time available. I did a few opens myself and can appreciate what a time-consuming job it is and indeed I have a couple in my virtual "in-tray" still.... I do agree it needs a friendly and MODERN interface with the 'public' but get the hard work out of the way first. Bar billiards websites are notoriously clunky and home made but the national site does (eventually) need to look professional and informative as I am confident it will. |
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 28, 2017 18:15:07 GMT
Fully appreciate and applaud the amount of work put in, I only built, maintained and paid for the original site for a mere ten years completely on my own (data supplied by others of course).
It would not take an hour to put a few fresh sentences on the front page and a couple of pictures to make the site inviting to the non league browser and look like it is in use. You're not going to tell me that would not be time well spent.
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Post by curtd on Jan 28, 2017 18:33:11 GMT
Hi Chris
So we are all well aware how long you looked after the site and everything you did blah blah blah ......... but in those ten years I didn't think the home page looked great either ?? So what happened there then Chris ? Not enough time ? Or did you have plenty of other things to do ? Maybe just like the rest of us .
The site will be done when it's done and I'm sure most will be thankful and not pick holes whenever they get a chance.
Really not helpful Chris
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Post by Chris_Sav on Jan 28, 2017 18:55:36 GMT
Excellent work being done on the stats but I feel the first priority should be to make the site look alive and update the home page.
To any casual browser the site looks moribund when you click on the opening address. Exactly how is it critical of what's been done? |
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Post by Chris on Jan 28, 2017 20:09:19 GMT
Dear All
I have absolutely no IT skills to sort the front page. I do though have the same rights as Nigel to the site re access held as guardian but never used. For your information there are three guardians to the site who can make changes. The only user that does this is Nigel.
But we do have a member that does and has offered support some time ago. I could go back and ask him if he could help.
Nigel, Jean, Clive and Colin have done amazing works re collating old stats.
Tony Willis has a front page that can be added and I saw a great front page some time ago between I think Tony and Sav that I cannot find anymore colours were blue/green and delightful.
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